Author Topic: New Product - Marlin Crawler Vehicle Speed Sensor (Read 65018 times)

93tonkatoy · « **Reply #30 on:** Aug 06, 2007, 08:55:08 PM »

hey Mike, I have a 93 pickup 4wd 22re manual and the stock vss went out on it. I also have a 92 2wd 22re manual. I pulled both of the vss's out and the 4wd has the small gear you are showing for the gear drive t-case and the 2wd has the one shown for the chain case. I pulled them each apart and swapped the pickups from one to the other and my speedo works now but reads really high (doing 55 while showing 100). My question is this it in the works for marlin to either produce a new pickup to attach to my gear, or a whole (factory-style) unit? I know that the dealer wants > $200 for a replacement unit. I'm wondering about just the portion in the red outline.

BigMike · « **Reply #31 on:** Aug 07, 2007, 09:12:38 AM »

Well, basically, in the above picture you linked, if the gear teeth count are the same, then the same identical output will be generated by the above cable sender + Marlin VSS combo as the lower electric sender.

As far as I know, Toyota does not sell individual parts on the electric sender you have outlined. If I remember correctly, I think we used to sell brand new units for $220

So instead of doing that, you could just get a cable sender from any 1979-1992 4cyl gear drive transfer case, purchase our new VSS, and use the two in combination (as pictured above) to reproduce the signal of your original electric sender.

hunt4steve · « **Reply #32 on:** Aug 07, 2007, 09:37:16 AM »

Hey Mike, great info you have posted.

I have a '99 4Runner Limited that has the Chain drive Transfer case. My speedometer used to run off the ABS sensors, but since I have pulled all ABS sensors, I have no speedometer. My transfer case does have a cap in the tail houseing of the transfer case, where it appears a mechanical speedometer could go.

Am I reading your posts correctly; in that I will need to find a "mechanical speedometer sending unit" from any "V6 Chain Drive" transfer case, years 1988 - 2004?

I want to be sure before I put money down on a unit. Of course, I will then get your VSS unit to mate to the mechanical unit, and them massage the signal with a Dakota Digital or SuperLift speedometer tweaker.

Thanks for your help on this

Steve
Hunt4Steve@yahoo.com
http://www.hunt4steve.com

BigMike · « **Reply #33 on:** Aug 07, 2007, 10:43:13 AM »

Steve,

Yes, you are correct.

Could you please verify the size of the plugged hole on your transfer case? The chain drive mechanical cable sender in question fits a 34mm / 1.339" bore:

hunt4steve · « **Reply #34 on:** Aug 07, 2007, 10:58:02 AM »

Sure thing. I have a spare transfer case in my garage. I'll measure that one.

hunt4steve · « **Reply #35 on:** Aug 07, 2007, 11:02:37 AM »

By the way Mike, I dig your web page.

TOYJOETA · « **Reply #36 on:** Aug 08, 2007, 08:02:07 PM »

Quote from: BigMike on Aug 06, 2007, 09:15:59 AM

Your 1985 cluster most likely has an electronic output on it, but I am not 100% sure. You would need to check the wiring for the '85 system. An electronic VSS is not for everyone.

Thanks for the help BIGMIKE!!

Late
Joe

hunt4steve · « **Reply #37 on:** Aug 09, 2007, 07:47:38 PM »

Well, good news. I measured my spare transfer case tail houseing plug for the "Vehicle Speed Sensor Assembly", and it measured to 1 11/32; which equates to 1.339" bore. I'm I also found in my FSM that my transfer case comes optional with this VSSA. So, tomorrow, I'm going to order one from the stealership and see what it looks like when it comes in. Then, I should be able to get the marlin adapter and get my speedo back to working order.

hunt4steve · « **Reply #38 on:** Aug 17, 2007, 03:45:55 PM »

Quote from: BigMike on Aug 07, 2007, 10:43:13 AM

Steve,

Yes, you are correct.

Could you please verify the size of the plugged hole on your transfer case? The chain drive mechanical cable sender in question fits a 34mm / 1.339" bore:

Well, I have purchased a speed sending unit, and it doesn't look like the one above, but like the gear unit below.
According to the Dealership, Part numbers: 33404-35010 = Sleeve Sub-Assy

is for a 1990 4Runner V6 Auto with Chain drive transfer case.
For this to work correctly, you will need to also get the Gear, Part number: 33482-39135, which is just the gear unit, and slides into the above sleeve. The picture above shows both the gear and the sleeve together.

Unfortunately, I can't seem to locate a part number for the sleeve and gear shown above in Mikes Post.

Does anybody have a Toyota Part number for the Sleeve Assembly and Gear shown in Mike's Post above?

I just blew 50 bucks on the wrong part, of which I can't use.

hunt4steve · « **Reply #39 on:** Aug 25, 2007, 10:03:36 PM »

Wow, the response is overwhelming.

supremesports · « **Reply #40 on:** Oct 11, 2007, 04:13:27 AM »

Here’s my three questions :

1st : What is the total lenght of your VSS (between red lines)
2nd : Does the wire connector included or available (I don’t have a Toyota, so I don’t have the connector)
3rd : Do you have the part number or exact application of the factory speed sensor that connection goes down (The red circled part)

Thank You very very much

hunt4steve · « **Reply #41 on:** Oct 11, 2007, 11:30:25 AM »

Well, after digging through the junk yard, I found the CORRECT sensor for my '99 4Runner Limited.
Some background to this thread of mis-information:

I have a '99 4Runner Limited that uses the ABS sensors for its speed sensors. In the tail-shaft of the transfer case, I have a plug where a speed sensor would normally plug into. In looking for the correct speed sensor, I followed the information provided in this thread. Well, the informatin is incorrect. Not all V6, Chain drive transfer cases from '88 to '04, have the same speed sensor. This is absolutely incorrect.
so after posting many unanswered questions for follow up assistance, I went to the junk yard and found what I needed.

Needless to say, it appears nobody from Marlin is interested in actually getting the correct information out to the public.

I found the sensor I needed, the fat one, in a '98 4x4 Tacoma with an Automatic transmission. This sensor has the thick body like this one:

but, has the electronics already built into the speed sensor, instead of the mechanical output, as the one above shows.
There were other Tacos trannys there that did have the exact sensors as shown above. But, ya gotta look around the junk yard to find exactly what you need. I wouldn't expect any accurate information from this board on the sensors, you're gonna have to do the digging yourself. In fact, the mis-information has already cost me close to $50 bucks. I now have a brand new speed sensor and gear from the dealership I can't use.

Good luck.

4000GT · « **Reply #42 on:** Oct 19, 2007, 10:35:19 AM »

I am having trouble getting a reply to my email to marlin so I thought I would try here! Does anyone know if this will work on the R154 box from the MKIII JZA70 Supra? I am pretty sure its the right thread just looking for confirmation...

4000GT · « **Reply #43 on:** Oct 19, 2007, 02:32:23 PM »

PS it looks like the fat one in the pic above...

BigMike · « **Reply #44 on:** Oct 19, 2007, 05:08:05 PM »

hunt4steve,

I do not understand what you are implying.

As far as I know, all Toyota Hilux, 4Runner, T100, and Tundra trucks, 2WD or 4WD, have access for either a 24mm (small bore / 1979-95 gear drive t/case) or a 34mm (large bore / 1985+ chain drive) with a 22x1.50 threaded mechanical drive speedometer sending unit.

With this 24mm or 34mm bore mechanical speedometer unit installed, our Marlin Crawler Vehicle Speed Sensor will directly thread onto the male 22x1.50 thread of the mechanical speedometer sender used.

What was it that you are trying to do?

Regards,
BigMike

4000GT · « **Reply #45 on:** Oct 19, 2007, 06:32:15 PM »

Mike, will your speedo sensor screw on to the one pictured above? Thats the same as in the R154 box... i dont seem to be having any luck in the last 3 emails sent about it!

hunt4steve · « **Reply #46 on:** Oct 19, 2007, 07:06:05 PM »

Well, lets see, I've asking some questions, as noted below, and you answered them. I go to the dealership, get the parts, and guess what, they are the wrong parts. No need to imply, I'm stating it; mis-information was supplied to me.

I'm not going to get into a pissing match about who said what, its all listed above. The fact is, I took some advice and made a purchase based on that advice, and as I said before, I wasted 50 bucks.

Seems like if we want to make sure we get the right parts, we have to do the research ourselves.

kneedownnate · « **Reply #47 on:** Oct 21, 2007, 03:25:38 PM »

Quote from: hunt4steve on Oct 19, 2007, 07:06:05 PM

The fact is, I took some advice and made a purchase based on that advice, and as I said before, I wasted 50 bucks.

They won't give you your money back

I find that kinda hard to believe, did you screw it up or something?

I know we have a board member here who works parts at a toyota dealer, let me ask him about this..... be right back...

te51levin · « **Reply #48 on:** Oct 21, 2007, 04:13:15 PM »

I'm sorry Steve didn't get what he wanted the first time, but I don't see a reason to come unglued on Mike or Marlin. They are providing FREE ADVICE and working with the knowledge and information they have gathered from their own experience. It's not realistic to expect them to know every possible combination of parts that Toyota ever put together, and saying things like "I wouldn't expect any accurate information from this board" is just not constructive. Certainly if I were BigMike I wouldn't be inspired to help anyone to had just joined my board, got some incomplete information (which he paid nothing for), then immediately started bashing me, my company, and my forum.

I dunno...

It's certainly up to the dealership whether they want to accept returns on special order parts or not. Our policy is that we do not, and we expect customers to know what they need when they order it. That said, commercial customers or known good guys get better treatment than people who make demands or act as though the world owes them something, and customers with a chip on their shoulder don't get to return special order parts. Obviously, any returns we elect to accept must be resellable and in original packaging, and there is NO return on electrical parts. Maybe if he explains the situation and asks politely, the dealership will allow Steve to return the part for a refund.

4000GT · « **Reply #49 on:** Oct 21, 2007, 08:35:55 PM »

Hello?

Weak-Link · « **Reply #50 on:** Oct 21, 2007, 09:12:46 PM »

Quote from: 4000GT on Oct 21, 2007, 08:35:55 PM

Hello?

559-252-7295

Duffil · « **Reply #51 on:** Oct 21, 2007, 09:41:34 PM »

4000GT · « **Reply #52 on:** Oct 22, 2007, 12:46:05 AM »

Living up to your reputation and namesake weaklink.

Im not making an international phone call just to find the answer to the question if their screw on sensor fits the fat type as posted above for the R154 box. Thats what email and the internet is for, even though its like pulling teeth getting an answer out of them.

kneedownnate · « **Reply #53 on:** Oct 22, 2007, 12:50:02 PM »

If anybody knows off the top of their head if the two are the same, it'd be reklund5. You may try sending him a pm and see if he can help

hunt4steve · « **Reply #54 on:** Oct 22, 2007, 01:07:34 PM »

Quote from: kneedownnate on Oct 21, 2007, 03:25:38 PM

They won't give you your money back I find that kinda hard to believe, did you screw it up or something?

I know we have a board member here who works parts at a toyota dealer, let me ask him about this..... be right back...

nope. This dealership here exemplifies the term "Stealership". They told me from the start it was a non-returnable item. I never used it, still in the plastic baggie with the Toyota numbering.

Anybody need a speedo? Sell it cheap

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #55 on:** Oct 27, 2007, 06:48:47 PM »

Quote from: 4000GT on Oct 19, 2007, 06:32:15 PM

Mike, will your speedo sensor screw on to the one pictured above? Thats the same as in the R154 box... i dont seem to be having any luck in the last 3 emails sent about it!

if the r154 looks like the one above then YES it will fit

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our Marlin Crawler Vehicle Speed Sensor will directly thread onto the male 22x1.50 thread of the mechanical speedometer sender used.

93tonkatoy · « **Reply #56 on:** Oct 27, 2007, 07:32:42 PM »

hunt4steve, from what you posted in your earlier posts, after you were told by BigMike what part you needed (granted, not by toyota part number) you went to the dealership, and they told you what part you needed, and you ordered it.

Quote from: hunt4steve on Aug 17, 2007, 03:45:55 PM

Well, I have purchased a speed sending unit, and it doesn't look like the one above, but like the gear unit below.
According to the Dealership, Part numbers: 33404-35010 = Sleeve Sub-Assy

is for a 1990 4Runner V6 Auto with Chain drive transfer case.
For this to work correctly, you will need to also get the Gear, Part number: 33482-39135, which is just the gear unit, and slides into the above sleeve. The picture above shows both the gear and the sleeve together.

Unfortunately, I can't seem to locate a part number for the sleeve and gear shown above in Mikes Post.

Does anybody have a Toyota Part number for the Sleeve Assembly and Gear shown in Mike's Post above?

I just blew 50 bucks on the wrong part, of which I can't use.

That alone tells me that you are beating the wrong horse. Mike told you that you would need the 34mm sender, where to find one (year trucks), and the one that you ordered was the wrong one. If you have an arguement with anyone, it would be the parts manager at the dealership.

BigMike, thanks for the GOOD information you provide.

hunt4steve · « **Reply #57 on:** Oct 27, 2007, 10:26:16 PM »

Whatever, maybe you need to re-read the thread again.

Flipper1938 · « **Reply #58 on:** Aug 08, 2015, 02:18:36 PM »

Will this sensor fit on a 1985 FJ60 mechanical speedometer drive?

How many pulses per revolution is this sensor?

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