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1980 toyota
« on: Jul 12, 2009, 02:46:39 PM »
after cutting welding and hammering the :pokinit: out of some metel i think i found a fine working machine.  so i have the 5" marlin lift. i ended making custom 6" EtoE boomerang shackles for the front and 4.5" shackles in the rear.  i modded the rear springs by removing the base and third from bottom leafs.  it rides more level and has great stability.  i ended up going with the 14" 5125's up front while sticking with the 12" 5150 in the rear.  

next up i think i might move to 5" shackles in the rear but i will see how the new modded springs break in.  i might have to go and add a leaf :dunno: we'll see.

in the pictures ween i still have a hair of flex left in her but still have to change the shackles in the rear and upfront do somethin about the 14" shocks bottoming out before the bump stops hit, still have about 2 inches left there.







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« Last Edit: Jul 28, 2009, 09:34:40 PM by bossnote »

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Re: 1980 suspension testing
« Reply #1 on: Jul 12, 2009, 03:22:00 PM »
looks good man!
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Re: 1980 suspension testing
« Reply #2 on: Jul 16, 2009, 10:10:18 AM »
dude, thats a clean ride for NewYork :thumbs:
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Re: 1980 suspension testing
« Reply #3 on: Jul 16, 2009, 11:10:34 AM »
Rig looks nice. Sorry about the  :offtopic: but do you have any good pics of how your front bumper is mounted? Thanks
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Re: 1980 suspension testing
« Reply #4 on: Jul 19, 2009, 02:39:15 PM »
i will take some pics of the bumper right now

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Re: 1980 suspension testing
« Reply #5 on: Jul 19, 2009, 03:08:22 PM »
so i found that coincedentally the max compression of the 14" shocks is actually at the limit of the leaf travel anyhow due to the shackles holding me back.  in the rear is pretty much as far as i am wanting to take it because if i went with a longer shackle it would render useless because the current 4 1/2 inch shackle allows the rear spring to become linear once flexed.  so problem solved i don't need to 12" shocks int eh front and in the rear the shackles can stay the same.  if anything the rear would end up becoming 3 link but it is fine having leafs all the way around.  its better to have all the leafs to use it for a truck and haul :pokinit: too.  i loaded it up with compost and she was leanin back lol. 

in the pic below you can see that i drilled into the newly mounted front leaf hanger to support the bottom mounts.  i did make a custom spacer with some scrap steel i ad lying around.  and for the top bolts i used the factory mounted bracket that is welded tot he top half of the frame rail.  it bolted right up i think it was off by maybe an 1/8" but it tightened up with no problems.




in the pic below you will notice i ended up working with the winch mount sold at trail-gear.  i just bent up sometube and burned it to form a bumper lol or pile of metel.



it sits more factory with the couple leafs i took out of the rear***v
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i took some more scrap steel to mount my directionals.



it is pretty stout too.  i hooked up ont he far left corner and tugged on a pre runner pretty hard, enough to jerk me to a hault and it just barely bent the left corner out.



next i fabbed the exhaust a bit making it 2" from the  manifold's down pipe out  to the tail pipe.




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Re: 1980 suspension testing
« Reply #6 on: Jul 19, 2009, 03:22:47 PM »
:willynilly: I'm gettin dizzy  :conf:
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Re: 1980 suspension testing
« Reply #7 on: Jul 19, 2009, 03:25:47 PM »
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Re: 1980 suspension testing gone bumper ????
« Reply #8 on: Jul 19, 2009, 06:36:56 PM »
i will take some pics of the bumper right now
Thanks for the pics  :beerchug:
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Re: 1980 suspension testing gone bumper ????
« Reply #9 on: Jul 19, 2009, 08:35:10 PM »
If this is your shackle angle when it is sitting on flat ground that is a lot of angle. Once the shackle is bottomed out on the frame it will put more stress on the spring leafs leading to premature breakage. Why did you put the "boomerang shackles" on it?

Also you will notice I modified your first post, I removed a word. This is a family BB so word your posts that way.

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Re: 1980 suspension testing gone bumper ????
« Reply #10 on: Jul 19, 2009, 09:28:21 PM »
If this is your shackle angle when it is sitting on flat ground that is a lot of angle. Once the shackle is bottomed out on the frame it will put more stress on the spring leafs leading to premature breakage. Why did you put the "boomerang shackles" on it?

Also you will notice I modified your first post, I removed a word. This is a family BB so word your posts that way.  OK



I looks a lot worse at that angle.  i used a boomerang shackle on the outsides to prevent from hitting the rock slider rail.  i did do a bit of trial and error using 4" to 6" shackels but this is the best result allowing me to compress the spring to a linear position and giving me the best extention.  



looking at the acute angle i would say it is far from being too much of an angle sitting at 70*+.  that was just a bad picture for determining the angle
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Re: 1980 suspension testing gone bumper ????
« Reply #11 on: Jul 19, 2009, 09:34:50 PM »


here are the custom 4" eye to eye shackles i was working with but didn't lower the rear enough so i ended up going to a 4.5" shackle and took out two springs from either side of the rear leafs.

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Re: 1980 suspension testing gone bumper ????
« Reply #12 on: Jul 19, 2009, 09:38:18 PM »


you can't see the front passenger shackle angle but there is still some compression left and in the following pic you can see i still have roughly 2-3 inches of compression left rendering me max compression at about max shackle angle. 


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Re: 1980 suspension testing gone bumper ????
« Reply #13 on: Jul 19, 2009, 09:44:53 PM »
i will do my best to get better pictures, make more sense out of it all.

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Re: 1980 suspension testing gone bumper ????
« Reply #14 on: Jul 20, 2009, 08:47:41 PM »


if i go with the 12" i don't have enough travel for extention??????

i think i would rather have more extention than compression. 

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Re: 1980 suspension testing gone bumper ????
« Reply #15 on: Jul 20, 2009, 08:49:00 PM »


and i might just end up going just a bit longer in the rear shackle.  again now im running 4.5"

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Re: 1980 suspension testing gone bumper ????
« Reply #16 on: Jul 20, 2009, 08:50:52 PM »


if i go with the 12" i don't have enough travel for extention??????

i think i would rather have more extention than compression. 

still plenty of room for the spring to compress but the shock is holding me back.  i hate to cut up the wheel well hmmm i might use the rear bottom mounts and mount them that way.  think it would make for me to have max compression.  what ya all think?

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Re: 1980 suspension testing gone bumper ????
« Reply #17 on: Jul 28, 2009, 08:13:57 PM »




took a trip to bald mountain this past weekend.  was pretty cool but ran into some issues on the hills and especially the elevation.  soon i will be adding to this thread my build up of a hybrid.  i will be using my 20r head and a block out of an early 83 22r.  on top of the hybrid i am going to invest into making a hydrogen generator which, through testing of course, i hope will bring an increase in mileage and/or lack of starving on the hills.

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Re: 1980 suspension testing gone bumper ????
« Reply #18 on: Jul 28, 2009, 09:29:58 PM »


at least the fabbed up bump stop in the rear did its job.  leaves about 3/8" of clearance before the tire hits the frame.

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Re: 1980 toyota
« Reply #19 on: Jul 29, 2009, 08:13:48 AM »
Lookin good!
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Re: 1980 toyota
« Reply #20 on: Jul 30, 2009, 12:43:55 AM »
That's a pretty nice first gen. I have been thinking of building one for a long time. I really like the way they look.
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Re: 1980 toyota
« Reply #21 on: Jul 30, 2009, 08:31:25 AM »
Yeah and they are really simple to work with.  i went to take a look at the engine for the hybrid swap but it was all two wheel drive and i reallywant a five speed tranny so im gunna continue to shop.  if anyone wants to sell a l50/l52 i will check it out.  or if you have a 81-81 you would like to part out i have a pretty good list of stuff i want. 

So the hybrid idea mmmm maybe not so much.  i am thinking about jsut adding a header and putting on a bigger carb.  with the lower 3.9 gearing of the L50 series of tranny i should be good on gearing.   AHHHH too many options but its the cheap and easy bang for the buck.  i want to keep things simple but have all these ideas.   

Hydrogen generator is in the making, the majority of the results are poor so new materials are required.

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Re: 1980 toyota
« Reply #22 on: Feb 07, 2010, 09:10:12 PM »
I don't know what you know about the yota trannies but the later model ones are much stouter than the older ones. I know that Marlin knows all the tricks to beafing up those older trannies but what I would do is run what you have and shop for a w series tranny out of a new fuel injected toyota. I am running w series in both my toyotas. I have 85 that has the first gen style motor with the 20/22r on propane. It runs tits. I was able to get a lot more power out of the motor for cheap with this set up. I want to say I paid 30 dollars for my head with from pick a part on half off day and they threw in the intake. I took the head in, had it rebuilt and put the 22r valves in the head. I would recommend going this way. I don't think you will be dissapointed.
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