steering arm on the front of the knuckle on toy

[Steve_925]

anyone tryed making there own steering arm on the front of the knuckle. i need my steering to be real low. i saw how rick made his own out of the stock cast arms but my skills arent that good. i was thinking of having them welded to the front of kuckle. any thoughts? and im pretty sure the knuckles are forged right? or cast?

[jimbo74]

would a ball flip work for you? i am not quite understanding what you mean by real low

[Steve_925]

i think a ball flip with flat steering arms would.
does anyone make flat steering arms

like that but on a yota knuckle
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mossyrocks/4runner30002.jpg

[jimbo74]

not sure on flat arms, but i do know that some of the aftermarket vendors to make less rise than regular hysteer arms

[Hyena]

why not just keep the stock arms?  thats all rick did, he just beefed them up a bit.

[Steve_925]

i have hysteer arms on it but i figure i can selll them and make some $ and build my own for nothing. i dont wanna weld cast, so i dont want to use stock ones. but if the knuckle is cast then thats not going to work for me then

[Hyena]

just use the stock arms.  how many stock arms have you seen broken?  the only ones i have seen were from the stock drag link part.  and why do you need it that low?

[Steve_925]

because of how low the trucks gonna be. i could notch the frame but i was just thinking of that idea

[79coyotefrg]

i put my truck through alot,  and never bent a  stock arm,  made a banana looking thing out of my drag link and tierod

if i had to do it over i would have kept the stock steering  just so i could keep the truck lower to the ground

[Hyena]

i would try it out with the highsteer first.  that would have to be really low for the tie rod to hit the frame.

[4RnrRick]

Just start with the stock arms...

[WHITE_TRASH]

A buddy of mine used 2 sets of stock arms and bent them to meet in the middle.  he runs full hydro on them without any failures for the past couple years.

[jimbo74]

who will be doing the welding?

[Steve_925]

if i were to use the stock arms wich ill proble do from what all of you guys are saying, ill tack everything then have a shop weld it. i dont want to weld cast. what about the fact of not having to wirry about studs though, its just an idea, might be cool to be the first to try it.

[Steve_925]

maybe ill do both and if the knuckle arm fails ill put the stock arm on.......

[jimbo74]

if i were to use the stock arms wich ill proble do from what all of you guys are saying, ill tack everything then have a shop weld it. i dont want to weld cast. what about the fact of not having to wirry about studs though, its just an idea, might be cool to be the first to try it.

you are planning on welding directly to knuckle!


i would seriously research shops...... i would be worried to have some shop work on it, and trust my life to that... i know there are certifications and the like...... but with anything, some people can buy their education, and some learn it....... when i was a tire technician, i had an ASE certified brake technician ask me how to change drum brakes.......

[Steve_925]

you are planning on welding directly to knuckle!


i would seriously research shops...... i would be worried to have some shop work on it, and trust my life to that... i know there are certifications and the like...... but with anything, some people can buy their education, and some learn it....... when i was a tire technician, i had an ASE certified brake technician ask me how to change drum brakes.......

yes


theres kirks welding in brentwood there pretty good. jimbo your from livermore right? im in antioch what shops do you know of

[jimbo74]

yes


theres kirks welding in brentwood there pretty good. jimbo your from livermore right? im in antioch what shops do you know of

im not from livermore, and dont know of any shops nor anyone capable of doing it...... i woudl trust 4runrrick and a few others around here like willy mammoth, but i know i couldnt do it, and having worked in automotive repair shops, know that there is shady stuff that does go on there, i wouldnt trust my life or the lives of others to some place i am jsut assuming will do good work because they are a shop...... if my builds ever get to the point i need that done, i will investigate and ask more thorougly.... im not saying welding shops dont know what they are doing, you just have to be careful...... too often is business about qucik turn around and most profit than quality

[kiyul4130]

theres more fabwork/thought going into making an entirely new arms that mount off the knuckle which would weld like ass and probably rip off more sooner than later than it would be to do what rick did and beef up some stock ones. you cant get any easier than bolting on the original arms and then adding some steel, besides there both going to be the exact same on both sides. ya the knuckles are cast.

[BLACKDOG]

i put my truck through alot,  and never bent a  stock arm,  made a banana looking thing out of my drag link and tierod

if i had to do it over i would have kept the stock steering  just so i could keep the truck lower to the ground

glen! I have stock steering for you truck!! I'll trade you your high steer for it!  

[4RnrRick]

The stock toyota arms are Forged steel - not cast iron..... hence there is no issues welding on them. but even so - I did the preheat, then weld and bury them in sand for a slow cool down. as long as you don't chop up the factory arms, you totally should be fine.

[Steve_925]

The stock toyota arms are Forged steel - not cast iron..... hence there is no issues welding on them. but even so - I did the preheat, then weld and bury them in sand for a slow cool down. as long as you don't chop up the factory arms, you totally should be fine.

i went back and looked at how you made yours and relized they were forged and the reson u pre heated them were because you only have a 110v welder(me too) so im gonna use some stock arms. thanx for all the help everyone.

[boggerunner]

u could buy the highsteer arms, and drill them out for 3'4 hiems, and run the tie rod and drag link on the bottom side of the arms

[Hyena]

u could buy the highsteer arms, and drill them out for 3'4 hiems, and run the tie rod and drag link on the bottom side of the arms

not if he is running leaf springs.  they would be right in the way.

[Steve_925]

im linking it. im gonna link it before i mess with the steering. i have hysteer arms so im gonna flex it out with the the tie rod filpped under the arms, if its still not low enough then ill try somthing else.

[Hyena]

there you go, thats a good idea then.

[porkchop]

A buddy of mine used 2 sets of stock arms and bent them to meet in the middle.  he runs full hydro on them without any failures for the past couple years.

If you can get a shot of that for me trash I am in the middle of going full hydro and still got old style steering I need ideas bad

[Hyena]

put one on the bottom and one on the top.  drill them out to 3/4 or whatever and use a long grade 8 bolt between them and mount the tie rod right under the top arm.  that would be sick.  steering arms will work on the bottom, you just need 8 more cone washers.

[Steve_925]

put one on the bottom and one on the top.  drill them out to 3/4 or whatever and use a long grade 8 bolt between them and mount the tie rod right under the top arm.  that would be sick.  steering arms will work on the bottom, you just need 8 more cone washers.

that would be. would have to strengthen the arms as much ether.  and really i could run the tie rod where ever i wanted height wise

[WHITE_TRASH]

He had to bend the arms I think... But thinking back on it now I don't see why he would have to.....   I'd plate to the steering stop boss too just for a bit extra too.