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So.let take it to the LARGEST OFFROAD WEBSITE then!!then everyone can talk there since not ALL Pirate members are on here..What do you say then? Shall I start the talk and response on there?...Give me the word and I'll link it to here....
Got me thinking.........Everyone should just call it quits about one another before everything gets out of hand. ie (like that Rear Output Shaft that stirred up on PIRATE4x4, for the ones who doesn't follow......)Although no Names are mentioned, for the smart ones, we know who i targets when advertised specifically...
Any time negative press is directed at trail gear on Pirate camo and drm come to the rescue and start threatening people of being banned. Ask 4rnrrick if pirate is biased to Trail-Gear.
Bazzi Hope I didn't come off to strong, maybe I mis read your post.
Thanks Pumba4x4. You know it's funny that after this TECH ARTICLE got deleted from Pirates for the 3rd time by Camo, all of a sudden out of no where this same competitor suddenly announced their bumpers are made out of a different grade of DOM material.This is very interesting for the following two reasons:It takes at least a month for them to get new bumpers in stock (since the material is sourced from overseas and arrives on a boat)The material they "claim" to be using is both highly uncommon and in fact is not obtainable from our Fresno metal yards, not any of them.The material they "claim" to be using has a very high carbon content making it more brittle.No engineer I know would want to run a brittle bumper and I wouldn't advise anyone to use one for the very same reason.BigMike
what is the carbon content of theirs?
Carbon steels and alloy steels are designated by a four digit number, where the first digit indicates the main alloying element(s), the second digit indicates the secondary alloying element(s), and the last two digits indicate the amount of carbon, in hundredths of a percent by weight. For example, a 1060 steel is a plain-carbon steel containing 0.60 wt% C.
"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."-Thomas Jefferson
Just for those that don't know, here's a exert from Wikipedia. Original article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAE_steel_grades
Sharon-It is odd how society sees things. Let's say a guy sleeps with all these girls, "he's the man!" or a stud but if a girl does, she's a total very *friendly* person or sleeper. Is society sexist?
Brandon-Well think about it this way. If a key can open a bunch of locks, it is viewed as a master key and is awesome to have but if a lock is opened by a lot of different keys, well thats a pretty shitty lock if you ask me.
Never knew what the numbers mean, thanks! Also not all USA steel is better than other countries. James
If they are really running a 1035 material, then it is supposed to be between 32 and 38% carbon. I emphasize supposed because the problem with cheap, non-USA metal is that you never know what you are getting. In their defense, they might have a shipment of 1035 steel that only has 25% carbon, which wouldn't split as easily. But then again on the flip-side they could get 1035 steel that has 45% carbon content I don't have to be coy about it because this is a known industry fact: They never know what they are buying when it's that cheap, the consistency isn't there! I would bet that when I did this test and presented the data, this upset them greatly and they just opened up a book, ran their finger down some table, and said "okay, let's just say we are using that one!"
In China it can contain as little as 5% 1020 steel, and the filler materials can vary quite a bit
Mike, you've done a great job and I agree with everything you have said up to this point, except what I have highlighted in red. It's not incorrect, but it's not accurate either. IMHO, there is very high consistantcy within a production batch from China, but each batch (or "run") might not be the same as the last.
i would have to say it did what it was suppose to do. it looks like you dropped off a huge ledge? iam guessing and if you didnt have something there you would be searching for a new rear section there kid
Well, they need to look at it this way, its easier to place the bumper then the rear section of the runner!
Right on!!!People need to realize that when one object collides with another, physics say that something MUST absorb the energy of that impact!! In the case of a bumper attached to the frame of a truck, it's the bumper's job to absorb that energy, if the bumper is so strong that it does not absorb the energy, it will transmit that energy to it's mounting point (your frame) and then guess what happens... that's right your frame absorbs that energy and gets bent up. Of the three things that can get messed up from an impact (bumper - body - frame) I'd much rather the bumper give some, even to the point of rubbing the body, than my frame giving, because, and trust me on this one, when the frame gives, it's taking some body with it too, and then you wind up with a bumper that held up, but now you have frame AND body to fix. All because you wanted a bumper that would not bend under any circumstances.In summary, a really strong bumper is great, but it still needs to bend if it takes a hard enough lick.
Seeing as there's a reciever built into it, the center section should be very strong. Not knowing what kind of impact that had, I still have to lean toward it not being strong enough. Probably should be something along the lines of center support
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