Author Topic: NEED HELP IMMEDIATELY!!!! (now with video of the problem) (Read 4422 times)

MiniSimp · « **on:** May 25, 2007, 07:13:12 PM »

My truck is acting up bad. Perfect timing also, gone all day Saturday, Wheeling on Sunday. Gotta fix it tonight.

Symptoms:
Had a dead battery that would not hold a charge.
Bought a new battery, starts ok, not great, but ok.

When easing up the throttle I hit 4000rpms just fine, going real easy and gradual on the pedal.
When flooring it, it cuts out and just sits and sputter at 1000rpms kinda like it is getting spark on 1 of every 4

WTF is the problem!!!!???

HELP!

Wife says it's the alternator...any other opinions?

I'll be back online around 8:30pm to answer any questions, or something I have not covered.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #1 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:15:11 PM »

coil/ignitor taking a crap

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #2 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:16:34 PM »

I'm with Mrs. Mini.

Willy Mammoth · « **Reply #3 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:22:08 PM »

Check under the dist cap see any mosture or carbon tracks. Is there a botton in the middle of the cap?

Wot Glen said. Pickup or worn dist. Some body made plug wires out of vacuum lines?

Hope you figure it out.

jimbo74 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:31:33 PM »

when my ignitor died, it did it with no warning......

my friends truck did the sputter thing awhiel ago when his maf had some frayed wires in the harness

not sure about the battery issues, otehr than possibly bad grounds or a short

not holding a charge usually means the battery was charged discharged so much that it finally threw in the towel.... how is your charging system?

Duffil · « **Reply #5 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:43:24 PM »

just for shits and grins, jumper your diagnostic plug. See if it throws a code. Trouble cranking...how are your grounds?

also, put a meter across your battery with it running, and check the voltage. don't throw parts at it.

TurtleTappers91 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 25, 2007, 08:01:41 PM »

battery cables good/clean/tight,etc?
Bad cables /grounds caused the same symptoms in my truck....

MiniSimp · « **Reply #7 on:** May 25, 2007, 08:28:41 PM »

Quote from: 79coyotefrg on May 25, 2007, 07:15:11 PM

coil/ignitor

How do I test this?

Quote from: MiniSimp on May 25, 2007, 07:13:12 PM

Wife says it's the alternator

How do I test this?

Quote from: Willy Mammoth on May 25, 2007, 07:22:08 PM

Check under the dist cap see any mosture or carbon tracks.

I'll Check

Quote from: Captain4x2 on May 25, 2007, 07:31:33 PM

possibly bad grounds or a short

I'll Check

Quote from: Duffil on May 25, 2007, 07:43:24 PM

just for shits and grins, jumper your diagnostic plug. See if it throws a code.

Ok, I forget how to do that, but I'm pretty sure it involves a P1000 tool.

Quote from: Duffil on May 25, 2007, 07:43:24 PM

Trouble cranking

Yes.

Quote from: Duffil on May 25, 2007, 07:43:24 PM

also, put a meter across your battery with it running, and check the voltage.

Don't have one

Quote from: Duffil on May 25, 2007, 07:43:24 PM

don't throw parts at it.

Too late.

Quote from: TurtleTappers91 on May 25, 2007, 08:01:41 PM

battery cables good/clean/tight,etc?
Bad cables /grounds caused the same symptoms in my truck....

I'll Check

*** YELLER *** · « **Reply #8 on:** May 25, 2007, 08:29:43 PM »

well now I see that MRS MINISIMP was RIGHT AGAIN

hehehe

its ok mini it happens to all of us now and again

Duffil · « **Reply #9 on:** May 25, 2007, 08:36:31 PM »

take a paper clip. there is a two prong round plug at the drivers side towards the front. stick the clip in, shorting the terminals and trun the key on. count flashes. the only way to test the alt is to put a meter on it. or use a testlight(this is done by having one person hold the light on the battery, and another start your POS. The light will dim and should then get brighter than it was with the truck off)crude, but it works. why do you not have a meter?

edit: you can do the reverse of my testlight idea, have it running, put the light on it, then kill the truck, light should dim.

MiniSimp · « **Reply #10 on:** May 25, 2007, 08:36:53 PM »

I do not see any ground wires going from the engine to the fire wall, where are they?

*** YELLER *** · « **Reply #11 on:** May 25, 2007, 08:43:03 PM »

Rex why dont you just go to MINIs and help him out its only 30 min away

Duffil · « **Reply #12 on:** May 25, 2007, 08:44:34 PM »

Quote from: oldyellercj on May 25, 2007, 08:43:03 PM

Rex why dont you just go to MINIs and help him out its only 30 min away

more like 45 in my rig...it'd be 930 when I got there...and I am low on fuel and cash. If my help is requested, I shall arrive, though.

MiniSimp · « **Reply #13 on:** May 25, 2007, 08:45:01 PM »

Code 7 ground wire on back of valve cover to fire wall is good, are there any others? Also WTF is code 7?

MiniSimp · « **Reply #14 on:** May 25, 2007, 08:46:12 PM »

Rex don't worry about it, thanks for the offer though.

Duffil · « **Reply #15 on:** May 25, 2007, 08:46:32 PM »

Quote from: MiniSimp on May 25, 2007, 08:45:01 PM

Code 7 ground wire on back of valve cover to fire wall is good, are there any others? Also WTF is code 7?

TPS!

Duffil · « **Reply #16 on:** May 25, 2007, 08:47:45 PM »

it could be out of adjustment...or it could have gone poo on you. If you don't get this figured out tonight, I will have my TPS test plug and a meter on hand sunday.

Duffil · « **Reply #17 on:** May 25, 2007, 08:48:40 PM »

Quote from: MiniSimp on May 25, 2007, 08:45:01 PM

Code 7 ground wire on back of valve cover to fire wall is good, are there any others? Also WTF is code 7?

yeah, you should have one that goes to the pass side of the block from the frame (and body?)

*** YELLER *** · « **Reply #18 on:** May 25, 2007, 08:48:55 PM »

Quote from: Duffil on May 25, 2007, 08:46:32 PM

TPS!

Wanna know what that is too

MiniSimp · « **Reply #19 on:** May 25, 2007, 08:54:43 PM »

Found another ground wire going from below the alternator to the pass side fender, from the engine mount to the pass fender.

MiniSimp · « **Reply #20 on:** May 25, 2007, 08:55:47 PM »

distributor is dry and yes it has a small button inside and the spring is working.

Duffil · « **Reply #21 on:** May 25, 2007, 08:57:24 PM »

Quote from: MiniSimp on May 25, 2007, 08:54:43 PM

Found another ground wire going from below the alternator to the pass side fender, from the engine mount to the pass fender.

OK, sounds like that is in order. could be the low battery voltage got your starter hot and it's now dragging. I would say, since it's code 7 your problem is your TPS...but you need to find out if it's charging.

any idea where your timing is? and if the dist bolt is tight?

MiniSimp · « **Reply #22 on:** May 25, 2007, 09:01:28 PM »

I also recently smashed my O2 wire while installing my shocks, could that be the problem?

Duffil · « **Reply #23 on:** May 25, 2007, 09:04:28 PM »

Quote from: MiniSimp on May 25, 2007, 09:01:28 PM

I also recently smashed my O2 wire while installing my shocks, could that be the problem?

yeah...I did some work on CrazyYota's truck...he threw about 10 codes, then the o2 wire fell apart. I soldered a new connector on and then it only threw a couple.

MiniSimp · « **Reply #24 on:** May 25, 2007, 09:10:27 PM »

Ok, I'm going to resplice that wire and see what happens.
Yeah, Rex, if you could bring your TPS crap if this doesn't work that would be great.
Back in 10

MiniSimp · « **Reply #25 on:** May 25, 2007, 09:11:22 PM »

Quote from: Duffil on May 25, 2007, 09:04:28 PM

I soldered a new connector on

What is this solder you speak of?

I'm using a #12 wire nut.

Duffil · « **Reply #26 on:** May 25, 2007, 09:26:49 PM »

Quote from: MiniSimp on May 25, 2007, 09:11:22 PM

What is this solder you speak of? I'm using a #12 wire nut.

remember to disco yer battery for a few seconds...

MiniSimp · « **Reply #27 on:** May 25, 2007, 09:29:32 PM »

Duffil · « **Reply #28 on:** May 25, 2007, 09:34:43 PM »

do you have anyway of checking your timing, and did you check to see the dissy hadn't rotated/bolt was tight? Starter sounds fine...good speed. real low idle, hard starting, code7...95% its yer tps. they are a finicky little b*std. sometimes the bolts can loosen up and it'll shift a little...

MiniSimp · « **Reply #29 on:** May 25, 2007, 09:39:05 PM »

Well, we'll have to check that when we get there.

Here is a video of the cut-out

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