20r head on 22r motor

Started by yota_krawler, October 13, 2006, 01:02:58 PM

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yota_krawler

has anyone done a 20r head on a 22r motor and if so does it do anything for you? I had someone tell me that it give more power and compression. I was just wondering.
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TRHS1980

There's tons of info on the mod if you look around the board. Here's a link that might help...

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php/topic,27651.0.html

What I can personally tell you is that the 20R head has a hemispherical combustion chamber (it's a hemi) so it flows real nice making usable power up to 6000 RPM. It also has a smaller combustion chamber meaning it'll up the compression a bit. You're going to lose a bit of low end torque, but for a daily driver it's nice to have the stronger top end. Throw some O/S valves in there and a mild came and your well on your way to an R series motor that can actually get out of it's own way. If you ever plan on going EFI then this mod is not for you, since the FI intake won't bolt onto a 20R head. Also, I wouldn't use the stock 20R carb. Go with at the minimum a 22R carb, or better yet, a weber 32/36.
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kneedownnate

Our search function doesn't work very well usually, but if you just look at the thread titles and check the ones that look like they may cover it you'll find TONS of threads on this.  You can also check this thread for some good info on hybrids, http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php/topic,5628.0.html

With only a stock 20r head on a stock 22r bottom you won't gain too much.  Warm up the head a little though and it'll give good gains.  It's really a matter of how much you wanna dump into it.

I can personally tell you that going from stock 22r to slapping on a stock 20r head made my engine more usable and stronger everywhere.  I'm currently replacing a headgasket and will be dropping in a slightly bigger cam, but will be building another hybrid with big valves and port work in the near future.
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4inchToyotas

Plenty of people here have done this. Just make sure you're using the "early" block and you'll save some time and effort. If you have any specific questions go ahead and ask. We need to get a 20/22r FAQ/writeup going, so maybe this could help others too.
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79coyotefrg

AR-TTORA founder 22R bored.060,LCE stage II race cam http://pure-gas.org/    32/36weber, :driving: Marlin 1200 NON ceramic clutch, L52SHD+dualcase #2919, cable-locker, Yukon 5.29 gears, 35's, Allpro ebrake, front springs, and high steer, F150rears    RIP Nitro 9-29-07 :(  I sure miss him :down: MarlinCrawlerInc IS NOT affiliated with TrailGear in any way

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4inchToyotas

Anyone got any pictures of when they did theirs? I know it's not difficult to explain. Just that some people may want to see the deiiferences.
2006 Tundra DC 4x4 - DD/Tow (if I can ever find a place to store a trailer)
1983 Hilux - 20/22r Weber 32/36 carb, 4" ProComp suspension, 5.29's Lockrite Front, Spool rear, 34x10.50x15 LTBs

79coyotefrg

take everything from a 20R  and put it on the 22R block :thumbs:
AR-TTORA founder 22R bored.060,LCE stage II race cam http://pure-gas.org/    32/36weber, :driving: Marlin 1200 NON ceramic clutch, L52SHD+dualcase #2919, cable-locker, Yukon 5.29 gears, 35's, Allpro ebrake, front springs, and high steer, F150rears    RIP Nitro 9-29-07 :(  I sure miss him :down: MarlinCrawlerInc IS NOT affiliated with TrailGear in any way

79coyotefrg

well,  almost   use the 22R rockers,  and 22R exhaust  if you dont have the :bling: for a header
AR-TTORA founder 22R bored.060,LCE stage II race cam http://pure-gas.org/    32/36weber, :driving: Marlin 1200 NON ceramic clutch, L52SHD+dualcase #2919, cable-locker, Yukon 5.29 gears, 35's, Allpro ebrake, front springs, and high steer, F150rears    RIP Nitro 9-29-07 :(  I sure miss him :down: MarlinCrawlerInc IS NOT affiliated with TrailGear in any way

4inchToyotas

I'll try to search for the pictures...hopefully to get fewer inquiries into this.
2006 Tundra DC 4x4 - DD/Tow (if I can ever find a place to store a trailer)
1983 Hilux - 20/22r Weber 32/36 carb, 4" ProComp suspension, 5.29's Lockrite Front, Spool rear, 34x10.50x15 LTBs

79coyotefrg

i didnt have a digi  when i did mine  :down:
AR-TTORA founder 22R bored.060,LCE stage II race cam http://pure-gas.org/    32/36weber, :driving: Marlin 1200 NON ceramic clutch, L52SHD+dualcase #2919, cable-locker, Yukon 5.29 gears, 35's, Allpro ebrake, front springs, and high steer, F150rears    RIP Nitro 9-29-07 :(  I sure miss him :down: MarlinCrawlerInc IS NOT affiliated with TrailGear in any way

4inchToyotas

yeah..and mine was built for me. I was just thinking of showing the different piston tops etc. obviously the head desgin (intake)
2006 Tundra DC 4x4 - DD/Tow (if I can ever find a place to store a trailer)
1983 Hilux - 20/22r Weber 32/36 carb, 4" ProComp suspension, 5.29's Lockrite Front, Spool rear, 34x10.50x15 LTBs