1st Gen. Toyota SAS (2wd to 4wd)In its new Parking Space

Started by inmyownsummerami, March 03, 2007, 07:35:26 PM

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86bobbedtoy

that might be a killer Idea. Remind me not to be in front of him.

inmyownsummerami

Quote from: 86bobbedtoy on July 08, 2007, 09:41:18 PM
Have you decided if you are going to boat side it?  Build looks great alot of progress.  Im also doing a flat belly, thats why the motor was lifted 3".
The boat sides are an almost definite go, I'm just waiting for Hunsaker to send me the correct driver seat so that I can start planing it all out.

Quote from: jimbo74 on July 08, 2007, 09:49:35 PM
are you going to cut the front spring hangars any? that sharp point out front will kill a slide angle and will get bashed up, and has the potential to seriosly injure someone
The front cross-member will be cut off this week so that I can fully weld it at work, and while its out I will cut the spring mounts to a radius slightly larger than the spring eyes.
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Duffil

1. How do you plan an filling your rear axle? Gonna put a fill plug on top?
2. Yea, those tires will rub.  Mine do I and have :pokinit: for flex.
3. Looking good...just keep the momentum going.

inmyownsummerami

#93
Quote from: Duffil on July 08, 2007, 10:51:48 PM
1. How do you plan an filling your rear axle? Gonna put a fill plug on top?
2. Yea, those tires will rub.  Mine do I and have :pokinit: for flex.
3. Looking good...just keep the momentum going.

1. The rear axle still has some work going into it.(along with everything else on the truck)
2. The tires wont rub, I've got a sawzall, an air-nibbler, a welder, and some really big hammers. :greengrin:
3. I don't know what thread you've been reading, but there sure as hell ain't no momentum in this build. :gap: I'm disappointed with my progress, I was planing to have it done by Memorial Day, but then my cousin planted all these ideas in my head, so progress has almost stopped as I have been planning all of the new stuff.
WHITE WHEEL ROCK CRAWLERS "If your wheels ain't white, they ain't right"
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RIP "Goody Goods" My DDW Brother

Duffil

Quote from: inmyownsummerami on July 08, 2007, 11:15:34 PM
1. The rear axlestill has some work going into it.(along with everything else on the truck)
2. The tires wont rub, I've got a sawzall, an air-nibbler, a welder, and some really big hammers. :greengrin:
3. I don't know what thread you've been reading, but there sure as hell ain't no momentum in this build. :gap: I'm disappointed with my progress, I was planing to have it done by Memorial Day, but then my cousin planted all these ideas in my head, so progress has almost stopped as I have been planning all of the new stuff.

I meant the rear tires.  You mentioned them above.

You have had momentum it seems over the weekend.

inmyownsummerami

Quote from: Duffil on July 08, 2007, 11:18:00 PM
I meant the rear tires.  You mentioned them above.

You have had momentum it seems over the weekend.
Ohh OK. I will probably order up some spacers after I get some more important stuff done.
Another thing I just thought about although it wouldn't really be worth the time or effort is narrowing the frame where the tires would rub. Doubt I would spend the time to do it, but figured I would throw the idea out there.
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RIP "Goody Goods" My DDW Brother

inmyownsummerami

Hunsaker finally sent me the correct driver's seat, but didn't send a return label to send back the cloth seat they sent at first, so I have to get ahold of them about that.
I picked up a complete IFS rear from 86bobbedtoy for spares.
A while back when I was welding up the diff that came in the axle I got from my cousin I dropped the carrier and FUBARed a bearing, so I ordered a set-up kit, and solid pinion spacer from  :turtle:. When I get done with all of the big parts of the project I'll set it up.
Monday night I removed the front tires and axle, and cut the front spring hanger off to bring to work and weld up. It's nice to be able to build :pokinit: at work, but it always seems like I don't get much done.
While I had the front suspension out I started planning out the boat sides. Check it out HERE, and leave any input you have.
WHITE WHEEL ROCK CRAWLERS "If your wheels ain't white, they ain't right"
:greengrin:My 1st Gen. Toyota SAS (2wd to 4wd) :greengrin: (In Progress)
RIP "Goody Goods" My DDW Brother

tyota90

hey Ill take that cloth seat if they dont ask for it

-bryan

inmyownsummerami

I know you would :disturbed: I contacted them yesterday about the shipping label, If they don't get back to me after a few tries, you can have it. You would just have to get sliders for it.
WHITE WHEEL ROCK CRAWLERS "If your wheels ain't white, they ain't right"
:greengrin:My 1st Gen. Toyota SAS (2wd to 4wd) :greengrin: (In Progress)
RIP "Goody Goods" My DDW Brother

tyota90

Hey,   :eyebrow: how about not trying to get ahold of them anymore and wait a short short while to see if they remember?

Or, even better, we work a deal (incase they don't respond) and I run that cloth :maddest: for now until they want it back or forget? :yesnod: :thumbs: :eyebrow:

tyota90

How about some pics of allll that progress you've mad since ???

Ha Ha if you get some crap done these next 2 days then I'll come over and together we can show SKIPPY :rofl:, and Kent :cheer:, how to get things done if you really want to go :driving:.

inmyownsummerami

Quote from: tyota90 on July 26, 2007, 12:40:03 AM
Hey,   :eyebrow: how about not trying to get ahold of them anymore and wait a short short while to see if they remember?

Or, even better, we work a deal (incase they don't respond) and I run that cloth :maddest: for now until they want it back or forget? :yesnod: :thumbs: :eyebrow:

Only if you are willing to pay for it if they wont take it back because it has been used. :yesnod:
Quote from: tyota90 on July 26, 2007, 12:52:50 AM
How about some pics of allll that progress you've mad since ???

Ha Ha if you get some crap done these next 2 days then I'll come over and together we can show SKIPPY :rofl:, and Kent :cheer:, how to get things done if you really want to go :driving:.

I'm heading into the backyard right now to cut some more :pokinit: off the frame, and prep to weld the front crossmember/spring hanger to the stock front crossmember. Hopefully tomarrow I will get some more spring clamping plates built. :dunno:
WHITE WHEEL ROCK CRAWLERS "If your wheels ain't white, they ain't right"
:greengrin:My 1st Gen. Toyota SAS (2wd to 4wd) :greengrin: (In Progress)
RIP "Goody Goods" My DDW Brother

inmyownsummerami

Didn't work on the truck much today, but the front spring hanger is ready to be welded in.



Yesterday at work I cut the points of the hanger and cleaned it up.



Once every thing is finalized I will weld some 1/4" plate between the tabs on each side to help keep them from wanting to bend when I beat the piss out of them. :gap:

I also cut the bottoms of the frame rails off under the stock front x-member so that there wouldn't be a gap between it and my x-member. Not really needed, but it looks cleaner when done. :yesnod:



I'm hoping to get the front hanger welded in tomorrow, and then I can get to work on recessing the shackle mounts into the frame(1/2 of bushing under frame, 1/2 in frame). Once that is done I have to cut the rear hangers off and cut slots in them over the spring eyes so that the spring bolt is holing the weight of the truck, and not the top of the eye.
WHITE WHEEL ROCK CRAWLERS "If your wheels ain't white, they ain't right"
:greengrin:My 1st Gen. Toyota SAS (2wd to 4wd) :greengrin: (In Progress)
RIP "Goody Goods" My DDW Brother

inmyownsummerami

Long day of working on the toy today with not a whole lot done, but at least we got something done.

First thing was welding the front spring hanger to the front crossmember.



We also finished building the front U-bolt elim. plates. They are still a little rough, but they will be cleaned up before they are fully welded





The plates are built out of 3/8" x 6" flatbar. Hardware is 5/8". To keep the top plate from folding down around the spring there will be 1/2" sched.40 pipe spacers between the plates. The I.D. of the pipe is very close to 5/8", the only thing keeping a bolt from going in it is the seam, just have to run a 5/8" bit through it. The plates that are welded to the perches will be gusseted to the axle tubes on all accessable sides.
WHITE WHEEL ROCK CRAWLERS "If your wheels ain't white, they ain't right"
:greengrin:My 1st Gen. Toyota SAS (2wd to 4wd) :greengrin: (In Progress)
RIP "Goody Goods" My DDW Brother

Duffil

PAGE 4!!!!  :gap:

just wondering about your brake backing plates...the 2wd has the cable coming backwards(by your pic...it might come forward) out of the plate to the bottom rear.  4wd plates have the cable hooked to an arm above the axle.  it might cause a problem hooking it up..I have a set of 4wd backing plates if you need them.

inmyownsummerami

Quote from: Duffil on July 28, 2007, 11:48:52 PM
PAGE 4!!!!  :gap:

just wondering about your brake backing plates...the 2wd has the cable coming backwards(by your pic...it might come forward) out of the plate to the bottom rear.  4wd plates have the cable hooked to an arm above the axle.  it might cause a problem hooking it up..I have a set of 4wd backing plates if you need them.

I'm not going to be using the 2wd axle, and I have no need for the cable e-brake. I've got 2 4wd IFS rears. I was just noting that the bearings and seals appeared to be the same between the 7.5" rear, and 8" rear. If someone needed bearing ends for alloy shafts they could probably use the 7.5" ends, and not have to disassemble their stock shafts in case they wanted them for spares.
WHITE WHEEL ROCK CRAWLERS "If your wheels ain't white, they ain't right"
:greengrin:My 1st Gen. Toyota SAS (2wd to 4wd) :greengrin: (In Progress)
RIP "Goody Goods" My DDW Brother

tyota90

You havent posted any pics for a while is that a good thing(gettn thigs done) or spending too much time dreaming of the day this old beater makes it onto a trailer for the trails and all the new things that you can add to it before hand? :smokin: :bananapc: :beer:

inmyownsummerami

#107
You know I don't get :pokinit: done unless you're over :gap:, and what are you talking about "old beater", its straighter than most trucks its age.
I picked up the hardware for the springs sunday, it came out to like $55 :yikes:. Then I went over to Brads to help bend some tube. Monday I was going to bolt up the springs, but wasted to much time trying to bolt up the exhaust before finding out that I have to slightly modify it. It hits the bottom of the cab before the flanges come together because of how far the engine is tilted forward for the flat belly :shake:. Then yesterday I found out that I have to go to Vegas Tomarrow night :(, so I wont be getting anything done until at least Monday.
WHITE WHEEL ROCK CRAWLERS "If your wheels ain't white, they ain't right"
:greengrin:My 1st Gen. Toyota SAS (2wd to 4wd) :greengrin: (In Progress)
RIP "Goody Goods" My DDW Brother

tyota90

What the hell. No progress pics since the first of this month. That is almost a month of... what :wall:? Changing build plans and not being able to decide on what to do :willynilly:? At least I know your free from yours and you can be productive and give me a hand :clap2:.

Maybe at least post progress pics of what you do during the time you aren't fabing.  :beer: :bananajumprope: :bananapc: :smoke: :boozer: :sleeping:

Anything would be great to keep an audience interest.

Anyways
Axles should be gone by 7:oo am Saturday morning. Had to pull them Friday morning and get all parts together for departure. Truck is now sitting on short ass stands and waitng for the real thing.
Probably get some work done during the weekend.

tyota90

Three guys showed at 6:45 am this morning, from vegas, and took all I had to offer :yesnod:. Loaded up into an Enterprise rental truck, and headed back about an hour later. Time to get serious an get my rig back onto the trailer before you pass me up. :shake:

86bobbedtoy

page 4 with no pics, whats wrong with you?   lol

82juguete

Whered you get those double shear shock mounts/ knuckle reinforcements for the front axle???  Those things look beef!

DTB

Quote from: 82juguete on August 25, 2007, 07:10:24 PM
Whered you get those double shear shock mounts/ knuckle reinforcements for the front axle???  Those things look beef!
trail gear
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inmyownsummerami

#113
Yep TG. I think they are the best of all the gusset/shock mounts available. They are heavy enough to be used as coil over or air-shock mounts if you wanted.
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RIP "Goody Goods" My DDW Brother

cgbemis

I took a look at your boat side thread, and I have to agree with one of the posters in that it won't actually protect a whole lot. On top of that, it looks like you are going to be pushing your rocksliders out beyond the body, essentially widening the cab. The potential gain is in the idea that you won't get hung up on all the stuff under the rocker panel. If you are going to go through with it, then at the very least, only push the rocksliders out as far as the outside face of the body.

Has anybody ever narrowed the entire cab before? It would be alot of work, but might gain you some of the same benefits.

inmyownsummerami

Quote from: cgbemis on September 01, 2007, 03:24:58 PM
I took a look at your boat side thread, and I have to agree with one of the posters in that it won't actually protect a whole lot. On top of that, it looks like you are going to be pushing your rocksliders out beyond the body, essentially widening the cab. The potential gain is in the idea that you won't get hung up on all the stuff under the rocker panel. If you are going to go through with it, then at the very least, only push the rocksliders out as far as the outside face of the body.

Has anybody ever narrowed the entire cab before? It would be alot of work, but might gain you some of the same benefits.

The idea with the boat side is not protection, but as I have said before, to end up with a continous angled surface from the rocker to the frame with nothing(or minimal) to hang up on. To protect the doors so that I can keep glass in them for snow trips, I will be using angle iron like 4RnrRick did on Quasimodo.
Yea the cab will be slightly wider, no more than about an inch per side(at the boat side), but the cab widens out a bit above where the slider will be(not much, maybe 1/2" or so, so it will really only be about 1/2" wider on each side overall ).
I have seen a narrowed cab. It looked neat, but you lose a lot of in cab space. With the seats that I have, if I were to narrow my cab they would almost touch, and would be in the way of my twin-stick. I don't want to lose any of the space I have, as it's not much to begin with.
WHITE WHEEL ROCK CRAWLERS "If your wheels ain't white, they ain't right"
:greengrin:My 1st Gen. Toyota SAS (2wd to 4wd) :greengrin: (In Progress)
RIP "Goody Goods" My DDW Brother

DTB

heres a pic of one of my favortie narrowed cabs..not sure if u have seen this..i guess marlin knows him



RIP KYOTA
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inmyownsummerami

Yep thats the one that I saw. I like it, but I don't know how anyone could stand being in a cab that small for any length of time. Their shoulders are almost touching.
WHITE WHEEL ROCK CRAWLERS "If your wheels ain't white, they ain't right"
:greengrin:My 1st Gen. Toyota SAS (2wd to 4wd) :greengrin: (In Progress)
RIP "Goody Goods" My DDW Brother

DTB

this guy on pirate just started boatsiding his junk too....hope im not clogging your thread up..just trying to help  :thumbs:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=609305
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cgbemis

Quote from: DirToyBoy on September 02, 2007, 04:59:19 PM
heres a pic of one of my favortie narrowed cabs..not sure if u have seen this..i guess marlin knows him





Anybody have a build-up thread on this? How did he go about doing this?