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Originally posted by wcialrlterMC07-19114.7 gears...where's the number?Will Carter - Boone, NC
Originally posted by Chris GeigerIf you order the gears directly from Marlin Crawler the gear number is etched into the gears if the gear set is loose. If the gear set is installed, the number is found on hte bottom of the case. Genuine Marlin Crawler gears come with the bearings pressed on and include a Marlin shift knob. One particular vendor is selling gears using our name. These are not our gears and do not come numbered.
Originally posted by Booger Weldzcrawler adapters (678) and (213x)4.7:1 gearset (575)whats the x mean???
Originally posted by Chris GeigerEach time a case comes back to the shop it gets an X next to the number.
Originally posted by 4RnrRick--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Originally posted by Chris Geiger .... One particular vendor is selling gears using our name. These are not our gears and do not come numbered. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------That "particluar" Vendor would be All-Pro I presume. I know this because thats where I got mine 4.7 'marlin gears' before Marlin matched All-Pro's reduced price! Doh..... And they where not stamped in anyway so I knew they didn't go thru Marlins hands. Chris but I did somehow did get a Marlin knob from All-Pro ?? Actually I got two knobs from them but I didn't mind because when I bought my Crawler from Marlin, it was before they were a standard issue part with a crawler.
Originally posted by PookSame with me bought my set from allpro....the marlin 4.7 and aa adapter deal....no bearings pressed on...but i did get marlin shifter knob. So these aren't the marlin gears? or are they the same gears just bought directly from the manafacture instead of through marlin?
Originally posted by 4RnrRickI guess they are the same gears that Marlin help design to make better but All-Pro is not getting them directly from Marlin so Marlin doesn't get any profit from it is how I understand it from my research and 'hear say'.
Originally posted by Pookhmmmm, so marlin doesn't have any contracts or agreements with his gear cutters to stop this from happening? Pretty shitty of all pro to go around him, but I guess you can't blame them if marlin didn't protect his investment. But i am sorta POed at allpro for selling them as "marlin crawler gears" I thought I was supporting marlin in a way and getting a good deal at the same time.How can they legally use his name?
Originally posted by Mike BundrantThe gears All-Pro sells are the exact same gears from the same manufacturer that Marlin buys from. The manufacturer contacted All-Pro and asked us to distribute the gears after Marlin had a hard time paying his bills and informed them that he was planning to close his business. Turned out that Marlin found a way to survive, but only after All-Pro had contracted for a year's supply of gears. At the time Chris Geiger was still employed at All-Pro. He was very excited at all this and suggested we call them "Pro Crawlers", and lower the price as he was sure that this strategy would seal Marlin's fate (don't deny it, Chris!:0). Well, Marlin came to Hemet and had a pow-wow with Jon, asking Jon to use the name Marlin Crawler. He also insisted that we include his shift knob in each kit...which we did. They also agreed on other cooperative efforts All-Pro/Marlin Crawler might engage in...all of which failed...for reasons that I am sure each side feels smugly justified are the other's fault!Chris called me yesterday and now wants us to stop using the name Marlin Crawler....no prob...now we sell "Pro Crawlers", but they are the same gears. Marlin offers them packaged in different ways....engraved with a number plus his shift knob...very cool stuff if you're into it.I'm not trying to sound like All-Pro isn't, or never wanted to compete with Marlin...we are and we do! We'll keep on selling these gears under our name and going head to head with competitors...That's the story from where I sit.
Originally posted by Marlin CrawlerIn 95' I began to work on a lower gear set for the Toy t/case but could not find a gear cutter that would help me with my invention untill I spoke to AA's gear cutter in Iowa. After having around 350 gear sets made, I felt I needed to address some issues [popping out of gear, loose hubs, runout, broken inputs, ect] and AA,s gear cutter was not capable of making the necessary inprovements. I chose to go to the orginal manufacture who was well equipped to meet my requirements. I did this fully aware that AA would have their gear cutter continue with my outdated design.My new gears have been very succesful and are my design. Orginally, I entered into a contact with All Pro to market my gears and use my numbers and knobs.I became so busy, that I quit wheeling and just worked 7 days a week. I tried and tried with no sucess to find a reliable shop manager. When I released the Land Cruiser dual case [Toy Box] I was put in a very tight financial position. Due to my desicions, I was forced into looking at all the options for the furture of my business.It was at this time that my importer, [who I introduced in the beginning to All Pro] offered my gears directly to them without my knowledge. I did not approve of this arrangement but realize why All Pro will not let go of my gears. There are businesses that invent product and others who copy........ Since I was given the opportunely to hire my new manager, Chris Geiger, [who I also introduced to Jon at All Pro], we have had to add 2 additional phone lines, and hire 2 more employes! We are deep in the black and shipping out two times a day!This current arrangement has finally given me the opportunely to greatly expand my business and venture into areas where I was unable to go before. Look for more products from Marlin Crawler designed to build a complete truck with one stop shopping. Quote
Quote from: mudguts on Mar 30, 2004, 08:03:31 PMHey there, I have invoice#11458 from 11-16-1995. The invoice says it's for units #19 and #20, these were purchased by my uncle, and installed in his 85 pu and my 84 4Rnr, "which was owned by my cousin "Ranger Russ" at the time". Are these units stamped with there serial #'s?.If they are, where would I find it? Thanks, John in Coalinga Ca.Wow I dont know for sure with a # that early. Impressive to see they are still in service. If they are stamped, then it should be on the drivers side of the first housing (reduction housing) stamped vertically.BigMike
Hey there, I have invoice#11458 from 11-16-1995. The invoice says it's for units #19 and #20, these were purchased by my uncle, and installed in his 85 pu and my 84 4Rnr, "which was owned by my cousin "Ranger Russ" at the time". Are these units stamped with there serial #'s?.If they are, where would I find it? Thanks, John in Coalinga Ca.
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