beadlock wheels?

Started by yotaoffroad44, March 24, 2008, 10:25:39 PM

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

yotaoffroad44

I have a 92 Toyota pickup as my daily driver and project truck. I'm considering buying some beadlock wheels for it, however they are kinda expensive. Is it worth it to get the beadlocks or are regular wheels fine?

NorCalToy

well if its DD they arent street legal. idk if that matters to you or not, its because the bolts can get stressed and break causing the tire to become flat and you to potentially wreck and die. if i rememer correctly.
:willynilly: '89 truck SAS sittin on 35's, Tacoma rear axle w/ E-Locker, welded front

kneedownnate - You can go through life being scared of the possible, or you can have a little fun and tease the inevitable

iɹǝʌo ǝɯ ııoɹ sıɥʇ pɐǝɹ uɐɔ noʎ ɟı

:flamer: IFS

WHITE_TRASH

Beadlocks ar illegal because they are not retard proof.  The general public would never check the torque on the bolts and they would eventually come loose and leak causing the moronic user to scratch their head and find someone to blame for their issue.  Eventually they would talk to a shady lawyer and sue the wheel company for selling such a crap product thusly costing the wheel manufacturer money.


Well, thats my take on it anyway....  :hahaha:

I wouldnt worry about getting popped too badly, just grab some eaton beadlocks and don't look back beings they are a spitting image of the mock locks that all the mall crawlers run these days.
Full hydro, 186:1 with an auto and 44's what could go wrong??

yotaoffroad44

Well my truck has alot of things on it that arent street legal so that part doesnt bother me. But i just dont know if it would be worth the cost.  Frankly i dont want to be in the middle of nowhere and have the bead break on my stock wheels.

WHITE_TRASH

So toss some weld ons on the stock wheels and save about $600 over buying aftermarket ready made wheels... ;)
Full hydro, 186:1 with an auto and 44's what could go wrong??

yotaoffroad44

Well i have to buy new wheels anyways since im running 33" 14.5x15 and the tires are way to wide for the stock toyota wheels.

94MtnYote

 What about Staun internal beadlocks?
22RE .30 over, mild cam, K&N, LCE header, 2.25'' pipe, high flow cat, Magnaflow.
Marlin 1200LB clutch

no substitute for 4wheel drive.

Tallchevy

:angry: My child is an honor student at Anton Levay's School of Satanic Arts :angry:

87 4Runner redo
http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=41959.0
87 Toyota 4Runner, SAS Rig Gallery
http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=29877.msg3

DTB

Quote from: WHITE_TRASH on March 24, 2008, 11:27:39 PM
So toss some weld ons on the stock wheels and save about $600 over buying aftermarket ready made wheels... ;)
do those balance out well?
RIP KYOTA
Quotetoyminator2000 – There has to be dumb people in order for there to be smart people
Low down & durrrrrrty Rock Stacking Web Wheeler :driving: Too many Yuppies..:shake:...Not enough Hippies :flamer:  Hobbies: stealing cookies, slangin' tacos, owning tequila bars, wheeling with paco

yotaoffroad44

i tried to balance them myself, it was a pain and it still vibrates bad at about 60

WHITE_TRASH

If you pay attention when you mount them to be sure they are centered they will run down the road just fine.  On my old sx's I'd run up to 85 no problem.  Just dropped in a couple shots of bb's to balance them out.
Full hydro, 186:1 with an auto and 44's what could go wrong??

bigarms23

or try hutchisen beadlock company they are one of the few that offer street legal beadlocks
88 4runner 2016 5.3 auto atlas 2 on tons and tons of fun

jimbo74

Quote from: bigarms23 on March 25, 2008, 11:23:16 AM
or try hutchisen beadlock company they are one of the few that offer street legal beadlocks

beadlocks are legal.... there is no law that states they are illegal
:usa:

The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it. And one path we shall never choose, and that is the path of surrender, or submission.

~ John F. Kennedy ~

DTB

Quote from: jimbo74 on March 25, 2008, 11:51:33 AM
beadlocks are legal.... there is no law that states they are illegal
doesnt a wheel have to be DOT approved to pass inspection?
RIP KYOTA
Quotetoyminator2000 – There has to be dumb people in order for there to be smart people
Low down & durrrrrrty Rock Stacking Web Wheeler :driving: Too many Yuppies..:shake:...Not enough Hippies :flamer:  Hobbies: stealing cookies, slangin' tacos, owning tequila bars, wheeling with paco

jimbo74

Quote from: DirToyBoy on March 25, 2008, 11:52:28 AM
doesnt a wheel have to be DOT approved to pass inspection?

and where does DOT say that they are illegal?
:usa:

The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it. And one path we shall never choose, and that is the path of surrender, or submission.

~ John F. Kennedy ~

WHITE_TRASH

Modification to a DOT approved wheel voids that certification.  So yea, welding a beadlock to it voids it Im pretty sure. :hahaha:  Although I have yet to find an officer that can find that nugget to give a ticket. ;)
Full hydro, 186:1 with an auto and 44's what could go wrong??

BruceTS

Beadlocks are not Illegal, just that there is no law that says they are legal. DOT standard only adresses the rim profile, as long as that remains the same, then they are legal. Now with that said I have my stock Toyota rims with OMF beadlocks, rim profile hasn't been modified, just how the tire mounts, so technically my rim is still DOT approved.......

As for here in Cali, no CHP will cite you for beadlocks, every officer that I have spoken with, says there is no law that states they are illegal. I've been driving on mine since 2004 and have never lost a bolt or have ever had one come loose. Actually they are safer since you can run on a flat without worry of the tire comming off the rim..... As for balancing I just use dynabeads.
99 SR5 4Runner Highlander 5spd V6 4WD e-locker
Myspace
1GR-FE 4.0L V-6 & RA60F 6-speed for my project vehicle


Don't Ask when I'm gonna go SAS, I'm not... I'll build a buggy first!

KDXSR5

He is in Wyoming, no need to worry about inspections or legality here. Just get some weld on ones, or do the Stauns. I am doing Stauns eventually. Nice to see you here. :welcome:

Duffil

the thing with beadlocks is this: do you really need them? honestly, how many times have you lost a bead?  I've never lost one, i've had a slow leak once while in the snow at 8psi...I have never been wheeling and had somebody blow one...except on a bone stock 00 grand cherokee. to me, it's not worth the investment.

Gittinit

Quote from: Duffil on March 25, 2008, 11:54:55 PM
the thing with beadlocks is this: do you really need them? honestly, how many times have you lost a bead?  I've never lost one, i've had a slow leak once while in the snow at 8psi...I have never been wheeling and had somebody blow one...except on a bone stock 00 grand cherokee. to me, it's not worth the investment.
Good point. I never lost a bead after going to 36x13.5 on my 8" rims. I did get small pebbles between the bead, and the rim, on numerous occasions, which caused my tires to loose air pressure.  I also scrubbed the outer surface of my rim up pretty good on the rocks in hotsprings, whiched caused a verry razor sharp edge. I'm Glad I wasn't driving my rig to and from the trails.

A air source on my rig might have been a better investment. :dunno:
Hug your kids, pray for a soldier, and don't sweat the small stuff.

my favorite places:
http://www.flatnasty.net/
http://www.orvpark.com/

– fortysixandtwo – sorry, i prefer marlin because aside from gittinit, no one is a know it all a hole

RCKSQRL

Quote from: Duffil on March 25, 2008, 11:54:55 PM
the thing with beadlocks is this: do you really need them? honestly, how many times have you lost a bead?  I've never lost one, i've had a slow leak once while in the snow at 8psi...I have never been wheeling and had somebody blow one...except on a bone stock 00 grand cherokee. to me, it's not worth the investment.

x2

I have gone round and round with this one. As a fellow DD/wheeling rig I never go down far enough to loose a bead. (only one I lost the tire was slashed already and I kept going) I usually am down around 10psi on the rocks with 37's on 15 x 8 rims and dont have an issue. I am going to invest my money elsewhere unless it becomes a trail rig only which I have a hard time imagining.
just my thoughts
'85 EFI Runner
4.3 with 700R4- for sale
5.29 detroit F/R
Front 3 Link with air shocks
rear 4 Link
Custom Fuel cell
8274
Crawler #719, rear with 4.70 # 677,
Twin stick
Skys manufacturing T-case crossmember

6 point cage modified with harness bar, dash bar and PRP seats mounted to cage
2 feet chopped off the back

It seems it is never done........

in works for new body and exo, motor and trans swap...

yotaoffroad44

ya i looked up some beadlocks and they wanted $250 a rim! i think i would rather save up and get a sas kit

bigarms23

you can also buy a diy beadlock kit from copperhead fab they sell them for $45 a wheel
88 4runner 2016 5.3 auto atlas 2 on tons and tons of fun

Plekto

Or you could *gasp* run tubes.

844x4

Maybe this is a stupid question but here goes....
Running a bead lock only lockss the outer bead right?  What keeps you from poppong the inner bead off?  I have always wondered this....
I was also thinking about the weld-on locks, but thought it might be hard to get the wheels balanced, especially if they aren't centered perfectly.
It takes a long time to achieve "instant" success.

WHITE_TRASH

Look at a wheel closely the inner bead is a bit bigger than the outter so the tire has an easier time making it over that  side of the wheel.  That holds the inner on much better.

Just make sure the tires are centered, drop in a couple shots of bb's and don't look back.
Full hydro, 186:1 with an auto and 44's what could go wrong??

BruceTS

Quote from: Duffil on March 25, 2008, 11:54:55 PM
the thing with beadlocks is this: do you really need them? honestly, how many times have you lost a bead?  I've never lost one, i've had a slow leak once while in the snow at 8psi...I have never been wheeling and had somebody blow one...except on a bone stock 00 grand cherokee. to me, it's not worth the investment.

Personally I have never lost one, but I do run beadlocks. Now for others that I have wheeled with, I have seen a half dozen lose a bead. Big Mike debeaded 2 tires on the Rubicon a few years back. Another thing I've seen is the tire slipping on the rim, throwing the balance off, so do you really need them?   Another thing to consider is they do a great job protecting the rim and valve stem.....

As for balancing, my rims run true and have never taken much weight, I ended up going with Dynabeads because I kept losing wheel weights.
99 SR5 4Runner Highlander 5spd V6 4WD e-locker
Myspace
1GR-FE 4.0L V-6 & RA60F 6-speed for my project vehicle


Don't Ask when I'm gonna go SAS, I'm not... I'll build a buggy first!

abnormaltoy

And just like anything...an ounce or prevention is worth a pound of cure. Why do people put roll cages on when most have never rolled.
The things that come to those who wait, may be the things left by those who got there first.

I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.
-- Winston Churchill

Censorship, that most subtle tool of oppression, the tool of the fearful and small minded. 8/15/2008

"It is interesting that we are asked to NOT judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics. Too bad gun owners can't get same judgment."
Travis Tritt (I know!)

WHITE_TRASH

I wheeled harder before I got a cage..... :hahaha:
Full hydro, 186:1 with an auto and 44's what could go wrong??