Author Topic: 22RTE swap and rebuild (Read 10685 times)

Bones · « **on:** Jan 23, 2004, 07:35:46 AM »

Got me a complete Turbo motor harness, computer, radiator, AFM for $200 in unknown condition (been sitting 2 years)

Plans are to replace the gaskets, water and oil pump as well as a good timing chain setup with metal guides. Also plan to have the head check out as well. I know to use a Toyota head gasket and ARP studs and I will. Not looking to go hog wild with it and go for max boost and swap turbos. Hoping the CT20 is still good.

Hoping to keep it under a grand so I have $800 left to spend. I can recoop a lot of that cost after I rebuild it and sell my current 22RE with 30K on full rebuild.

What else should I do while it's open (that's cheap to free) as well as have checked out by a pro.

Wish in one hand and....

mr4x42u · « **Reply #1 on:** Jan 24, 2004, 10:40:43 AM »

I would pull the rods and main bearing and check them out..If they look good maybe throw ne rings rods and main bearings in it..I'm sure once you got it apart you will notice if its going to be worth saving it or not or just do a total rebuild...You could sell it to me

Marlin · « **Reply #2 on:** Jan 25, 2004, 06:05:56 PM »

I would check the oil pump for wear first. The turbo uses a special oil pump with 30%? more volumne. I has been unable to locate these pumps except from the dealer. They are priceeeey. Check those plastic chain guides.
Look for cylinder head cracks between the smaller exhaust valve seat and the closest water port.

Marlin

Bones · « **Reply #3 on:** Jan 26, 2004, 05:45:03 AM »

Quote from: Marlin on Jan 25, 2004, 06:05:56 PM

I would check the oil pump for wear first. The turbo uses a special oil pump with 30%? more volumne. I has been unable to locate these pumps except from the dealer. They are priceeeey. Check those plastic chain guides.
Look for cylinder head cracks between the smaller exhaust valve seat and the closest water port.

Marlin

Thanks, The guides and oil pump will be replaced while I am in there. Head will get checked out for cracks or warping as well. More of less I will probably end up rebuilding it, since that's the way I am.

foxfab · « **Reply #4 on:** Jan 26, 2004, 10:27:08 AM »

you can get turbo oil pumps from engnbldr.com as well as metal backed timing kits. I am running both in my 22RE. Also, if you do find that the head is bad, put an 85-87 22RE head on which will boost compression to 8.5:1 for a little more power. engnbldr. has these too. New castings, not rebuilt.

brainlessfool · « **Reply #5 on:** Jan 26, 2004, 01:16:24 PM »

engblider.com, now ya tell me!

84runner · « **Reply #6 on:** Jan 26, 2004, 08:56:06 PM »

Pull the head and see what kind of lip there is at the top of the cylinder, if there is one. Then check for scoring in the cyclinders where the rings might stick. Then check the bearings for copper. That is what I would look at. Then if it all looks good I would still rering it just cuase its been sitting for 2 years, with a quick hone job. And if you put it all together and it don't have that good of oil pressure you can put new bearings in just by pulling the pan

Marlin · « **Reply #7 on:** Jan 26, 2004, 10:28:46 PM »

Quote from: foxfab on Jan 26, 2004, 10:27:08 AM

you can get turbo oil pumps from engnbldr.com as well as metal backed timing kits. I am running both in my 22RE. Also, if you do find that the head is bad, put an 85-87 22RE head on which will boost compression to 8.5:1 for a little more power. engnbldr. has these too. New castings, not rebuilt.

I have gotten aftermarket turbo oil pumps just to find out that it was a non turbo pump since they will both bolt to the timing cover.
A true turbo pump will have oversize gears and two oil vent holes in the housing.
I have always used the factory ASCO pumps.
I have also installed 85-95' 22R heads to bump the compression. It is a great upgrade!

Marlin

mr4x42u · « **Reply #8 on:** Jan 27, 2004, 01:20:58 AM »

engnbldr sells some great stuff and alot cheaper then most everywhere else..I would have to agree with marlin..If you don't know for sure why take a chance..Few buck now or alot more bucks later..Hey marlin,,how much difference does the head swap make compression wise? $Beer Chug\'n$

Marlin · « **Reply #9 on:** Jan 27, 2004, 06:27:39 PM »

86-87' 22R-TE are listed at 7.5:1 CR and I think the smaller chamber non turbo head bumps the CR to 8.5:1?
Since all 85-95' heads are double drilled for both non turbo, and turbo exhaust mainafolds, it is a straight bolt on improvement.

Toyoballs · « **Reply #10 on:** Jan 27, 2004, 07:50:08 PM »

Thanks for the head info Marlin, I'm going to pull the head off of my 86 turbo truck - blowen head gasket

- and I have a good 86 non turbo head I'll use if the original one is cracked. My local machinest said that he has a special boring tool to convert a non turbo head to a turbo head. But I like your idea MUCH better

. Once it warms up around here I'll get back to work on it - fingers don't work outside in 15 deg. and my crawler is all apart in the heated shop

Marlin · « **Reply #11 on:** Jan 27, 2004, 09:07:54 PM »

I also have a boring attachment for my mill to reduce the compression raito, however, unless you live in a 120 degree desert, the non turbo head does great-just buy good fuel, and dont sit on the gas pedal everwhere you go and the engine will do great!

Marlin

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #12 on:** Jan 27, 2004, 09:14:20 PM »

Just a thought has anyone tried intercooling one of these? With an intercooler you could open up all kinds of possibilities. What are the odds that you could use water/alcohol injection?

mr4x42u · « **Reply #13 on:** Jan 28, 2004, 12:26:07 AM »

I don't know about water or alcohol but alot of them are intercooled and its a pretty easy upgrade..T-bird inter coolers work great..There are alot of intercoolers you could use depending on where you want to mount it..I have seen them mounted up front of the rad and I mounted one for a friend on top of his motor and used a hood scoop to draw air through..Its a kick ass upgrade and pretty cheap to boot! :yupyup:FOSHO a must do..for what it cost how con one not do it?Intercoolers go cheap on e-bay..

Bones · « **Reply #14 on:** Jan 30, 2004, 03:52:51 AM »

Got a set of ARP head bolts and a metal head gasket from LC eng. coming for half price and yes....they are new $Beer Chug\'n$

4RunnerRedneck · « **Reply #15 on:** Feb 01, 2004, 06:31:12 PM »

what is a good price to pay for a Air to Water Innercooler

like the celica ones,?

$100.00 ?

or use the air to water innercooler I already have off:

the top mount TURBO RX-7 late 80's to early 90's maybe ?

1' sq x 1' sq maybe .in size.
Oh*** and how do i run water to the inner cooler.

and were do i buy one ?

Thanks to you all, for any, and all HELP-FULL INFO,

84runner · « **Reply #16 on:** Feb 01, 2004, 11:09:21 PM »

Big Mike would be a good guy to hit up about that price for the cooler.

Bones how did you get all that for half price I am in the market myself

Bones · « **Reply #17 on:** Feb 03, 2004, 07:41:50 AM »

Quote from: 84runner on Feb 01, 2004, 11:09:21 PM

Bones how did you get all that for half price I am in the market myself

Guy in CA sold his one owner turbo truck and has a ton of extra parts and a partial motor on Ebay. I got the above part before he put them on the net

84runner · « **Reply #18 on:** Feb 06, 2004, 12:18:08 PM »

e_cliff · « **Reply #19 on:** Mar 14, 2004, 05:29:07 PM »

i loved the re head and intercooler when i had my turbo, i will do the same thing to my new daily driver 87 turbo sr5

cliff

jr9162 · « **Reply #20 on:** Oct 15, 2004, 03:23:39 PM »

Quote from: Marlin on Jan 26, 2004, 10:28:46 PM

Quote from: foxfab on Jan 26, 2004, 10:27:08 AM
you can get turbo oil pumps from engnbldr.com as well as metal backed timing kits. I am running both in my 22RE. Also, if you do find that the head is bad, put an 85-87 22RE head on which will boost compression to 8.5:1 for a little more power. engnbldr. has these too. New castings, not rebuilt.

I have gotten aftermarket turbo oil pumps just to find out that it was a non turbo pump since they will both bolt to the timing cover.
A true turbo pump will have oversize gears and two oil vent holes in the housing.
I have always used the factory ASCO pumps.
I have also installed 85-95' 22R heads to bump the compression. It is a great upgrade!

Marlin

Marlin - When building a 22R-E is there anything particularly desirable about using 22R-TE parts versus plain jane 22R-E stuff besides the turbo oil pump?

JR

Prismo · « **Reply #21 on:** Oct 15, 2004, 03:36:38 PM »

This site will help you for info, including intercooler
http://www.well.com/user/mosk/
While on this subject, does anyone know where I can find a wiring diagram for the 86 turbo motor & computer pin out online?

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