What now Cali?

[46&2]

This is how I think we should divide CA, a la State of Jefferson. However much of OR wants to join up north can glady break off of OR with us. The red line is the preffered cut off point, but the blue line would also work for me. 



I love everything about living in California expect the politics. That and the high cost of living, but I've never really had it any other way so I'm used to it. I would like to see the state split. Let SF and LA run THEIR state into the ground. Nor Cal has everything it needs to be self-sufficient, including a majority of people with that kind of mindset. I spent a lot of time traveling up and down California in my last job, and So Cal and Nor Cal really are two different states in my eyes.

[abnormaltoy]

I would visit Norcal.

[Stocker]

I think every Californian, on the right, that wants to get out...should get together with his like minded neighbors and head east.

Or north... as a fifth-generation native-born Oregonian, I reserve the right to go back home if I wish.  


fortysixandtwo, here's a map -- but we'll make an exception for ya.  

[abnormaltoy]

Or north... as a fifth-generation native-born Oregonian, I reserve the right to go back home if I wish.  


fortysixandtwo, here's a map -- but we'll make an exception for ya.  

Stocker...I've always loved the Maggie quote. The second one sounds like a take off on a Ronaldus quote...who is it attributed too?

[46&2]

Or north... as a fifth-generation native-born Oregonian, I reserve the right to go back home if I wish.  


fortysixandtwo, here's a map -- but we'll make an exception for ya.  

I think my version is better. We can't let So Cal have the Rubicon and Fordyce...

[abnormaltoy]

I think my version is better. We can't let So Cal have the Rubicon and Fordyce...

I would cast my vote for a modified State of Jefferson...dude.

[Stocker]

Stocker...I've always loved the Maggie quote. The second one sounds like a take off on a Ronaldus quote...who is it attributed too?

I really don't know.....  how embarrassing.

[abnormaltoy]

I just looked it up...it is attributed to Larry Kersten.

It sounds like it's from a "demotivational" type series.

"Cluelessness - There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots."

Another;

"CONSULTING: If you're not a part of the solution, there's good money to be made in prolonging the problem."

A take on Nietzsche's famous quote;

"Adversity - That which does not kill me postpones the inevitable."

[66cobra]

bottom line cali has great places but it is overcrowded and over taxed the state is a  like its own country. too many do-gooders and arrogance .i lived there 37 years i got the f out of there when the market peaked in 05 took my money and didn't look back they deserve pelosi but not the rest of except for the north east.no offense to the good people there

[kneedownnate]

I think my version is better. We can't let So Cal have the Rubicon and Fordyce...

Stocker's not into that stuff, but it wouldn't take much nudging to get him to understand and agree 

[Stocker]

That's true. There are at least a couple different maps for a proposed State of Jefferson. The general idea (which has been around a long time) is to create a state independent of the geopolitical powerhouses of central & southern California and of northwestern Oregon.

[Rocksurfer]

So what do you get for leaving and then being stupid enough to go back?