92 toyota pickup SAS *PICS of the new Taco*

[THK Matt]

how fast is your birf changing time now?

Should join the Birf NASCAR Pit Crew

[86bobbedtoy]

thats what I was thinkin.

[1981_toy]

  this is why i have a toy rear not front

[Thomas P]

did good ole santy clause get you some longs?

[808]

Should join the Birf NASCAR Pit Crew

yeah seriously i think it took me 30 min to do everything.
the only thing that always slows me down is gettin that brake caliper holes lined up

did good ole santy clause get you some longs?

i wish i would have asked.
i have one stock birf left but i dont even want to bother with putting it in.
i hate them so much.

[THK Matt]

yeah id wait it out and just not put anything in til you can get longs.
even if its just 27-spline stubs from Bobby Long.
better then the stock birfs.

[wampum]

dang bob, that sucks about the birfs. Longs and sliders should be your next goals.

[kiyul4130]

i only broke one stock birfield. after that happened i didnt ever want to deal with that again so when i got home i ordered some longs up like a week later. they lasted me 3 1/2 years.

[I.D.G.A.F]

are they good about honoring there warranty(longfield)?

[808]

yeah its just a matter of money now.

[I.D.G.A.F]

Right Right

[COToy91]

yeah seriously i think it took me 30 min to do everything.
the only thing that always slows me down is gettin that brake caliper holes lined up

i wish i would have asked.
i have one stock birf left but i dont even want to bother with putting it in.
i hate them so much.

30 minutes?!?! you must not know the camo method.......

[THK Matt]

30 minutes?!?! you must not know the camo method.......

explain!

[Sluice Box Hero]

you take the knuckle off via removing the histeer arm and lower trunion bearing, this allows you to removed the whole knuckle assembly withuout disassembling anything.  its slick, but you flopp up your trunion preload every time.

search pirate for 'camo method'

[THK Matt]

you still have to take the split retainer deals off the back of the knuckle though.... right?

[Sluice Box Hero]

youre kidding right?. . . comon man, you also have to take the hub off and remove the c clip if you run them, but geeze . . .i was generalizing

[THK Matt]

youre kidding right?. . . comon man, you also have to take the hub off and remove the c clip if you run them, but geeze . . .i was generalizing

I have disassembled my axle once lol
never dug into a straight axle before.

so I have half serious lol

[Sluice Box Hero]

ive never owned a toy axle, ive just read about the poor souls who have.

[808]

huh never heard or thought of that either.
but you would still need to take the felt seal off too.
huh

[THK Matt]

ive never owned a toy axle, ive just read about the poor souls who have.

yeah yeah lol

its not too hard to do though.

on an axle thats never had a bolt touched in 220k miles... DAMN it was stubborn lol.
shouldnt be hard anymore.

[Alarri]

Do you have any pictures ¿?
Salu2
AA

[TURBO]

it is imparitive you run the "Front Axle Outer Birfield Snap Ring" ($2.22) or your birfield will fail. it's only a matter of time. shame a $2 part can do so much damage. ask marlin

[yota-tota]

really why is that? DOes the birf move too far into the inner casueing the cage to wear and break?

I havnt been runnin the snap ring for a while now and only broke once and i dont think the snap ring would have saved me.

[808]

it is imparitive you run the "Front Axle Outer Birfield Snap Ring" ($2.22) or your birfield will fail. it's only a matter of time. shame a $2 part can do so much damage. ask marlin

could you explain more?

[TIMS89CRAWLER]

could you explain more?

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[Goose]

x3

[COToy91]

How to change one quickly Camo method
Pull locking hub cap and remove snap ring.
Unbolt seal/felts on back of knuckle.
Unbolt brake caliper and tie out of the way. (can be skipped if you have long brake lines)
Unbolt steering arm. (leave bottom knuckle cap alone)
Pull entire outer knuckle assembly off of axle.
Swap in your parts.
Put it back together.
It's a big-time shortcut since you don't need to mess with the 54mm socket or wheel bearings.

[COToy91]

Martack - See 'Birf Stuff' above for more info on this....

The easiest way to find the correct location for a Martack is to put tape on the spines of the axle shaft and insert the axle into the housing while watching the seal location. And keep moving the tape until you found the correct position.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attac...postid=1537731

Also note that after tacking the splines you wil have to carefully grind them doen flush so the axle will slip into the spider gears/locker all the way to the tack. Another way is to grease the splines but for me that has never worked as good as using tape. You want to place the tack weld so the axle can not slide into the diff to causing the seal to leak diff fluid into your knuckle. This is also used with aftermarket Birfs so you can remove the outer most clip to add in removal of the axle from the birf n the case of trail breakage.

Another think tha tis important to note is that you SHOULD measure this distance on you axle and not following any one elses dimensions becasue there are too many variables to only use on tack weld location for all set-ups.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4RnrRick
Here a sketch that I did quickly to show you what my understanding of what a Martack does.

The top version (factory) allows the axle to float a bit on the axle spines in the diff due to tolerances and expansion or contraction due to the change in temperature.

The version on the bottom allows the axle to float a bit in the star of the birf and the splines in the diff to tolerances and expansion or contraction due to the change in temperature.


Quote:
Originally Posted by 4RnrRick
And here is the Camo Method.

This verson allows the axle and Birf assmbly to float a bit on the brass bushing inthe spine, on the splines in the star of the birf and the splines in the diff to tolerances and expansion or contraction due to the change in temperature.

[COToy91]

More Reference Links:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...67#post2913767
http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/4x4....shtml#Martack
http://dreamwater.com/zuk/martack.html

[Goose]

Would not running that outer c-clip allow it to be a little loose on the brass bushing, could that mess it up?