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there's no reason to spend hundreds of thousands or millions on engineering and r&d for an engine for something that's still up in the air. Leave that to the big 3
toyminator2000 – There has to be dumb people in order for there to be smart people
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mild tuneing from any of their competition (gm ford dodge) puts them around 800-850ft/lbs of torque. toyota still has work to do to be competative.
How do you figure that :edit: 200 ft lbs would be a mild tuning dude? the biggest chip that edge puts out for cummins gives it 100 hp and 250 ft lbs. really toyotas not that far behind in power only 50 hp and 50 ft lbs difference.
I think what he was saying is that even with the best chip you will barley be able to squeeze 800 ft. lb of torque out of any of the big 3 diesels, the stock ratings from Toyota are pretty good ( if that motor is the one they stick with, if they even produce this truck) and not far behind the big 3. With all the problems ford is having with powerstroke ( both with the 6.0 and with the fact that they may not be using a powerstroke anylonger) and the Isuzu...whoops i mean the Chevy having its share of issues, if Toyota could produce a reliable , which is what they are know for, diesel with comparable hp and torque (even a little less) and make sure it was strong enough for use as a 1 ton, i think a lot of people would jump at it. As far as the programmers and tuning go, i am sure that if Toyota comes out with something the aftermarket will not be far behind!just my
All I have to say is: TOYOTA ROCKS and that tundra kicks ace
heard many complaints about the bed and tailgate though being made of too thin of material and being damaged from the weight of even a 350cc 4wheeler.
They still have a little ways to go. I saw a frame strength test, and a handling test and it was a ways behind the american trucks. But if they beef up the frame it would solve most of these problems..
Ya that's the one... they have quite a few demonstrations like that but i'm thinking that's kind of a ford bias test done there. Now the bed bounce is a real issue that is just plain nasty how bad the tundra bed jumps. I think they'll be changing that one in the near future
very ford biased test, notice the speed they selected for the rough road test at 28mph. any, and i mean any pickup bed at a certain speed will bounce like that.
You say its bias cause ford sponcered it? They all tested the same peramiters and conditions. I am sure there are areas that it does better also, no doubt about it, all the trucks have their advantages and disadvantages
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