Calipers

[89YOTA P/U]

Just to let everybody know 1989-1995 brake calipers are the same no matter if its a V-6 or if it is a 4cylinder i work at Napa Auto Parts i would know so dont be scamed or fooled by someone telling you other wise

[kneedownnate]

Are they the same or does napa just choose to sell only the vent ribbed v6 calipers so they're not stocking 2 nearly identical parts?

[fordh8r]

  V6 calipers have all four pistons the same size (large) and the 4 cyl calipers have 2 large and 2 smaller pistons and lack the size of fins on the casting as the V6 calipers have. I too have had both types in my hand at one time and the difference is obvious.

It might be ok to sell the V6 models to the 4 cyl guys but I wouldn't want to sell the 4 cyl ones to the V6 guys. You might wanna make sure they weren't boxed wrong or which version is being sold before someone gets the wrong stuff. 

[DTB]

V6 calipers have all four pistons the same size (large) and the 4 cyl calipers have 2 large and 2 smaller pistons and lack the size of fins on the casting as the V6 calipers have. I too have had both types in my hand at one time and the difference is obvious.

It might be ok to sell the V6 models to the 4 cyl guys but I wouldn't want to sell the 4 cyl ones to the V6 guys. You might wanna make sure they weren't boxed wrong or which version is being sold before someone gets the wrong stuff. 

yea wut he said

[Rocksurfer]

... and they always only seem to have the more expensive Gold line of their products.

[89YOTA P/U]

No they are the same u guys are wrong and napa is the Parts leader of the world they wouldnt just screw off something like that so you think what you want because i know the truth

[kneedownnate]

I pm'd this to duff but I think it was just after he logged off.  I'm not going to tell the op he's wrong or make it personal, but I have handled both caliper and distinctly remember them being different, so maybe toyota messed up and napa is right 

[fordh8r]

No they are the same u guys are wrong and napa is the Parts leader of the world they wouldnt just screw off something like that so you think what you want because i know the truth

If you say so, then it must be true.  I hope you've been doing this long enough to see how often and easy it is for stuff to be boxed wrong or miscatalogued to know better. But if you believe that the listings are complete and 100% acurate then so be it. 

[WHITE_TRASH]

Couldn't tell ya about napa calipers as I never dumped money on new stuff when I worked there..  But my 94 4 cylinder truck had a factory V6 braking system from master to calipers. 

[fordh8r]

Couldn't tell ya about napa calipers as I never dumped money on new stuff when I worked there..  But my 94 4 cylinder truck had a factory V6 braking system from master to calipers. 

One more reason making the listings acurate is nearly impossible. 

[kneedownnate]

Couldn't tell ya about napa calipers as I never dumped money on new stuff when I worked there..  But my 94 4 cylinder truck had a factory V6 braking system from master to calipers. 

I got my calipers off a 94 4 popper and they had the vent ribs on them, but that just further stirs the pot...

[fordh8r]

I got my calipers off a 94 4 popper and they had the vent ribs on them, but that just further stirs the pot...

What about the piston sizes? Were they the same or two different sizes in each caliper? 

[Rocksurfer]

I believe he may just be right on this, but NAPA (the worldwide parts leader and ripoff) is not the only company that shows the same part number for either the 2.4 or 3.0 Autozone shows the same part number for them. I used to deal with NAPA but it always seems that they never have anything in their standard product line. They always seem to only have the Gold products which cost twice as much and kills my opportunity to make a profit off anything.

[fordh8r]

I believe he may just be right on this, but NAPA (the worldwide parts leader and ripoff) is not the only company that shows the same part number for either the 2.4 or 3.0 Autozone shows the same part number for them. I used to deal with NAPA but it always seems that they never have anything in their standard product line. They always seem to only have the Gold products which cost twice as much and kills my opportunity to make a profit off anything.

After some much needed sleep, I think you may be onto something there RS. I was thinking of doing the same thing this morning and checking part numbers.

Well, being that they appear to be the same. The only reasons I can think that Toyota may have dropped their original 4cyl design (would make sense that's the one that got dropped) is two fold.

One, it costs less to make and stock one part that fits all VS. two different ones.

Two,  simple physics, the trucks of that era got heavier and more powerful.

The kid may be right about them being the same but what made him think that we would be "scammed or fooled" by this. If you ask for the parts correctly and you compare the parts closely for a match you won't be mislead. I can almost gaurantee that the pre '89 versions were, in fact, different.

[kneedownnate]

What about the piston sizes? Were they the same or two different sizes in each caliper? 

I'm heading to my storage unit soon to snag my 35s and will check then 

[Duffil]

[Duffil]

i am at home and don't have the catalog here I would prefer, but look at Beck Arnley 079-0643/0644 and 079-0799/0800.

[emsvitil]

Probably started with 4cyl and 6cyl calipers in 89.

Then toyota consolidated the calipers to the 6cyl model in a later year (94?).

Then the aftermarket figured out that what's good for toyota is good for them and went a step farther by consolidated all the earlier years to the 6cyl caliper

[fordh8r]

Probably started with 4cyl and 6cyl calipers in 89.

Then toyota consolidated the calipers to the 6cyl model in a later year (94?).

Then the aftermarket figured out that what's good for toyota is good for them and went a step farther by consolidated all the earlier years to the 6cyl caliper

Good possibility. Again, for the sake of not having to carry more than one part = $$$$$$$$

[Duffil]

OK here you guys go. NAPA part numbers for both 4cyl and V6 calipers:

242-61208/242-61207--these are 4cyl style, 1 large and 1 small piston

242-61264/242-61263--these are the large, finned V6 calipers.

OP--I don't know how long you've worked there, but where did you look them up? Please do not say "in the computer" because that is the wrong answer.  You will come to learn that the computer is not omniscient, and even paper catalogs are wrong from time to time. Hell, most of our listings for Toyota in general are screwed up.

This is a perfect example of why even good parts stores can't find the right parts.

Yes I am pissy. I'm over it.

[fordh8r]

  Thanks for that info, Duffil.  It seemed a bit strange. 

[Rocksurfer]

So in reality there are two different calipers and we need to make sure the proper one is given even though they will still work, is that what I'm getting out of this?

[Duffil]

So in reality there are two different calipers and we need to make sure the proper one is given even though they will still work, is that what I'm getting out of this?

yes.

I know you love that as an answer.

[Rocksurfer]

Gee and I thought that this thread was going to revolutionize the industry.

[WHITE_TRASH]

There are only a few basic calipers for mini trucks.  solid axle which has a narrow opening for thinner solid rotor and 2 small and 2 large pistons.  The 4 cylinder ifs caliper which is the same as the solid axle caliper with a larger opening to fit the thicker vented rotor.  Then the V6 ifs caliper which as far as I've seen the early (88-89) V6 calipers don't have the cooling fins like the later ones do. 


There it is in a nutshell... 

[Birfailed]

This thread is bs.  The guy obviously is just trying to get a rise out of everyone.  Let it die!  :bull crap: