Tip's for wheelin... And for Crawlin.....

[weirdtimes_7]

Ok, i don't know if this thread has been posted before, but here it is now.... I am going to MRC6, and I need tips on how to approach obsticals and what not...

I am not new to wheeling, but am alittle new to rock climbling, but any advise anyone can give to help me and anyone else out would be freaking awesome....

Post up peeps, post up tips and or anything to help!!!!

military_stang

[79coyotefrg]

keep your seatbelt on
drop the air pressure in your tires,   i like about 10 psi  since i dont have bead locks

[*** YELLER ***]

OK,    um go slow  be safe  and dont get hurt  try to keep most of your tires on the ground  at least two and if you cant then hold on    try to follow the rig in front of you and pick a good line one that will not damage your truck to much, are you open front and rear how much travel do you have in each corner and what size tires are ya gonna run and bring a tow strap so you dont possibly ruin someon elses, this is what I can think of right now but I'm sure somewone else will come up with some real tips fer ya hope to see ya there   

[weirdtimes_7]

How come so low?? Just to help have grip?

military_stang

[weirdtimes_7]

OK,    um go slow  be safe  and dont get hurt  try to keep most of your tires on the ground  at least two and if you cant then hold on    try to follow the rig in front of you and pick a good line one that will not damage your truck to much, are you open front and rear how much travel do you have in each corner and what size tires are ya gonna run and bring a tow strap so you dont possibly ruin someon elses, this is what I can think of right now but I'm sure somewone else will come up with some real tips fer ya hope to see ya there   

I am going to be runnin damn near stock. I am going to have my MC ceramic clutch and sliders on, and running 33's. I am going to be getting both a front and rear strap, i thinking of the elastic ARB strap's, i just don't know how much they are  ...

military_stang

[*** YELLER ***]

slow so ya dont break as much trying to climb over rocks, the skinney pedal is not your friend in rock crawling I.E.   MARLIN CRAWLER, like Glen said air down the tires and have fun, I run 15 - 20 lbs in my Jeep and I have 10 in rims and no bead locks

[rockcrawlinredneck]

The best tip I can give ya for a stock rig is, only take a couple shot's at an obsticale before you get strapped if there is a line of people behind you. I absolutely hate sitting behind some one that is not properly equipped for 2 hours while they try to make some line. If there is a line of people behind you, give up and get strapped up the obstacle.

Kevin

[DTB]

stay calm....there is nothing like the feeling you get when there is a group of people standing around (stock rigs are usually more fun to watch for me) yelling "get it! get it! floor it! get-r-dun!!" sure it gets your adrenaline pumping and is fun but thats when stuff starts breaking or you get into a nice predicament (im known for these lol)  so yea...slow...calm.....air tires down....if you are not sure about your line back up and re-evaluate or ask someone to spot. There is nothing wrong with asking for a spotter (unless they are clueless). Some say it damages pride but at least it wont damage your truck.

[DTB]

I am going to be getting both a front and rear strap, i thinking of the elastic ARB strap's, i just don't know how much they are  ...

why u need 2 straps?? ARB snatch straps are about 60 to 70 bucks...and like i said worth every penny

[lilbuddy]

keep your seatbelt on
drop the air pressure in your tires,   i like about 10 psi  since i dont have bead locks

I like 4 or 5 personally. No bead locks. Never lost a bead. Ive gone 2-3 in the snow and still never lost a bead.

[DTB]

I like 4 or 5 personally. No bead locks. Never lost a bead. Ive gone 2-3 in the snow and still never lost a bead.

depends on the tire and wheel combo...different tires and different width wheels hold beads better.....personally i wont go below 10 (usually run 11 or 12 psi) without an air source or spare

[lilbuddy]

depends on the tire and wheel combo...different tires and different width wheels hold beads better.....personally i wont go below 10 (usually run 11 or 12 psi) without an air source or spare

Agreed

Im running 37" MT/Rs on 15X10 Rock Crawlers...

[weirdtimes_7]

only take a couple shot's at an obsticale before you get strapped if there is a line of people behind you.
Kevin

I will only try like three time's before i get strapped, cause i wouldn't wanna wait in a rock newbie...

stay calm....there is nothing like the feeling you get when there is a group of people standing around (stock rigs are usually more fun to watch for me) yelling "get it! get it! floor it! get-r-dun!!" sure it gets your adrenaline pumping and is fun but thats when stuff starts breaking or you get into a nice predicament (im known for these lol)  so yea...slow...calm.....air tires down....if you are not sure about your line back up and re-evaluate or ask someone to spot. There is nothing wrong with asking for a spotter (unless they are clueless). Some say it damages pride but at least it wont damage your truck.

It ain't going to hurt any of my pride, i'm a man, and if i need help, i am more than willing to ask for it before i get myself or someone else hurt...

why u need 2 straps?? ARB snatch straps are about 60 to 70 bucks...and like i said worth every penny

So i can have one on the front and back so i don't have to constantly move it back and forth... plus, if one be a breakin, i have a backup..

Agreed

Im running 37" MT/Rs on 15X10 Rock Crawlers...

I'll only me runnin 33's on aluminum wheel's... i guess i will figure out what air pressure i like what whatnot...

Keep the suggestions and idea's comming peeps.. i am sure there are more peeps out there with questions, and this is the perfect place for anyone to ask...

military_stang

[Prismo]

I run 8 to 10psi in most situations on the trail. Down to 3 to5psi in snow. I am running 33's & aluminum 8" rims. The only trouble I had was the tires spinning on the rims at real low psi when they get wet. The last tires are glued to the rims with the snot they use at the tires shop. Helped stop the tires from slipping on the rims. Experiment with different tire pressures before you go. Every rim/tire combo is different.

[Gittinit]

I think your best bet would be to tag along with a like equipped rig. Follow them step for step and get the feel for how the truck handles in different situarions. Definately take it slow and don't ever get over cofident like me......"Ok what did I break this time". Be the guy with the toolls and the willingness to help fix others junk and you will be rewarded with all the help and insight you need. When approaching an obsticle others will tell you go this way or that. You should pick one to listen too and stay with that unless it dosen't work for you, then 1 take a strap, or 2 listen to someone else, but be careful becouse it is easy to get overwhelmed when a dozen people try to tell ya which way to go.

[TurtleTappers91]

I would think you almost need T-case gears to rock crawl. Without gearing you'r gonna be slippin the clutch and spinnin' the tires, rather than the slow and steady approach you need.
Am I right or no?
I am new to crawling rocks, not mudding and general wheeling, but rocks.
Hell, I could use a few pointers myself, I built a rock crawler and I want to use it for that.

[Tice]

keep your seatbelt on
drop the air pressure in your tires,   i like about 10 psi  since i dont have bead locks

10??  That street pressure!!!!    It does depend on tires and rims like DTB said. I run 39 in Irok's on an 8 inch reversed wheel at 1-2 pis in rear and 2-3 in front.  Never lost a bead, though now that I've said that I will

If you have a spotter listen to him/her.  

[DTB]

10??  That street pressure!!!!    It does depend on tires and rims like DTB said. I run 39 in Irok's on an 8 inch reversed wheel at 1-2 pis in rear and 2-3 in front.  Never lost a bead, though now that I've said that I will

If you have a spotter listen to him/her.  

I drive 10-12 psi on street all the time...just dont drive like a mad man

[rednk1980]

Watch the more experience drivers and do what they do, learn from your mistakes, and dont be afraid to get strapped, I run between 5-8 psi on the trail but in the snow sometimes down to 2-3 lbs i was running 33's on 15x8's never blew a bead due to tire pressure, but have becuase of being pulled sideways.

[TurtleTappers91]

I need on board air. I don't think the tornado is fast enough it will take forever to air up all 4 35's.
What OBA setups are y'all runnin?

[BLACKDOG]

Know your truck's limits. You have a near stock rig, and it is IFS.  Arguements on which is better aside, IFS  flexes differently than a SA, and you have to take that into account.  You can't just follow the rig in front of you (even though thats a good start) you have to think about what you're doing.  Listen to your spotter, they can see things you can't.  Start playing with your air pressure now, you'll figure out what you like the best

Carry a strap, be willing to help, don't hold up the trail, and you'll be good. 

[Rockcrawlintoy]

rev it til the valves float side step the clutch and steer that all u need to know. j/k just take your time and dont be afraid to ask for a tug. also if there is traffic behind you let them pass.

Drew

[Tool Pimp]

The best tip I can give ya for a stock rig is, only take a couple shot's at an obsticale before you get strapped if there is a line of people behind you. I absolutely hate sitting behind some one that is not properly equipped for 2 hours while they try to make some line. If there is a line of people behind you, give up and get strapped up the obstacle.


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[Rocksurfer]

If you are running 33's or smaller don't go below 15 psi, anything above that and then go to 10psi. You have to consider clearance too. Now if you are new to rockcrawling the best thing to do is find one person in your group that you can tell knows what he's doing. Have him spot you through so that you get a feel for traversing through a rockgarden, he will know your vehicle better than you do and where not to send you and get you stuck. Discuss with him before hand and when it comes time for a spotter make sure everyone else knows that he's your spotter. Watch him and only him, trust him, and if someone else gets involved your spotter should ask him/her to stop giving input. I have a handful of friends that I completely trust in this matter and when they tell me to turn I listen. Sure everyone misjudges on a line, but if you have a compitint spotter you can usually back out of that point and try another line. The most important part about using a spotter is paying complete attention to him and following his direction.

[DTB]

yea forgot about that too RS, decreasing air pressure will decrease your clearance too....could be an inch of more lower with 33s

[79coyotefrg]

10??  That street pressure!!!!    It does depend on tires and rims like DTB said. I run 39 in Irok's on an 8 inch reversed wheel at 1-2 pis in rear and 2-3 in front.  Never lost a bead, though now that I've said that I will

If you have a spotter listen to him/her.  

hello,  32-11.50  on 10 inch rim 

[Rocksurfer]

Also to your credit it is a lwb and will be more stable but will run out of clearance quicker, if you seriously want to do the 'con make sure to have at least a rear locker. The 'con is hard but you have many options and don't have to do all the nutzy stuff everyone shows. There are lots of alternate routes to avoid most of the severe challenge spots but there are a couple handfuls of obstacles that have to be tackled. As long as you don't mind smoking the clutch here & there and locking the rear you'll do fine.

[twistedtoy92]

yeah, if you still have IFS and no locker and im guessing the 1600 ceramic clutch? i run that and i have 30 inch BFG M/Ts on 8 inch steelies and 11-12 psi is as low as i'd take it with that set up.... your clutch foot is gonna be tired at the end of the day!!! just be smart and have fun!!! and gather up parts for a SAS!!!!!

[SACD_Runner]

Air down... be safe... drive slow... and have fun. the rest will follow in time. just remember you put sliders on for a reason, dont hesitate to scratch them up.

[Yota Up]

Military_stang:

Don't forget to take pictures.  Trust me, when the heat is on and you're in the middle of the best part of the trail - it's VERY likely that this very spot will be the only place you didn't take any pictures!  Don't let that happen.  I always regret it, but am too busy puckered to stop in the middle of a heart pounding experience.

Keep this in mind on side slopes(for rolling over).  If you start feeling tippy to the side while you're on a hill, turn the wheel toward the DOWNHILL area.  Just turn the wheel downhill, and gas.  This works in forward and reverse.  It may feel like a crazy thing to do, but it works.  Saved me twice(at least it felt like I would have rolled).