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Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« on: Dec 29, 2006, 05:47:07 PM »
how strong is this setup?  Looks like it could a cheap alternative for those of us who cant weld very well...if they dont break?  anyone running it? 

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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #1 on: Dec 29, 2006, 05:50:46 PM »
He has been selling those for quite a while and I have never heard of any problems.  Bud builds quality products.

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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #2 on: Dec 29, 2006, 05:55:04 PM »
you would think they are weak because it jsut uses muffler clamps, but its what i intend to do one day...

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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #3 on: Dec 29, 2006, 05:58:17 PM »
if i get a few more opinions like these i may have to order me up some of those..
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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #4 on: Dec 29, 2006, 06:43:39 PM »
as long as your shocks are not your bump stops you wont have any problems

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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #5 on: Dec 29, 2006, 07:22:55 PM »
just make your own. i have in the past i used a 1/4" plate and just used 2 shock studs. costs about 10 bucks and took me all of a half hour to make. i never had a problem and I beat the piss out of all my rigs.
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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #6 on: Dec 29, 2006, 08:06:37 PM »
as long as your shocks are not your bump stops you wont have any problems

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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #7 on: Dec 29, 2006, 08:10:06 PM »
is it neccesary to get some kind of anti-wrap bar if i remount the shocks in that way compared to stock?
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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #8 on: Dec 29, 2006, 08:37:41 PM »
Roger Brown (4crawler) has a similar setup and he's had great success with it.. i'd say its sturdy enough.

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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #9 on: Dec 29, 2006, 08:44:20 PM »
cool im gonna get some clamps and have at it next week
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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #10 on: Dec 30, 2006, 12:52:12 AM »
no need for a traction bar, unless you are getting a lot of axle wrap. changing the shocks will not affect that.
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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #11 on: Dec 30, 2006, 09:07:18 AM »
how will it affect body roll and sideways stability?
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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #12 on: Dec 30, 2006, 09:54:35 AM »
the closer your shocks are to a 45 degree angle the more bodyroll you will get. but it also depends on what shocks you plan on running. Some of the more quality shocks, will lessen the problem even at a 45 angle.  the way I look at it is, you cant have it all.  If you want good flex from springs and less shock angle resistance, you are going to have alittle bit more bodyroll. No bodyroll means probably a stiffer ride and possibly less travel. just my 2 cents
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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #13 on: Dec 30, 2006, 10:38:17 AM »
i have excesive body roll right now... but my rear springs hit my shocks when it gets flexed out....
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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #14 on: Dec 30, 2006, 10:50:19 AM »
but my rear springs hit my shocks when it gets flexed out....

how does that happen? im tryin to picture in my head how that is even possible... to help bodyroll i wouldn't make the top shock mounts close together. Mount the bottom mounts just inside the springs and the tops about 8" apart. try a stiffer shock or maybe adjustable shocks, stiffer on the road and then soften them up for wheelin
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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #15 on: Dec 30, 2006, 11:06:51 AM »
thats how the shock hits the springs...  :biggthumpup:
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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #16 on: Dec 30, 2006, 11:14:44 AM »
that sucks man... i would just angle them in more like i said but not at a 45. looks like you are running 5000s... try a different shock, i run those too and dont like them after my exo i have alot more bodyroll. im going to run the poly performance BBCS which are pretty pricy but hopfully I get what i pay for. they are valved more for rockcrawling and the built-in bump stop is nice too.
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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #17 on: Dec 30, 2006, 11:18:53 AM »
im pretty sure those are just crappy procomps..
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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #18 on: Jan 20, 2007, 07:30:09 PM »
get rid of those blocks...thats part of your problem
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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #19 on: Jan 23, 2007, 06:34:40 AM »
ewwwww big blocks and looooong u bolts... looks like a recipt for disaster to me. back in my mini days, I had a block break, caused all kinds a hell.

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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #20 on: Jan 24, 2007, 09:51:07 AM »
how long of shackles would i have to get to make up for the 4" blocks..
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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #21 on: Jan 24, 2007, 10:32:12 AM »
I've never seen this product until now.

It is a good idea because it is an original product. For that I praise it. But otherwise, I really don't like bolt on equipment like that. I think I would order the kit without the little u-bolts and just weld the plates in place like they should be.

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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #22 on: Jan 24, 2007, 12:03:39 PM »
Is the stock round tube that you bolt that to strong enough to mount the shocks to it??  Just curious since I will be traveling down that road in a couple of weeks.
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Re: Bud Built rear shock relocators strength?
« Reply #23 on: Jan 24, 2007, 03:44:36 PM »
Well, on a first gen Hilux, the round tube that support the gas tank (like your 4Runner) also doubles as upper shock mounts.
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