Author Topic: Suspension opinions, Can anyone help me ??? (Read 2667 times)

Bones1 · « **on:** Jan 12, 2006, 07:26:08 PM »

Can anyone tell me what is the best suspension with the best flex to get. I have an 81 short bed, the bed is off the frame is bobbed to the rear of the shackles, it has a 1.5 tubed flat bed on it so there is not much weight back there. I am looking at both the Marlin trail flex kit and the Allpro extreme lift kit. I have read pros and cons for both. I am looking to get the whole kit including cross over steering etc. Can anyone point me in the direction for the best lift and flex package? Thanks.

OldschoolJay · « **Reply #1 on:** Jan 12, 2006, 07:55:59 PM »

put the rears up front and put some chevy's in the rear. will work great. then you can mess around with shackles. do some trimming as well in teh front and keep it low.

tt21 · « **Reply #2 on:** Jan 12, 2006, 09:16:35 PM »

Marlin marlin marlin

89 toy · « **Reply #3 on:** Jan 12, 2006, 09:33:54 PM »

89- 95 rears up front and ranger springs in the rear inboarded dont run chevys in the rear the dont flex unless you have a lot of weight in the rear. marlin kit for sure if $$$ are no problem.

GrenadedToy · « **Reply #4 on:** Jan 12, 2006, 10:11:32 PM »

toyota rears in front mixed with izuzu trooper springs. then for the rear get 63" chevies and take out the over load and other leaves if you need to. make sure the spring pack has 3 leaves. that should be soft enough to get good flex out of them without much weight in back. ive heard good stuff about mazdas in the rear, then i heard they break..

yotabj · « **Reply #5 on:** Jan 13, 2006, 07:52:51 AM »

I am running 4in marlins up front and love um with ranger springs in the back..I've have mazda springs in the rear and they worked fine as long as you run a toy overload and add about 2 to3 leaves..you said your framed was bobbed..if you run marlin or allpro spring in the rear you will have to relocate your spring hangers and you no longer have the frame to do that but you can always engineer a way to mount them
If it were me I would put 83 rears up front and mazda in the back....my brother runs the same setup with 38.5'sx14.50 sx's and he has no complaints

tj40ounce · « **Reply #6 on:** Jan 13, 2006, 09:45:38 AM »

Quote from: dig on Jan 12, 2006, 10:11:32 PM

toyota rears in front mixed with izuzu trooper springs. then for the rear get 63" chevies and take out the over load and other leaves if you need to. make sure the spring pack has 3 leaves. that should be soft enough to get good flex out of them without much weight in back. ive heard good stuff about mazdas in the rear, then i heard they break..

I think it really depends on the condition of the springs. On my 3rd gen long bed, my 3 leaf chevy springs blow. My truck is pretty light in the rear after the 13" bob job. They are really stiff and don't nearly flex like my rears up front do. The springs came off of a low rider that never hauled anything (bed had zero dents or scratches). And yes, my shackle angle, etc. is correct.

A buddy of mine with a full bodied runner runs the same spring and they are super soft. Another buddy of mine has them on his p/u and said his are really stiff. I've heard of others though that say they are really soft with their light weight rigs. If I had to do it over, I would try and run some mazda's or something a little shorter that were a little softer.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #7 on:** Jan 13, 2006, 10:24:36 AM »

Marlin

olemisstoy88 · « **Reply #8 on:** Jan 13, 2006, 11:26:26 AM »

marlin

olemisstoy88 · « **Reply #9 on:** Jan 13, 2006, 11:31:39 AM »

I have 62" deavers in the rear that give me about 5.5" of lift, they flex really well. any they can take some punishment.

yotatilla · « **Reply #10 on:** Jan 13, 2006, 11:47:24 AM »

All Pro.....

Nah, just kiddin, Marlin all the way

Shoyrtt · « **Reply #11 on:** Jan 13, 2006, 11:50:56 AM »

You obviously will receive a biased opinion on the subject on this site [including me

] but let me tell you a little story. Last night, we compared my freshly built 4 Runner (Marlin Trail Flex kit) with my friend's All Pro 4 Runner. These words came from my friend's mouth after looking at the springs: "Wow, the quality of Marlin's stuff is much better than All Pro."

toynizzy · « **Reply #12 on:** Jan 13, 2006, 01:33:43 PM »

well u cant ask that question on this board and not expect some kinda wise answer,just the nature of the beast,i am also in the market for the same thing as u and i will buy marlin's kit.better quality equipment and way way way better customer support and warranty,plus help on things they dont even have a thing to do with lol but thats just my dumb ass answer lol

yotatilla · « **Reply #13 on:** Jan 13, 2006, 01:37:30 PM »

I am not partial really, but I have built both kits. We put an All Pro kit on a 91 xcab, front and rear lift, and we put a Marlin on an 88 4runner. I have experience installing both, and I will give an honest and impartial opinion. Marlin's kit was easier to install, and it showed up quicker. The Marlin kit flexes better, and the All Pro kit flexes OK, but the rear was too stiff. The ride quality is better with Marlin, that I know for sure. Both trucks went to Paragon last year and I enjoyed the 4runner much better. I am going to try Sky's kit with mine, just to get the best of all worlds. For a third opinion, check there too.

Sam

KWP · « **Reply #14 on:** Jan 13, 2006, 04:20:12 PM »

Besides the

kit, your other alternative would be home brew springs. If you have fairly good fab skills and a little time for fine tuning you could build a suspension as good or better than whats's on the market

Bones1 · « **Reply #15 on:** Jan 13, 2006, 05:02:57 PM »

Yea I know I should have expected the smart ass comments for asking about another product on this board. I could take the time and make my own springs but the fact of the matter is I really dont want to. The Ol' lady gave me the go ahead and spend the money so I figured I better do it before she changes her mind you know what I mean. I really do appreciate all the input...

Techtafab · « **Reply #16 on:** Jan 13, 2006, 05:21:14 PM »

coils 4 link !!

KWP · « **Reply #17 on:** Jan 13, 2006, 05:32:01 PM »

Quote from: Bones1 on Jan 13, 2006, 05:02:57 PM

Yea I know I should have expected the smart ass comments for asking about another product on this board. I could take the time and make my own springs but the fact of the matter is I really dont want to. The Ol' lady gave me the go ahead and spend the money so I figured I better do it before she changes her mind you know what I mean. I really do appreciate all the input...

You really can't go wrong with the Marlin trail flex kit. I have heard nothing but good about it, All Poo on the other hand

whiteman · « **Reply #18 on:** Jan 13, 2006, 05:38:42 PM »

Bones1, hey man; I have never ran the Marlin or the All Pro springs. But from what I know as far as what is said not only on this board but on pirate4x4 as well, Marlin springs are what you want.

I hear time and time again that Marlin has excellent quality springs. Even from people who have had All Pro.

Now I am going to eat crow on this one because if you look at my build up thread i am building my own spring packs. But that is more a money issue than anything. I just cant afford the Marlin springs let alone the All Pro springs.

Can you get more flex out of a custom spring pack? Sure, but you may not have the ride quality or reliability that Marlins can provide.

I would defiantly recommend the Marlins. And please, don't let others give you the Idea that we don't respect All Pro. I have had an ass chewing before, for talking

about All Pro. On this board.

Good luck on your decision and hopfully we wont have any discrepancy on this topic which at most times is inevitable.

kneedownnate · « **Reply #19 on:** Jan 13, 2006, 06:30:28 PM »

If you've already bobbed that far I don't think you can run chevies. I'd go rears up front and start measuring some rigs at the junk yard for the rears, you might be able to pull off some ford 2wd rears, but even those might be too long.

SolidAxle · « **Reply #20 on:** Jan 13, 2006, 06:51:07 PM »

if you are thinking about asking this on another board I'll be the first to say don't post it on pirate or they will

you

yotatilla · « **Reply #21 on:** Jan 14, 2006, 08:58:39 AM »

Quote from: 4runner666 on Jan 13, 2006, 06:51:07 PM

if you are thinking about asking this on another board I'll be the first to say don't post it on pirate or they will you

And that's why I don't post anything on Pirate. Great research place, you can find anything if you search, but I refuse to post after what some people over there have done. They are just jerks for no reason. Search Pirate and can find anything.

Sam

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