Author Topic: sas axle what parts do i need for the axle (Read 6158 times)

Michael Wollinsky · « **on:** Jul 18, 2011, 09:42:02 PM »

I have the housing from a 85 it came with axles and birfs I have a third what else do I need I know knuckles but I'm lost
after that

Crawlin85 · « **Reply #1 on:** Jul 18, 2011, 10:33:47 PM »

if the knuckles have spindles already all you need are hubs, new seals, and bearings

Michael Wollinsky · « **Reply #2 on:** Jul 19, 2011, 09:45:05 AM »

Can I use any of the parts off my ifs? hubs?

Peterbuilt84 · « **Reply #3 on:** Jul 19, 2011, 09:48:08 AM »

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=775780

Michael Wollinsky · « **Reply #4 on:** Jul 19, 2011, 12:24:28 PM »

I searched and I couldn't find anything the the one one pirate I needed wouldn't work

Michael Wollinsky · « **Reply #5 on:** Jul 19, 2011, 05:52:00 PM »

No one knows what parts are interchangeable?

Crawlin85 · « **Reply #6 on:** Jul 20, 2011, 09:11:46 PM »

yes you can use the IFS hubs to make front axle 3inches widers. i didnt know if you had auto or manual but use manual. pretty sure those are the only interchangable parts

Michael Wollinsky · « **Reply #7 on:** Jul 20, 2011, 10:01:41 PM »

So I would need the knuckle and spindle and just use my manual hubs?

Crawlin85 · « **Reply #8 on:** Jul 20, 2011, 10:07:43 PM »

affirmative

Sparkplug · « **Reply #9 on:** Jul 20, 2011, 10:08:27 PM »

Quote from: ol blue on Jul 20, 2011, 10:01:41 PM

So I would need the knuckle and spindle and just use my manual hubs?

No the wheel hub from ifs will swap over, with mods, not the locking hub, Search ifs hub mod on here and pirate.

Sparkplug · « **Reply #10 on:** Jul 20, 2011, 10:11:02 PM »

Quote from: Crawlin85 on Jul 20, 2011, 10:07:43 PM

affirmative

Wrong, sorry, im not a mod, but please dont post stuff unless your pretty well informed, or have seen it work, thats how misinformation gets spread

He would have to swap a solid axle hub gear into his ifs lock hub bodies for them to even fit over his birf, which would be a waste of time

Crawlin85 · « **Reply #11 on:** Jul 20, 2011, 10:13:54 PM »

make sure knuckles have the trunnion bearing caps and to shim them properly. get hardened studs for the steering arms so you dont rip em out on the trail. their 9 bucks a piece from trailgear, i dont know if anyone else makes em

Crawlin85 · « **Reply #12 on:** Jul 20, 2011, 10:15:53 PM »

my neighbors got a IFS hub and all he said he had to do was reposition the caliper to the other side of the mount and through bolt it

Sparkplug · « **Reply #13 on:** Jul 20, 2011, 10:26:14 PM »

Quote from: Crawlin85 on Jul 20, 2011, 10:15:53 PM

my neighbors got a IFS hub and all he said he had to do was reposition the caliper to the other side of the mount and through bolt it

Yeah he has a ifs WHEEL hub, and a fj60 rotor with fj60 studs, and he had to grind his calipers, and drill holes in his knuckles. And he STILL is using a solid axle hub body, or a ifs one with a sa hub gear

Im not trying to be rude at all, just letting you know

Crawlin85 · « **Reply #14 on:** Jul 20, 2011, 10:45:57 PM »

why not use a ifs rotor and caliper and skip all that bs?

Crawlin85 · « **Reply #15 on:** Jul 20, 2011, 11:05:28 PM »

Quote from: Sparkplug on Jul 20, 2011, 10:11:02 PM

Wrong, sorry, im not a mod, but please dont post stuff unless your pretty well informed, or have seen it work, thats how misinformation gets spread

He would have to swap a solid axle hub gear into his ifs lock hub bodies for them to even fit over his birf, which would be a waste of time

And apparently im more informed than you, Im running 86 toy ifs front discs and calipers on my 85 SA with 85 hubs and they bolted up just fine, no drilling or grinding needed. I just need to swap my 85 inner hub with the 86 inner i have laying around and ill be able to throw my spacers away. and reposition the caliper to the other side of the mount and through bolt it... where ever you got your info was from someone that did it the hardway

Michael Wollinsky · « **Reply #16 on:** Jul 21, 2011, 01:17:36 PM »

So I would need to rebuild my hubs could I use my rotors and calpiers

Sparkplug · « **Reply #17 on:** Jul 21, 2011, 01:43:20 PM »

Wow, this crawln guy. A toy axle consists of a HUB DIAL, HUB BODY, AND A WHEEL HUB. 3 different terms for 3 different parts.

Yes you can bolt a ifs rotor and caliper onto a solid axle sure, Better brakes. Thats not a ifs hub body or wheel hub on the solid axle.

Ol blue To put your axle together, stock way, without modding it or drilling, or swapping a SOLID AXLE HUB GEAR into you IFS HUB BODIES, Get the knuckles, spindles, wheel hubs and hub bodies from a solid axle truck. You CAN re use the hub dial from your ifs, also the calipers.

If you cannot find a solid axle hub body, you can order the longfield hub gear, and put it into your ifs hub body, but this will not allow youi to get the c clip on the end of your birf, without machining.

Michael Wollinsky · « **Reply #18 on:** Jul 21, 2011, 06:40:56 PM »

So just find a set of hubs off a solid axle spindles and knuckles?

Peterbuilt84 · « **Reply #19 on:** Jul 21, 2011, 06:50:00 PM »

This should help....

Edit: Look at this too > http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=8872.0

junya92toy · « **Reply #20 on:** Jul 21, 2011, 08:49:24 PM »

97? must be a UK manual

Crawlin85 · « **Reply #21 on:** Aug 10, 2011, 01:41:06 PM »

Quote from: Sparkplug on Jul 21, 2011, 01:43:20 PM

Wow, this crawln guy. A toy axle consists of a HUB DIAL, HUB BODY, AND A WHEEL HUB. 3 different terms for 3 different parts.

Yes you can bolt a ifs rotor and caliper onto a solid axle sure, Better brakes. Thats not a ifs hub body or wheel hub on the solid axle.

Ol blue To put your axle together, stock way, without modding it or drilling, or swapping a SOLID AXLE HUB GEAR into you IFS HUB BODIES, Get the knuckles, spindles, wheel hubs and hub bodies from a solid axle truck. You CAN re use the hub dial from your ifs, also the calipers.

If you cannot find a solid axle hub body, you can order the longfield hub gear, and put it into your ifs hub body, but this will not allow youi to get the c clip on the end of your birf, without machining.

good job, said what i said with more detail...

Crawlin85 · « **Reply #22 on:** Aug 10, 2011, 01:55:33 PM »

Quote from: Sparkplug on Jul 20, 2011, 10:26:14 PM

Yeah he has a ifs WHEEL hub, and a fj60 rotor with fj60 studs, and he had to grind his calipers, and drill holes in his knuckles. And he STILL is using a solid axle hub body, or a ifs one with a sa hub gear

Im not trying to be rude at all, just letting you know

why grind calipers, why would you drill holes into the knuckle? and why fj60 studs?

dirtybird · « **Reply #23 on:** Aug 12, 2011, 11:25:13 PM »

Quote from: Crawlin85 on Jul 20, 2011, 10:45:57 PM

why not use a ifs rotor and caliper and skip all that bs?

i think you can but that is just upgrading the brakes. purpose of IFS set up is so you end up with a wider axle so no need to use wheel spacers i think

dirtybird · « **Reply #24 on:** Aug 12, 2011, 11:26:24 PM »

Quote from: Crawlin85 on Aug 10, 2011, 01:55:33 PM

why grind calipers, why would you drill holes into the knuckle? and why fj60 studs?

google brake upgrade for toyota straight axle or ifs hubs on straight axle

Crawlin85 · « **Reply #25 on:** Aug 13, 2011, 04:15:45 PM »

Quote from: dirtybird on Aug 12, 2011, 11:26:24 PM

google brake upgrade for toyota straight axle or ifs hubs on straight axle

Is that only when you eliminate the wheel spacers? Im running the vented rotors and 86 calipers but still have the wheel spacers. but i never had to grind any calipers. just curious, I was gonna widen the front end without the spacers but after looking at the kits online it seems to pricy and the only reason to do it is to be able to use ifs hubs since solid axle hubs are harder to come by

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