Standard SAS or RUF

yjay · February 21, 2009, 07:56:37 PM

I'm going to sas a 2nd gen 4runner, and I'm trying to decide if it's better to use a full kit with the springs that come with it, or to do a rear up front spring set up right off the bat. How big of a difference is there, and what are the pros and cons of each setup? I would not want to do the typical setup with the springs that come in the generic kit and then be bummed 6 months down the road that i didn't RUF. Let me hear what you think if you have experience with both. Thanks.

Gittinit · February 21, 2009, 08:26:07 PM

If you want easy, go with a kit. If your willing to put extra effort into making your suspension work to your liking go ruf.

bigarms23 · February 21, 2009, 08:56:36 PM

i would just use the sas kit

86bobbedtoy · February 21, 2009, 09:46:42 PM

the ruf put the axle further forward, and are free with some time .
bought ones are expensive but are a plug and play

I have always been worries about rufs sagging
but for saving 300 I guess its worth doing a few times

Rockcrawlintoy · February 21, 2009, 10:47:51 PM

why not buy a kit and make a hybrid leaf pack with the ruf like kiyul4130 did with his truck. he used some RUF and his marlin pack to make a kick ass leaf pack

yjay · February 22, 2009, 08:10:34 AM

I figure I can probably buy a kit and substitute rear springs for a couple bucks if it makes a significant difference in articulation. Is it any more difficult to install them as opposed to the shorter ones? What is different about installing them?
Thanks

yjay · February 22, 2009, 05:49:47 PM

Bueller--------------- Bueller---------------Bueller?

toyomr285 · February 22, 2009, 07:19:52 PM

Go with a kit, because it comes with everything you need.

Hyena · February 23, 2009, 09:07:30 PM

if you build them right they won't sag!

kneedownnate · February 23, 2009, 09:14:05 PM

Quote from: rockcrawlintoy on February 21, 2009, 10:47:51 PM
why not buy a kit and make a hybrid leaf pack with the ruf like kiyul4130 did with his truck. he used some RUF and his marlin pack to make a kick ass leaf pack

And now I have his old top two leaves

It's cool, I don't really want to lift my truck a lot or move the axle way forward, so they'll work just fine for me whenever I get off my ass and set them up!

yjay · February 24, 2009, 06:25:09 AM

Do RUF's use the same front hanger location and just move the rear one?

Rockcrawlintoy · February 24, 2009, 08:37:26 AM

0or boomerang shackles

Ghtoyrunner · February 24, 2009, 01:58:04 PM

RUF little more work but i think it works better and you save a little money.

yjay · February 25, 2009, 04:18:12 PM

So, do you move the rear hangers back? Do the front hangers stay the same? Is the articulation waayy more?

kneedownnate · February 25, 2009, 05:55:31 PM

Quote from: rockcrawlintoy on February 24, 2009, 08:37:26 AM
0or boomerang shackles

toyomr285 · February 26, 2009, 07:17:57 PM

So you don't have to put a drop spring hanger? And how big boomerang shackles do you use?

Rockcrawlintoy · February 26, 2009, 07:24:27 PM

i have a drop hanger. but every setup is different. i dont have boomerang shackles but my shackle hanger is below the frame so i put it wherever i wanted

toyomr285 · February 26, 2009, 07:45:51 PM

Did you make your own drop hanger or did you buy it?

yjay · February 26, 2009, 10:16:32 PM

Got pix?

yota_krawler · February 26, 2009, 10:21:16 PM

RUF!!!!! thats what I did on my old toy and I loved em! they are comparable to a marlin spring.... if you build them right. I put mine up against a marlin front spring and they preformed just as good.... For way less money!

Rockcrawlintoy · February 26, 2009, 10:28:45 PM

Quote from: toyomr285 on February 26, 2009, 07:45:51 PM
Did you make your own drop hanger or did you buy it?

made it. i did my sas in 2002 and there was only one kit available from all pro for like 2500

yota_krawler · February 26, 2009, 10:33:47 PM

holy

thats a lot of

Rockcrawlintoy · February 26, 2009, 10:41:23 PM

yup the kits are way nice but its not like anyone who is able to do an sas wouldn't be able to make their own kit. it just saves a lot of time

THK Matt · February 27, 2009, 12:03:46 AM

Hey Yjay, if you need any help with your truck. I'm in Sandpoint, ID and would be willing to drive up and help.
I can do everything but weld

yjay · February 27, 2009, 06:18:13 AM

Thanks ThatHOKid. That's cool cause I can weld but am just starting with yotas. Let me know if you need any welding. It sounds like the main advantage to the RUF is cost savings? I'm cool with spending the bread for a kit cause it sounds like it makes it easy and new parts are sweet. Makes me feel like a kid at Christmas.

I usually build most of my own garbage, but sometimes new is worth the price.

Rockcrawlintoy · February 27, 2009, 07:30:56 AM

i went with them because they move the axle way forward thus requiring less lift to fit big tires.

84t0y · February 27, 2009, 11:38:00 AM

sorry if im hijacking your thread but would it be worth the extra work of using 51 inch ruf or should i just do 48inch?

THK Matt · February 27, 2009, 12:44:56 PM

Quote from: yjay on February 27, 2009, 06:18:13 AM
Thanks ThatHOKid. That's cool cause I can weld but am just starting with yotas. Let me know if you need any welding. It sounds like the main advantage to the RUF is cost savings? I'm cool with spending the bread for a kit cause it sounds like it makes it easy and new parts are sweet. Makes me feel like a kid at Christmas. I usually build most of my own garbage, but sometimes new is worth the price.

yeah for sure! go with a kit... i'm more then willin to help ya out

86bobbedtoy · February 27, 2009, 12:44:57 PM

I think one needs bomarang shackles

other that that its the same?

Rockcrawlintoy · February 27, 2009, 01:03:23 PM

Quote from: Travis H on February 27, 2009, 11:38:00 AM
sorry if im hijacking your thread but would it be worth the extra work of using 51 inch ruf or should i just do 48inch?

i used the 48 inch ones. if i didnt i would have had to inboard the shackle hanger since i used a dana 44 with a narrower spring perch width than toyota.

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