Author Topic: Mormons..... (Read 20958 times)

COToy91 · « **on:** Dec 05, 2008, 06:47:29 PM »

I am one

, but out of curiosity...

What do you know about the religion?
What are your opinions about the members of The Latter Day Saints?
Why, in your opinion, is this christian sect perceived as a cult?

Free to discussion by anyone. I just ask that everyone keeps this clean and no bashing goes down.

abnormaltoy · « **Reply #1 on:** Dec 05, 2008, 06:56:35 PM »

Quote from: COToy91 on Dec 05, 2008, 06:47:29 PM

I am one , but out of curiosity...

What do you know about the religion?
What are your opinions about the members of The Latter Day Saints?
Why, in your opinion, is this christian sect perceived as a cult?

Free to discussion by anyone. I just ask that everyone keeps this clean and no bashing goes down.

Not much.

Most that I've met seem decent...but, like any other group some can be a pain. Most will agree to disagree on beliefs.

Because of religious politics and because they aren't the norm...kind of the way traditional Dr's view (or used to) Chiropractors.

COToy91 · « **Reply #2 on:** Dec 05, 2008, 06:58:57 PM »

Quote from: abnormaltoy on Dec 05, 2008, 06:56:35 PM

Because of religious politics and because they aren't the norm...kind of the way traditional Dr's view (or used to) Chiropractors.

interesting comparison

Hammerhead · « **Reply #3 on:** Dec 05, 2008, 07:06:49 PM »

Hmmmm, I wouldn't have tagged you as a Mormon. That's interesting...

*** YELLER *** · « **Reply #4 on:** Dec 05, 2008, 07:08:33 PM »

My wife is one and I want 7 wifes can you talk to someone for me

Hammerhead · « **Reply #5 on:** Dec 05, 2008, 07:11:47 PM »

abnormaltoy · « **Reply #6 on:** Dec 05, 2008, 07:13:12 PM »

Quote from: **YELLER** on Dec 05, 2008, 07:08:33 PM

My wife is one and I want 7 wifes can you talk to someone for me

Wow...why in hell...do you feel guilty for having a good life and feel the need to make it suck?

*** YELLER *** · « **Reply #7 on:** Dec 05, 2008, 07:14:12 PM »

Quote from: abnormaltoy on Dec 05, 2008, 07:13:12 PM

Wow...why in hell...do you feel guilty for having a good life and feel the need to make it suck?

abnormaltoy · « **Reply #8 on:** Dec 05, 2008, 07:16:09 PM »

Quote from: **YELLER** on Dec 05, 2008, 07:14:12 PM

One thing is for certain...you get more wives, you ain't ever talking again!

(sorry...thread theft)

Hammerhead · « **Reply #9 on:** Dec 05, 2008, 07:26:27 PM »

With 7 wives he'll never get a word in edgewise...

Toymin8r · « **Reply #10 on:** Dec 06, 2008, 07:58:14 AM »

They took control of Howard Hughes and stole billions of dollars from him. Then they drugged him to death.

Other than that I'm fine with them.

brainlessfool · « **Reply #11 on:** Dec 06, 2008, 08:04:46 AM »

Howard Hughes is dead?

abnormaltoy · « **Reply #12 on:** Dec 06, 2008, 08:54:23 AM »

Quote from: Toymin8r on Dec 06, 2008, 07:58:14 AM

Then they drugged him to death.

I thought his doctor did that...or was that Elvis?

jimbo74 · « **Reply #13 on:** Dec 06, 2008, 09:00:05 AM »

Sorry, the Latter Day Saints do not believe in polygamy.

I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Rockcrawlintoy · « **Reply #14 on:** Dec 06, 2008, 09:30:05 AM »

I know they are supposed to have a years supply of food.

jimbo74 · « **Reply #15 on:** Dec 06, 2008, 09:31:25 AM »

Quote from: rockcrawlintoy on Dec 06, 2008, 09:30:05 AM

I know they are supposed to have a years supply of food.

It is highly recommended to have food storage for an emergency... especially with the way our world is going.... you never know what is going to happen....

ajordan1975 · « **Reply #16 on:** Dec 06, 2008, 09:37:16 AM »

no real problems w/ anyone. i could care less what religion somebody is. treat me w/ respect and you will get respect in return..

COToy91 · « **Reply #17 on:** Dec 06, 2008, 09:56:33 AM »

Quote from: hammerhead on Dec 05, 2008, 07:06:49 PM

Hmmmm, I wouldn't have tagged you as a Mormon. That's interesting...

Some of my political views probably are not in line with what you would expect them to be. At the same time though every time it is voting season the first presidency puts out a letter saying that the church is neutral and to vote where your heart lies.

Quote from: rockcrawlintoy on Dec 06, 2008, 09:30:05 AM

I know they are supposed to have a years supply of food.

Yeah I would if i could afford it, plus i am the only Latter Day Saint in my family

Quote from: **YELLER** on Dec 05, 2008, 07:08:33 PM

My wife is one and I want 7 wifes can you talk to someone for me

Official Church deceleration in the Pearl of Great Price by Wilferd Woodruff that polygamy is illegal, has never been taught and is frowned upon my the church... that was in 1890

gotrocks · « **Reply #18 on:** Dec 06, 2008, 10:56:43 AM »

Here's what I know about the mormon religion.

-They believe in the bible and the Christ came to this earth in and died for our sins. (location is Israel where the bible says it is)

-After his resurrection he went to heaven then came back to Latin America and preached. I don't know details about this but I believe I'm right about this point.

-Later Joseph Smith was lead by the Angel Moroni to find the book which he later translated to the Book of Mormon. The book of mormon is viewed to be equal to the bible and view it as a holy book.

-Mormons believe that our bodies are a holy temple and we should take care of them. They teach that you should take care of your body and not degrade your body with substances such as alcohol, smoking, caffeine, etc. They also believe in purity and sex after marriage.

-A common misconception is that Mormons believe in poligamy. This is untrue, but some off shoot sects do believe and practice this.

-The LSD believe in large families and that someday each family will be given a new earth to rule just like Adam and Eve. Because of this they believe heavily in genealogy research to find their family tree. (again a loose understanding)

My personal viewpoint of the religion is that I have a hard time grasping some of the claims the church makes. The biggest would have to be the Book of Mormon. If there was geological proof that Jesus Christ did come to the Americas I could believe that more. However the Bible does have proof that supports its existence and origin, unlike the Book of Mormon that is just claims of one man.

In terms of my view of the members. Well I have had Mormon friends over the years and don't have any issues with them as a person or in what they believe. Mostly this is because I am a Seventh Day Adventist and our morals are very similar. As in terms of religious beliefs I haven't had serious discussions with a Mormon but that doesn't mean that I wouldn't. Our beliefs do have some similarities with other christian faiths but obviously differ in many ways as well.

I don't specifically view Latter Day Saints as being a cult. However just as in any other religion there are off shoots that can give them bad names and the Mormons have definitely had some. It is unfortunate and I wish people would do a little more research into something before they go out and immediately point fingers and accuse.

There are other things that I know but I want to see if so far my understanding are correct.

COToy91 · « **Reply #19 on:** Dec 06, 2008, 11:11:30 AM »

Here's what I know about the mormon religion.

-They believe in the bible and the Christ came to this earth in and died for our sins. (location is Israel where the bible says it is)

Very true we are Christians, a common misconception

-After his resurrection he went to heaven then came back to Latin America and preached. I don't know details about this but I believe I'm right
about this point.

Not so much Latin America, but East cost is what is the primary location is thought to be. I can elaborate more if you would like

-Later Joseph Smith was lead by the Angel Moroni to find the book which he later translated to the Book of Mormon. The book of mormon is viewed to be equal to the bible and view it as a holy book.

Correct also here, Moroni did direct him to where the plates were located. They were written in an Egyptian script, authenticated by a third party historian or translator at the time

-Mormons believe that our bodies are a holy temple and we should take care of them. They teach that you should take care of your body and not degrade your body with substances such as alcohol, smoking, caffeine, etc. They also believe in purity and sex after marriage.

Words of Wisdom in the Doctrine and Covenants and Chastity... Correct Again

-A common misconception is that Mormons believe in poligamy. This is untrue, but some off shoot sects do believe and practice this.

Hit it on the nose

-The LSD believe in large families and that someday each family will be given a new earth to rule just like Adam and Eve. Because of this they believe heavily in genealogy research to find their family tree. (again a loose understanding)

There are different levels of righteousness that are talked about in the bible.. Celestial, Terrestrial and Telestial. Its not so much our own planet lol. And we do genealogy like you said to be sealed to our families so that when the judgement happens we will be with our families for eternity. I can elaborate more here if you like also

My personal viewpoint of the religion is that I have a hard time grasping some of the claims the church makes. The biggest would have to be the Book of Mormon. If there was geological proof that Jesus Christ did come to the Americas I could believe that more. However the Bible does have proof that supports its existence and origin, unlike the Book of Mormon that is just claims of one man.

Like all religions a bit of faith gets the ball rolling

In terms of my view of the members. Well I have had Mormon friends over the years and don't have any issues with them as a person or in what they believe. Mostly this is because I am a Seventh Day Adventist and our morals are very similar. As in terms of religious beliefs I haven't had serious discussions with a Mormon but that doesn't mean that I wouldn't. Our beliefs do have some similarities with other christian faiths but obviously differ in many ways as well.

Indeed they are, to each their own

I don't specifically view Latter Day Saints as being a cult. However just as in any other religion there are off shoots that can give them bad names and the Mormons have definitely had some. It is unfortunate and I wish people would do a little more research into something before they go out and immediately point fingers and accuse.

WE do and kinda why i started this thread. Clear up some misconceptions of the Church. www.mormon.org is a great resource just to learn about what we believe

*** YELLER *** · « **Reply #20 on:** Dec 06, 2008, 12:16:37 PM »

here is something to ponder....

what year was the first BLACK PERSON allowed in the LDS Church

yer comments below

Hammerhead · « **Reply #21 on:** Dec 06, 2008, 06:35:15 PM »

Quote from: Toymin8r on Dec 06, 2008, 07:58:14 AM

They took control of Howard Hughes and stole billions of dollars from him. Then they drugged him to death.

Ummm, that's a pretty radical spin that was made up by jealous people who were mad that Howard gave money and properties to the Church. He gave to others too but you don't hear crazy claims about them.

Quote from: **YELLER** on Dec 06, 2008, 12:16:37 PM

what year was the first BLACK PERSON allowed in the LDS Church

When was anyone disallowed membership based on race? Some of the mormon pioneers who came and settled the Salt Lake valley to escape persecution were black.

iNfErNaL · « **Reply #22 on:** Dec 06, 2008, 07:54:10 PM »

I have no problem with Mormons exept for the two that came to my door this morning . They knocked on my door and I didn't feel like puting on a shirt and answering the door , they sat there for a bit and then started to walk away as they were talking to my neighbor , then they decided to bypass the cement walkway and cut accross our lawn and stood on our grass talking to my neighbor's kid for about 10 minutes . Made me pretty mad but I didn't wanna be a jerk so i just sat there and ate my breakfast

. . . Other than that , the majority I've met have been really nice people . I don't know much about the religion but my aunt , uncle and a few cousins are Mormon . I've even been to the Mormon temple in Utah . Very beautiful , I like the gold Angel on top of the temple .

Hammerhead · « **Reply #23 on:** Dec 06, 2008, 08:16:50 PM »

The Salt Lake Temple is an amazing building isn't it? And to think it took over 40 years to build with no power tools.

1981_toy · « **Reply #24 on:** Dec 06, 2008, 08:25:25 PM »

Be respectful to me and all is good i dont care who you are!!! $Beer Chug\'n$

COToy91 · « **Reply #25 on:** Dec 06, 2008, 09:16:30 PM »

Quote from: **YELLER** on Dec 06, 2008, 12:16:37 PM

here is something to ponder....

what year was the first BLACK PERSON allowed in the LDS Church

yer comments below

They were allowed in from the begining, they were not allowed to hold the priesthood till 1978

COToy91 · « **Reply #26 on:** Dec 06, 2008, 09:20:46 PM »

Quote from: Infernal on Dec 06, 2008, 07:54:10 PM

I have no problem with Mormons exept for the two that came to my door this morning . They knocked on my door and I didn't feel like puting on a shirt and answering the door , they sat there for a bit and then started to walk away as they were talking to my neighbor , then they decided to bypass the cement walkway and cut accross our lawn and stood on our grass talking to my neighbor's kid for about 10 minutes . Made me pretty mad but I didn't wanna be a jerk so i just sat there and ate my breakfast . . . Other than that , the majority I've met have been really nice people . I don't know much about the religion but my aunt , uncle and a few cousins are Mormon . I've even been to the Mormon temple in Utah . Very beautiful , I like the gold Angel on top of the temple .

Missionaries can be a bit much sometimes, I am not a lifer of the church so i never went on a mission but i know how they are.

iNfErNaL · « **Reply #27 on:** Dec 06, 2008, 09:25:01 PM »

Quote from: hammerhead on Dec 06, 2008, 08:16:50 PM

The Salt Lake Temple is an amazing building isn't it? And to think it took over 40 years to build with no power tools.

Yup , beautiful . It's been about 15 years since my visit but it was beautiful .

95toyrunner · « **Reply #28 on:** Dec 06, 2008, 09:51:21 PM »

LDS, born and raised

only 17, mission comin' soon

COToy91 · « **Reply #29 on:** Dec 06, 2008, 09:54:10 PM »

Quote from: 95toyrunner on Dec 06, 2008, 09:51:21 PM

LDS, born and raised only 17, mission comin' soon

Represent lol, only been a member for a year

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