your the man!!!!! things are much clearer now. Ill do that then I can Just save some money for other things I need to do to get this thing running. ive collected so many parts I need time to install them all. I cant wait to start my build up thread. its going to be slow. but I think cool for a beginer. im not doing anything ive not seen done already but I plan on dooing good writeups for everything so other newbies can learn off of what I do. thanks again for the help.