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Depends on what tire size and what engine you are running. I have the Marlin um-07 and beat them pretty good, never let me down. If you wheel HARD get the Longs. D44 joints are pretty weak IMHO in the rocks. Look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYMx_FyQwp8
I will be upgrading to bobbys 300m joints for my 44
You will not be disappointedHis chromo hub gears are pretty stout as well, just sayin
and you need to have the hub gears for the warrenty to play through!
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