Author Topic: strong front end? (Read 3521 times)

Espi · « **on:** Jan 09, 2005, 06:35:42 PM »

Can the front end(axle) support the weight of 5 liter 4 cylinder turbo diesel engine?
I did the SAS with a 85 front axle, 4340 chromoly inners & pro fields w/ 35" tires.
I think the engine weighs 750 lbs.

Do ya think the engine would fit in the engine compartment???

How about an adapter for thr tranny??

thanks,

Pablo

Willy Mammoth · « **Reply #1 on:** Jan 09, 2005, 06:41:47 PM »

750 lbs is a bit much for even the rear. That would make for a heavy rig. You want more power with less weight.

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #2 on:** Jan 09, 2005, 06:44:00 PM »

Yup thats not the ideal cantidate for an engine swap. While the numbers are pretty dang good the weight would kill the whole deal.

Espi · « **Reply #3 on:** Jan 09, 2005, 07:50:40 PM »

Thanks for the advice

Pablo

FRORFab · « **Reply #4 on:** Jan 15, 2005, 10:47:06 AM »

Quote from: Espi on Jan 09, 2005, 06:35:42 PM

Can the front end(axle) support the weight of 5 liter 4 cylinder turbo diesel engine?
I did the SAS with a 85 front axle, 4340 chromoly inners & pro fields w/ 35" tires.
I think the engine weighs 750 lbs.

Do ya think the engine would fit in the engine compartment???

How about an adapter for thr tranny??

thanks,

Pablo

There was in 84/85 a 2lt turbo diesel, in the 4wd longbeds. Rare but existed. It was a 2.2L I belive. A 5 liter sounds like was too much. Even the 2lt made 3" springs into 1.5-2" springs pretty quick.

kyle_22r · « **Reply #5 on:** Jan 15, 2005, 10:31:10 PM »

nah, 2L is a 2.4 liter motor, the 1L is a 2.2

Hyena · « **Reply #6 on:** Jan 18, 2005, 08:47:47 PM »

Wouldn't think the Pro-fields would hold up to it. They don't seem to hold up to the squrral power of toys.

ezthere · « **Reply #7 on:** Jan 20, 2005, 03:31:06 PM »

Go with what works....4.3L V6 chevy..tons of them around. V8 would be better...I did mine with a v6..

Please see rig galley link ...click on rolled 85 4runner...lots of pics...

88runner · « **Reply #8 on:** Jan 20, 2005, 04:04:47 PM »

Quote from: Espi on Jan 09, 2005, 06:35:42 PM

pro fields

there is the

mr4x42u · « **Reply #9 on:** Jan 20, 2005, 10:24:09 PM »

check with a guy who is I think on this board,,and on pirate..Goes by dieseltoy..he is in oregon and has a sweet toyota turbo diesel in his 84 runner,,Just an awesome rig and it kicks ass..You could also do a search for bio diesel and maybe find him.I'll look around and look for his e-mail.I had it at one time,,He has a web site with a build up of his rig..

dieseltoy · « **Reply #10 on:** Apr 13, 2005, 12:05:16 PM »

Hi guys,

The site is clean4x4.com

as far as the difference in weight, I doubt that the 2L2T (2446cc) is more than 100lbs heavier than a 22re.

here is a pic

alwayzbroken · « **Reply #11 on:** Apr 13, 2005, 12:13:09 PM »

Run fullsize axles and the big diesel. You could get a set of 1 ton axles (Dana 60 and 14bolt) and weld them for less than the price of built up toy axles and lockers and you would never have to worry about breakage as much as with toy axles.

mr4x42u · « **Reply #12 on:** Apr 13, 2005, 04:19:32 PM »

you guys are kill'n me with words like ,,full size and big diesel and v-8,,I'm about to piss my pants,,thats funny

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oddball · « **Reply #13 on:** Apr 14, 2005, 07:02:44 PM »

What the hell is a 5.0 litre diesel 4 banger from? The only one I know of close to that is the Isuzu NPR motor

CTENG in KS · « **Reply #14 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 07:03:30 AM »

Quote from: alwayzbroken on Apr 13, 2005, 12:13:09 PM

Run fullsize axles and the big diesel. You could get a set of 1 ton axles (Dana 60 and 14bolt) and weld them for less than the price of built up toy axles and lockers and you would never have to worry about breakage as much as with toy axles.

Jeebus... for all that you could just go get a 3500 std cab with the 6.2 or 6.5 and chop the body...good lord!

4DEES · « **Reply #15 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 08:00:52 AM »

Quote from: alwayzbroken on Apr 13, 2005, 12:13:09 PM

Run fullsize axles and the big diesel. You could get a set of 1 ton axles (Dana 60 and 14bolt) and weld them for less than the price of built up toy axles and lockers and you would never have to worry about breakage as much as with toy axles.

where is this at? around here a dana 60 front runs like $1200

Bazzi · « **Reply #16 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 09:42:46 AM »

I am running the 2,4 turbo diesel works fine... and there are a lot of 4runners with the 3,0 diesel and the 3,3 izuzu diesel motor here in Iceland

alwayzbroken · « **Reply #17 on:** Apr 15, 2005, 08:43:10 PM »

Friends of mine have Dana 60's and 14bolts laying in their backyards for 1000$ a set. Gears and a detroit locker alone for a toyota will cost almost a 1000$. You will be way over a 1200$ once you add the 30 spline longs to get the strength of a dana 60, and you will still be limited by the 8" ring gear. I see alot of sweet rigs on this bulletin board and out owning the trail with fullsize axles. Why are the words "fullsize" and "bigmotor" so hated? Don't you guys like the ultimate strength of the dana 60 and the massive torque that the engine would produce in a toyota?

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #18 on:** Apr 17, 2005, 09:17:14 AM »

Quote from: alwayzbroken on Apr 15, 2005, 08:43:10 PM

Friends of mine have Dana 60's and 14bolts laying in their backyards for 1000$ a set. Gears and a detroit locker alone for a toyota will cost almost a 1000$. You will be way over a 1200$ once you add the 30 spline longs to get the strength of a dana 60, and you will still be limited by the 8" ring gear. Why are the words "fullsize" and "bigmotor" so hated? Don't you guys like the ultimate strength of the dana 60 and the massive torque that the engine would produce in a toyota?

and yet his handle is alwayzbroken

hey dieseltoy where can i get a 2l turbo

Hyena · « **Reply #19 on:** Apr 17, 2005, 03:20:59 PM »

You would still need to gear the dana 60's, that isn't cheap either. Steering for the dana 60 is more then the high steer of a toyota axle. If you do fullsizes then you could have the cops on you. dana 60's wouldn't be great for a dd. You would also have to do something about the drivelines bolting up to the t-case. You gotta think about all this crap when you switch to full size.

Duffil · « **Reply #20 on:** Apr 17, 2005, 08:44:57 PM »

i don't know about you guys, but I love telling people that my yota ACTUALLY USES TOYOTA AXLES!!!!!!

I'd rather spend the money and ARB front and rear than sleeper out my truck to Dana axles(even if they do make Toyota axles now...)

Duffil · « **Reply #21 on:** Apr 17, 2005, 08:46:44 PM »

I meant to included GM axles in that rant also. Sorry.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #22 on:** Apr 18, 2005, 05:39:21 PM »

Quote from: Duffil on Apr 17, 2005, 08:44:57 PM

i don't know about you guys, but I love telling people that my yota ACTUALLY USES TOYOTA AXLES!!!!!!

I'd rather spend the money and ARB front and rear than sleeper out my truck to Dana axles(even if they do make Toyota axles now...)

yep my truck is 100% toyota, dont ask important questions like what year what part is, it might get to technical

Espi [OP]

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