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Re: New Pivot Block Design
« Reply #30 on: Oct 27, 2006, 04:17:10 PM »
How high is Dim A, if it is too high it will be like using lift blocks and cause spring wrap.

Dim B is too close together and should be spread out more like Dim C to make the pivot stronger.
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Re: New Pivot Block Design
« Reply #31 on: Oct 27, 2006, 04:51:18 PM »
Dim A is the same hieght as the current design. 2"
I could lower that by cutting out the original perch and just using the pivot perch but lower.

I'm thinking about having 5 or more sections on the hinge instead of 3 to help with the shear & crush strenght. Know what I mean?

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Re: New Pivot Block Design
« Reply #32 on: Oct 27, 2006, 05:48:53 PM »
Dim A is the same hieght as the current design. 2"
I could lower that by cutting out the original perch and just using the pivot perch but lower.

I'm thinking about having 5 or more sections on the hinge instead of 3 to help with the shear & crush strenght. Know what I mean?



 :yesnod:  You may want to consider a shouldered bolt too so you can't over tighten it and pinch the hinge.  :thumbs:

In fact make the spring side longer and add an extra hinge on each end. That will definitely spread the load out.
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Re: New Pivot Block Design
« Reply #33 on: Nov 12, 2006, 02:24:56 PM »
like it lots, these should definatly be sold on ebay or simlar, i think they would sell well here in england, just a thought why not drill the bolt and fit a grease nibble so as to help with lubrication.
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Re: New Pivot Block Design
« Reply #34 on: Nov 12, 2006, 03:32:23 PM »
Grease nibble. I tried that once.....  :reg:
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Re: New Pivot Block Design
« Reply #35 on: Nov 12, 2006, 03:58:54 PM »
Radius ALL inside corners.

PM I might want to make them for you.
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Re: New Pivot Block Design
« Reply #36 on: Nov 12, 2006, 05:40:13 PM »
Mini, whats the price on the existing ones from Dave Wong?
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Re: New Pivot Block Design
« Reply #37 on: Nov 12, 2006, 08:51:43 PM »
I'm not sure, around 90 :dunno:

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Re: New Pivot Block Design
« Reply #38 on: Nov 12, 2006, 09:04:07 PM »
Have you looked into the manufacture of these things yet?
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Re: New Pivot Block Design
« Reply #39 on: Nov 13, 2006, 05:03:10 AM »
Nope, too busy with baby.

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Re: New Pivot Block Design
« Reply #40 on: Nov 13, 2006, 05:31:12 AM »
Nope, too busy with baby.

haha, just wait.... you will never have free time again ;)
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Re: New Pivot Block Design
« Reply #41 on: Nov 13, 2006, 06:09:51 AM »
Yep, he takes up a great deal of what used to be "Free time"

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Re: New Pivot Block Design
« Reply #42 on: Nov 13, 2006, 01:32:31 PM »
I was thinking of building something like those a while back. I needed a 4inch lift block but went with a drop block instead. I never got far enough to work out measurements and scale like you have, plus I think your design would be stonger with the longated lobes. But I did want to incorperate a shim in mine that could be used with standard u-bolts. The thought was that it would take most of the stress off the block during everyday use and could be easily removed when wheeling or put back in if the pivot failed.The same top hole would have been used to bolt the springs on. For what its worth here is what I had before I scraped the idea.

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Re: New Pivot Block Design
« Reply #43 on: Nov 13, 2006, 03:58:31 PM »
mad mauds secrets corner: dont worry mate babies are a realy good excuse to start building go-carts, off-roaders and the like. its a great blag to give the missis if you want to spend more time and money on toys in the garage. trust me on this me and the other half have 5 rugrats between us and it nearly always works.
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