Author Topic: 2WD to 4WD (Read 5112 times)

81Toy4x · « **on:** Jul 10, 2004, 07:46:21 PM »

I am considering doing an SAS 4WD swap on a '92 Toyota 2WD pickup. Can I bolt a transfer case to the back of a 2WD tranny or would I have to buy a whole new transmission and transfer case?

yotaboy79 · « **Reply #1 on:** Jul 10, 2004, 08:00:15 PM »

im pritty shure you will need a new tranny and the rear axle is different from 4x4 to tell if it has 5 lugs you will need another rear axle out of a 4x4 just make shure that the trans and the t-case match up $Beer Chug\'n$

Skinny_Pedal · « **Reply #2 on:** Jul 10, 2004, 08:06:57 PM »

that and the rear axle on the 2wd is only 7.5 in. not 8"

yotaboy79 · « **Reply #3 on:** Jul 10, 2004, 08:13:16 PM »

yup thats why i sead he would need a new one a few came with the 8in but i doubt it did if it has 5 lugs its a 7.5in
6 lugs its a 8 in

Skinny_Pedal · « **Reply #4 on:** Jul 10, 2004, 08:24:27 PM »

my bad didnt fully read what u wrote

yotaboy79 · « **Reply #5 on:** Jul 10, 2004, 08:30:45 PM »

no biggy

kyle_22r · « **Reply #6 on:** Jul 10, 2004, 09:42:23 PM »

...actually...

2wds with 4 speeds and 1 ton 2wds had 8" 30 spline axles but they were 5 lug and SUA. earlier('73 or so to '83 or so) often had the same trannies as 4x4s, such as the l43 and l52. just had a different tailhousing and maybe output shaft i think. later trucks used the W55(though i've heard rumor of 1 tons having a W56...haven't confirmed that)

all in all, if you have a tranny, t-case and a set of axles, it wouldn't be that big of a task compared to SASing a regular IFS 4x4. you could even use a 2wd box which are setup for crossover, but you'd have to move it up to the front of the frame as(at least 70s 2wds) had the box close to the firewall. those had forward facing pitman arms, not sure about later box

2nd or 3rd gen(as in '73-78 trucks) didn't have the engine mounts on the frame -- they had them on the center crossmember(coil spring front vs torsion bars) which locates them about an inch from the frame on both sides. not sure if you'd need to cut this away from the frame when doing an SAS, might have to build new engine mounts that attach to the frame if the crossmember has to go

Skinny_Pedal · « **Reply #7 on:** Jul 10, 2004, 09:53:01 PM »

if this makes a difference from what u said the truck he is talking about is a 92 pickup with a 5 speed and no power steering

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #8 on:** Jul 11, 2004, 02:10:07 AM »

Easy swap, just start hackn' and cutn' on it, change the rearend and trans, gut the interior for a flat belly

bolt in a 4wd trans cases, and a front axle and your done. See its easy!

brainlessfool · « **Reply #9 on:** Jul 11, 2004, 07:44:06 AM »

Well now we know that he has not read $300 !

yotaboy79 · « **Reply #10 on:** Jul 11, 2004, 07:53:13 AM »

hes prolly still trying to read it thats alot of reading

81Toy4x · « **Reply #11 on:** Jul 11, 2004, 09:18:15 AM »

Actually, I have read every post on that thread. In fact, I have ridden in that white truck w/ blue flames. How many of you guys can say that.

Skinny_Pedal · « **Reply #12 on:** Jul 11, 2004, 11:09:56 AM »

i can, biotches! it was a

experience

yotaboy79 · « **Reply #13 on:** Jul 11, 2004, 01:16:32 PM »

unfortunatly i cant $I\'m Down$

81Toy4x · « **Reply #14 on:** Jul 11, 2004, 02:18:25 PM »

I don't know why I wrote blue flames, they are orange.

84runner · « **Reply #15 on:** Jul 12, 2004, 02:17:37 PM »

Quote from: 81Toy4x on Jul 11, 2004, 02:18:25 PM

I don't know why I wrote blue flames, they are orange.

Because your lieing

81Toy4x · « **Reply #16 on:** Jul 12, 2004, 04:22:34 PM »

He didn't have the flames when i rode in the truck. It was white at that time, but he painted the flames after that. This was at Goldendale, the CalRocs comp. I am not lying about anything. You can ask WT yourself, I even had a

with him. Me ---> $Beer Chug\'n$ <--- White Trash 86runner-sas was there too but he was off bein $That\'s Gay$

81Toy4x · « **Reply #17 on:** Jul 12, 2004, 05:00:20 PM »

J/K he was right there with us, I just thought I'd rough him up a little.

Skinny_Pedal · « **Reply #18 on:** Jul 12, 2004, 05:01:09 PM »

hey go blow me u had to ride in the back like a dog.

83yota · « **Reply #19 on:** Jul 12, 2004, 06:15:37 PM »

easy ppl. be gental $Beer Chug\'n$

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #20 on:** Jul 13, 2004, 01:48:05 AM »

they are both lying I gave them Mt. Dew! Really I would never give a minor beer...........ok maybe I did but you'll never prove it!!

SWAMPER · « **Reply #21 on:** Jul 13, 2004, 09:43:09 AM »

Shame on you WT

ah you guys are lucky you live close by....

81Toy4x · « **Reply #22 on:** Jul 13, 2004, 11:18:34 AM »

we dont live close by. we just wanted to go to the comp 4 hours away! (86runner-sas)

81Toy4x · « **Reply #23 on:** Jul 13, 2004, 11:52:51 AM »

WT is right he didn't give a minor beer. We stole it from his cooler.

SWAMPER · « **Reply #24 on:** Jul 13, 2004, 11:58:03 AM »

Shame on you guys for being

And I live like 30 hrs away from Cali

Oh WT I had told 81Toy4x that It would be a long and dificult process to convert from 2 to 4wd, and I told him this because thats what I had read...that something with the frame woulnt go right and all this thing...but they did the article on a chevy so maybe yotas are easier $:-\$ \

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #25 on:** Jul 13, 2004, 12:00:38 PM »

Yotas are actually about the easiest thing to convert to 4x, well there are some old dodge's and internationals that are way easier but I wont jack this thread that much. The frames on 3rd gen 2x's have a higher "arch" above where the front axle goes so you have more clearance.

SWAMPER · « **Reply #26 on:** Jul 13, 2004, 12:03:55 PM »

So what your saying is that in that void "arch" thres enuf space for the T-Case?

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #27 on:** Jul 13, 2004, 12:16:41 PM »

Nope the area where the motor mounts are welded to the frame is actually higher so you have more room for the front axle and steering clearance. The area for the t-case is a bit smaller but using a stock crossmember it would still fit.

SWAMPER · « **Reply #28 on:** Jul 13, 2004, 12:20:00 PM »

Got it, thanks

cgbemis · « **Reply #29 on:** Jul 15, 2004, 10:46:40 PM »

What about the second generation 2wd truck frames? How do these compare to the solid axle frames, and to the 3rd gen. 2wd frames. Reason I'm asking, is I have an 86 2wd I'm thinking about converting over to the dark side.

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