Topic: Yota front axl built for jumps.

[4x4DemonWithin]

Just getting my foot in the door here on the forums and just starting to acquire all the goodies to do my first solid axl swap.
i have an 88 4runner that i love to jump here and there and the A arms take it quit nicely, all stock on 31x10.50's.
had an 80 hilux traded it but kept the leafs and front axl for my SAS. i keep hearing not to jump them axl's cuz they are thin and notorious for bending but ive seen other wise.

would like to here of personal set ups and jumping experiences with first gen straight axls.
and a good list of do and donts to prep the axl.
 Upper Axle Reinforcement Gusset
the knuckle gusset thingy
i want to run high steer but i might go cross over if its a better choice for my build.
i would like to build it the right way from the get go. no going back and replacing things that didnt work out.
Build it, wheel it, add to the build
also info on wheel spacers, would like to stay away from them but dont know the pros or cons of them<---can they work on a truck that loves hangtime???
or alternative means of making it the same width as rear?
can i run with different widths?

just looking to get some info.  happy wheelin'

[motormouth559]

well u can jump it once and that would be about it  they aint made for jumps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebnFLEea9SE   

[Dr Phat]

You can bend a stock housing just playing on rocks yet alone jumping it.

And yes you can put all the time and energy to change axles tubes, re-enforce everything, and the whole 9 yards. But at that rate you might as well grab a D60 or 14 bolt.

[91 ex-cab]

Anyone ever look into the strength increase from adding a truss?

[Dr Phat]

What trussing a Yota housing? Plenty of people do it. Mine is trussed and I havent even wheeled it haha.

[superyota]

why do you want to do a sas if your jumping it? if you want to set it up for jumping, ifs is the way to go.  if your rock crawling-sas.  I had 42's on my 85 toyota pickup when I was in high school.  i jumped the daylights out of it at the beach almost everyday after school.  i never could figure out why I couldn't get a third member to last more than 4 months.  it was because of a bent housing and axles that were wiping out the bearings.  finally swapped it all out for straight housings and axles and never jumped it again.  just my  

[Dr Phat]

IFS Mid/Long Travel build would be awesome.

[91 ex-cab]

What trussing a Yota housing? Plenty of people do it. Mine is trussed and I havent even wheeled it haha.

Yea no  plenty of people do it. I was asking if anyone knew the strength gain it gives. Because I honestly don't see it being a whole lot.

[Peterbuilt84]

If you want to jump a toyota solid axle I would get a custom housing. Ifs would still be better for jumps though.

[4x4DemonWithin [OP]]

any one run Blazelands LT set up?  any pics vids of his stuff?
i would like to go to that but was just thinking SAS cuz im sitting on the axl and leafs for it.

[4x4DemonWithin [OP]]

If you want to jump a toyota solid axle I would get a custom housing. Ifs would still be better for jumps though.

  ya i was looking at the i believe rock assault full width housing. but just dont got the money for that.

[4x4DemonWithin [OP]]

IFS Mid/Long Travel build would be awesome.

 
i would love to run Total Chaos setup but no cash for that.  looking at blazelands LT set up looks like thats what ill end up with.

[4x4DemonWithin [OP]]

well u can jump it once and that would be about it   they aint made for jumps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebnFLEea9SE    

             http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luYxmkR9jq4&feature=related     thats stock suspension  on both vids i believe.

[91 ex-cab]

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luYxmkR9jq4&feature=related     thats stock suspension  on both vids i believe.

I don't think the frame liked that.

[toyotech]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vAdRvKBGNk

heard good things about Blazelands LT. how high of a jump you plan on doing. might be better picking up a newer taco prerunner and LT that instead

i wanna say this is pismo joe on yotatech. i see a better picture of his jumps. looks fun

[4x4DemonWithin [OP]]

i am going blazeland!  will be setting up build thread shortly!
his price has almost doubled since the last time i looked at it....
lol now got a bunch of crap to sell to fund LT

normally i clear 3-4 feet all four tires vert.  all soft smooth landings so far.

[4x4DemonWithin [OP]]

any info on going coil over so i dont have to run t bars?  a build thread link would be sweet.

[toyotech]

any info on going coil over so i dont have to run t bars?  a build thread link would be sweet.

most of the set ups i see have both t bars and coil
again from yotatech.

http://www.yotatech.com/f199/cr-ves4wheelins-1991-hilux-build-up-thread-215160/index4.html

[4x4DemonWithin [OP]]

in that pic could you run that set up with out the t bars?  i think thats blazelands set up if im not mistaken in the pic.

[toyotech]

in that pic could you run that set up with out the t bars?  i think thats blazelands set up if im not mistaken in the pic.

that is blazelands set up. its not mine but a members on yotatech. i guess you could run it without the tbars if you set it up correctly with the correct shocks and springs. best person before you buy anything is talk to blazelands. tell them your plans and im sure they can point you in the right direction . look forward to your build and videos of jumps

[4x4DemonWithin [OP]]

read up on that build you posted and he runs with out the T bars.  looks like thats the route im going to take thanks for the posts!  cant wait to get some wheelin in 

[jimbo74]

if it were me, i wouldn't try and modify the stock ifs setup.... i would go all the way and long travel it.... probably with camburg or donahoe or total chaos

[toyotech]

read up on that build you posted and he runs with out the T bars.  looks like thats the route im going to take thanks for the posts!  cant wait to get some wheelin in 

cool. cant wait to see the build pix

[smacaulay]

Just to throw out another option, you might want to consider an fj80 front....with no modifications they are very strong.

Housing is much beefier, knuckle balls stronger, massive birfs, no wheel spacers needed (much wider than mini truck front),and still fairly light weight for jumping/go fast stuff.

Steering is the worst part.  Create your own with abs knuckles, or pricey high steer options. 

[4x4DemonWithin [OP]]

ya a buddy of mine is just now swaping over to that axl. ill see how well it holds up and how he likes it. ima start saving and selling so when i hit a decent amount of cash im goin either Blazeland LT or fj80. ya and setting up the steering was the only issue he was sayin, think he was going for full hydro.   for now ima wheel stock IFS as usual and keep having a blast as always.

[funnrunner51]

i would check out dezertrangers.com or race-dezert.com, you can find used total chaos kits pretty cheap and then have the benefit of chromoly a arms and more travel. the blazeland kit is good for the price but you still need a higher spring rate torsion bar or coil overs, shock hoops, t100 axles, and you only get 12" metal to metal, ad bumps and that's 10 to 11". my total chaos kit is pulling 12" bump to bump, i can get 13" if i grind out my in cv cups and move my bumps. either way you go i would get the total chaos lower a arm brace or it will bend the mounting point at the rear lower a arm mount, and get there idler arm, the stock ones don't hold up with the extra length and leverage. check out JD fabrication also they sell a pretty nice kit. I am really surprised that more company's haven't built kits for these trucks since its actually a better platform then the tacomas.

[4x4DemonWithin [OP]]

thnx 4 the info.

[theslayer85]

Total chaos makes a kit that eliminates the torsion bars and uses coils but like you said it is pricy. When I was looking into it a while ago it was over $3000. Peterson 4 wheel drive magazine built an 86 Toyota truck with a total chaos kit and ran 37's and would rock crawl with it too. It is a nice kit but I know in my case cost three times what the truck does.

[banana81]

poor yota and driver. that had to hurt. but I do have to say she sure got some air.