** '03 PreRunner --> 4x4 SAS! **

Started by Revivalist, August 31, 2006, 01:49:39 AM

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Revivalist

#30
Quote from: unclejpl4x4
WoW looking good   
Thank you sir!

So far I'm thinking about going with Goodyear MTRs from Discount Tire (American Tire). . . But they don't have any rims that I like. . . . I'm thinking about picking up the ProComps 1079 polished allow wheels from a local shop here. What do you guys think about 3.75" backspacing. . . . Keep in mind that the rear axle is 60" and the front is 64". (I'll probably run spacers in the rear.)
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yotadork83

are you going to sell those 16 inch rims if so put me on the list for them. if so how much.
83 toyota shortbed, 90 rear axle, 5.29's f/r, spools f/r, 22/20 hybrid w/propane, 37 mtrs. dual transfer cases. http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=22712.0
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Revivalist

Quote from: yotadork83 on September 17, 2006, 06:32:11 PM
are you going to sell those 16 inch rims if so put me on the list for them. if so how much.
Yeah, I'm selling them. . . .

I paid $500 for the rims and $630 for the tires (with stems and balanced). . . . That was about 2 months ago. I only put about 2000 miles on them. . . .

What do you think about $950 for the whole set? Let me know.

Nathan (Revivalist)
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yotadork83

i am just interested in the wheels but that is a a good dealhow wide are the wheels and what kind of offset are they and what size tire is on the rims right now.
83 toyota shortbed, 90 rear axle, 5.29's f/r, spools f/r, 22/20 hybrid w/propane, 37 mtrs. dual transfer cases. http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=22712.0
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Revivalist

Unfortunately I would rather sell the wheels with the tires so that I wouldn't waste the cost of mounting and balancing. . . .

If you would like to know more about the rims, check out this link: http://www.procomptires.com/series1023.htm. The part number is 1023-6883.
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Revivalist

#35
Alright, the truck is just about done. Much of the work was finished up last week. Aj installed the Marlin Crawler unto the new 2WD-->4WD adaptor. He also modified the dual T-case crossmember (made for 85 pickups) so it would extend across the wider frame of the Tacoma. Very cool fab work. . . .








The shackle hangers for the rear axle were also welded up in place. . .








I asked AJ if he could also weld up some differential armor for the rear and it turned out great. He was able to relocate the brake line bracket to make room for the armor. . . .





The transmission, 2WD-->4WD adaptor, and dual T-cases made for a pretty long drive train so using two rear shafts with a carrier would have caused the rear shaft to have a very steep angle. . . Instead, it turned out better to go with a single rear drive shaft from the T-case to the rear differential . . .








The front spring hanger was also welded up and the axle was tested fitted. AJ also prepped up a steering box mount since the usual mount for an 85 pickup is too big. . . .








The steering box and shaft were mounted, the shackle hangers were welded in place, and the shackles were bolted on. . . .











The wheels were test fitted and approved! (I went with the 37" Goodyear MTRs on ProComp 15"s.) . . .





Next came the shock hoops that were set in place with an old shock used for a mock setup. After that came the Bilstein 5150s . . .







The front drive shaft was put in with a nice long yoke that was at least 10" or longer . . .





We also installed a power steering cooler that I picked up from Summit since I would be using a ram for hydro-assisted steering. . . .





With the tires all in place we lifted here up to install the ram with the hoses and bracket. AJ fabbed up a nice mount for the ram to fit on the Diamond axle. . . .







Next the rear shock mounts and shocks were also installed. . . .





AJ also relocated the spare tire bracket so that I would be able to fit a 35" tire under there as a spare instead of the usual 31". . . .





By this time it was already getting late and no muffler shops would be open. So a little home-made exhaust rerouting was pieced together with some elbows picked up from Pep Boys. Not the prettiest setup, but good enough to get me home.  . . . Man is that thing LOUD!! . . .





AJ also welded in a bung for me on the exhaust line just before the first cat so I can attach the O2 sensor of my LM1 and tune the air-fuel ratio. . . .





At first it seemed that the shifters weren't even close to matching up with my console. . . . But after some test drilling, it actually turned out perfect. We cut out a chunk of the console and made room for the Marlin crawler shifter and the twin stick . . . It came out great! . . . . I'll just have to drop by a custom upholstery shop later and have them clean it up with some plastic and carpet. . . .





The locker switch and indicator light came out nice as well. There's just a small issue with the fuse not fitting right so the locker is not operable yet. But that should be a minor fix . . .





AJ was also kind enough to take care of a little issue I had with the intake. . . . The Volant air box has a nice big intake but the stock hole in the fender is much smaller. So he cut a hole in the fender that matches the Volant and put a nice seal around it to keep out the hot engine air. Beautiful solution. . . .








There was only one major hitch -- we had a pretty bad leak came from between the transmission and the 2WD-->4WD adaptor. But AJ took care of it with some heavy duty sealant. (They call it "hockey puck"  because it's as hard as a hockey puck when it dries) . . .

So with the truck packed up I hit the road . . . Here's a pic with all the old parts and wheels in the back. . . . Kind of a hard way to break in the new springs!. . . .





I must say that I'm definitely glad that I went for 5.29 r&p gears rather than 4.88s. Already I can feel that the truck is bogged down much more than before. With 4.88s I imagine it would be worse. . . .  Here's a pic of the front. At 64" the front axle is definitely wider than the rear (which is 60.75".) . . .





After I got home I parked the truck in the garage and unloaded it. . . . Then later I discovered that without the weight of all that stuff I couldn't get it back out of the garage! . . . .  





So I had to air down the tires, put the wheels back on the bed, and pull the garage release so I could push the door up an inch higher. . . . I baaaarely made it back out again. Hopefully when the springs settle then I'll be able to fit without problems. . . . Here's one more pic with me standing by it for reference. I'm about 5'8" . . . .


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Revivalist

The following are the remaining tasks that need to be taken care of:

• Shift out of 4WD. For some reason we couldn't shift to 2WD. So AJ just removed the front drive shaft so that I can drive home. Hopefully Marlin will be able to help out with that.

• Get the twin sticks to shift smoothly. For some reason they are very stiff and sometimes won't shift at all. I don't know if it's because they're new or something needs to be adjusted.

• Fix the fuse for the front locker and indicator light.

• Fix a minor leak that still continues from the t-cases.

• Have the exhaust redone.

• Have the center console cleaned up.

• Trim the fenders. We tested the truck on a loading dock ramp and found that it was slightly rubbing the rear fender flare and the front bumper. And I don't think the truck was even flexed to its max like it will be on the trail. So I think I'll wait for the springs to settle before figuring out how much to trim. Otherwise we may not trim enough.

• Lower the lift. Right now the truck sits at a height of 6'10" with the 6" suspension lift and 3" body lift. It has A LOT of body roll going around corners. I would like to lose the body lift but there's no way I would clear the tires. So hopefully after enough trimming, I might be able to at least reduce the body lift by 2" or so. . .

• Install air bumps. AJ suggested installing some air bumps instead of bump stops for a better ride. I was looking at these. I was thinking the Fox 2.0" air bumps with a 4" stroke and the chromoly 2.0 Fox air bump can. Sound good? Also, do I need this hardware? And lastly, is polyperformance the best place to get them or is there a cheaper place?

• Install tranny gauge. It turned out that the tranny gauge I bought is not an inline gauge. So I have to order up an inline sensor and then install it with the gauge. I'm not sure what part I need exactly. Any hints would be appreciated. . .

• Bumpers and tubes. I'm thinking about eventually installing a bentup bumper (probably front and back) and some tubes around the rear panels.
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Yota87Truck

Can you post some more pictures of your, if you can get some pictures with it flexed out.  That is the kind of set up I eventually want to have, with the full cab.  I want to bob the bed and turn it into a hard core crawler when it gets older.  I would like some pics of the interior too.  Overall about how much did the build cost and how much did your truck cost to begin with. 

Revivalist

Sure, hopefully I can flex it on a loading dock this week and take some pics. . . I can also take some pics of the interior when it's all cleaned up. It's probably going to be a few weeks for that. . .
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gotrocks

dude awesome build.  I hope i get to see that someday in person

blackdiamond

A built Tocama Double Cab  :thumbsup:

I have told my wife many times that this would be my dream rig.  :yesnod:
1989 4Runner: Dual Ultimate (Inchworm front & Marlin 4.70 rear), Marlin Twin Stick, 1200-lb clutch, 4.88 R&P, Aussie Front, Detroit rear, 30-spline Longs, Long hub gears, ARP hub and knuckle studs & 35x12.50 Cooper STT PRO tires.  Marlin rear bumper & sliders.  FROR front bumper.  SAS with Alcan springs & Rancho 9000XL shocks.  Budbuilt Bolt-on traction bar.  Custom Interior Cage by Those Guys Rod and Customs.

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gotrocks

blackdiamond you previde the rig I'll do the work. i'd love to build one

blackdiamond

gotrocks,

you provide the cash, I'll purchase the rig and let you build it.  :gap:

I'll be stretching the budget to get a 1st Generation 4Runner built the way I want.
1989 4Runner: Dual Ultimate (Inchworm front & Marlin 4.70 rear), Marlin Twin Stick, 1200-lb clutch, 4.88 R&P, Aussie Front, Detroit rear, 30-spline Longs, Long hub gears, ARP hub and knuckle studs & 35x12.50 Cooper STT PRO tires.  Marlin rear bumper & sliders.  FROR front bumper.  SAS with Alcan springs & Rancho 9000XL shocks.  Budbuilt Bolt-on traction bar.  Custom Interior Cage by Those Guys Rod and Customs.

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Revivalist

Well I got to have a little fun on the forklift yesterday. . . . We got the front tire up 34" before one of the rear tires lifted . . .








Looking underneath, we could see that the front shackle was practically maxing out. It seems that it's because of a bad angle to begin with. AJ mentioned that some boomer rang shackles would work fine to solve that problem. . . .





The springs were also flattening out since we didn't put bump stop extenders yet. It's clear that we'll need longer bump stop extensions than the usual ones that come with IFS Eliminator kits. . . .





There was also considerable rubbing for the front , as I expected there would be. . . I'm thinking of swapping out the front and rear bumpers for custom steel bumpers by AJ. That will solve the rubbing on the front bumper and provide much better protection. We'll have to also cut out the back of the front wheelwell and maybe pound the firewall to take care of the rest of the rubbing in the front. . . .





As for the rear, there was rubbing there as well . . .We'll have to cut off a good portion of the bottom of the bed and then AJ's custom bumper can swing around and give better protection there as well. . . .





Here's the truck flexed from the rear . . . .








We're also planning on dropping the body lift to 1.5". That way the rear cross member holding up the shocks can remain and provide support under the bed. I don't think I want to remove the body lift completely cuz that would require WAY too much cutting. . . .
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olivedrab85

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Revivalist

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unclejpl4x4

so when U gona go for a test drive ?   and i don't mean down the assfault
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Revivalist

It's probably going to be several weeks. . . I still have all of the following being done to it. . . .


Fix 4WD to 2WD shifter
Fix leak in t-cases
Fill t-cases with Amsoil
Put front drive shaft in
Enable front locker and indicator light
Replace hard brake line and bleed brakes
Reroute hydro hose & put synthetic steering fluid
Move steering cooler up in front of radiator
Fix speedometer sensor
Install shorter shackle bolts
Bend spare tire mount and test fit 35" tire underneath
Fix steering shaft rub
Fix front shackle angle
Alignment
Put front mud flaps back on
Fill front differential with Amsoil
Fix exhaust (reroute 2nd cat and adjust rear hanger)
Install sway bar
Install bump stop extenders and bump stops
Install tranny temp gauge
Install Superlift speedometer adjuster
Change body lift from 3" to 1.5"
Modifiy fire wall for front wheel clearance
Cut the bottom of the rear bed for rear wheel clearance
Install front steel bumper with winch mount
Install rear steel bumper with spare tire mount
Install gap gaurds
Flex truck on ramp and final check for any rubbing
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Revivalist

Ok, well I think I've settled on going with a ARB bumper in the front. That will give the extra protection I'm looking for around the lights and I think it's pretty strong in general. . . .



The only questions I have is whether it reduces the approach angle, and whether I can use the Warn multi-mount with a front receive instead of using a winch in the bumper. I want to use these . . .





That way I can remove the winch when I'm not wheelin and also put it on the back hitch if I ever need to winch from behind . . .

Anyone have experience or pictures running an ARB bumper on their Taco? . . . Or experience with the multi-mount? . . .
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Yota87Truck

That has a lot of flex.  When you have a change to take it out on the trail be sure and post some pics.  Your rig is awsome.  Someday.....I will have one!!   Hopefully!

Revivalist

Thanks. . . I can't wait to take it out on the trail . . . . But it's still gonna be a few more weeks. . .
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blackdiamond

Quote from: Revivalist on October 19, 2006, 03:25:01 PM
Thanks. . . I can't wait to take it out on the trail . . . . But it's still gonna be a few more weeks. . .

Please make sure your first wheeling pictures are not on the "FLOP" thread!  :driving:
1989 4Runner: Dual Ultimate (Inchworm front & Marlin 4.70 rear), Marlin Twin Stick, 1200-lb clutch, 4.88 R&P, Aussie Front, Detroit rear, 30-spline Longs, Long hub gears, ARP hub and knuckle studs & 35x12.50 Cooper STT PRO tires.  Marlin rear bumper & sliders.  FROR front bumper.  SAS with Alcan springs & Rancho 9000XL shocks.  Budbuilt Bolt-on traction bar.  Custom Interior Cage by Those Guys Rod and Customs.

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BLACKDOG

:thumbs:  beautiful rig bro!!

You guys do some great work.  I too hope to build a double cab taco in the near future :crossed: as I feel my 3rd gen xcab just doesn't cut it cab room wise. 

:psss: I'm liking your avitar/sig line as well :thumbs:
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Revivalist

Quote from: BLACKDOG on October 19, 2006, 04:47:18 PM
:thumbs:  beautiful rig bro!!

You guys do some great work.  I too hope to build a double cab taco in the near future :crossed: as I feel my 3rd gen xcab just doesn't cut it cab room wise. 

:psss: I'm liking your avitar/sig line as well :thumbs:
Thanks! . . . . Yeah, it's definitely nice to have the extra room to bring friends/family along wheelin', especially if you don't have a lot of other friends with rigs. . . . Hopefully I can get my wife to come along some time. ;)
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blackSR5

I would have to say that your rig looks SICK!!! It is bad bro. I want my truck to look half as bad as that does some day. Where in sac did you do all the work??
Want a Runner or a truck...and a DIRT BIKE!!!

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Revivalist

It was done by bentup.com in Folsom, just east of downtown Sacramento . . .

Hey 6.72:1, is that picture in your avatar for real?!
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6.72:1

Quote from: Revivalist on November 04, 2006, 10:18:47 PM
It was done by bentup.com in Folsom, just east of downtown Sacramento . . .

Hey 6.72:1, is that picture in your avatar for real?!

It is about as real as it gets!

Yes, it is rediculously wide right now, but I just have the military wheels flipped out on the Rockwell axles. I am not even going to run these wheels/tires.
With the wheels flipped out, edge of tire to edge of tire is 104 inches wide!

They are merely mock-up wheels and tires.
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Revivalist

#58
I haven't had a chance to take a lot of new pics. But since I last posted we installed an ARB bumper up front with a Warn M8000 winch, hawse fairlead, and synthetic rope. . . .

For the rear Aj custom fabbed a wrap around bumper with rear panel tubes, a hitch, spare tire mount, and D-ring loops. . . . In addition we put a swaybar with quick disconnects, dropped the body lift to 2", and clearanced the front wheelwells a bit. . . .

I finally got a chance to take her wheelin! . . . Here's a pic in my drive way all packed up and ready to roll! . . .




The trail ride went well. I took video clips that I'll piece together and post later. . . . There was only really bad spot where I took a wrong line and leaned her over too close for comfort! . . .




We tethered up the front to a tree with the winch and a buddy I met on the trail hooked a tow strap and winch line to the rear of the rock slider. . . .





It turned out fine as I eased off driver's side rocks and tigtened the winch . . .





We made it to the look-out tower at the top but it was already gettin later so the pics came out dark. . .





I got some good video clips that I'll piece together post up later. . . .
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blackdiamond

1989 4Runner: Dual Ultimate (Inchworm front & Marlin 4.70 rear), Marlin Twin Stick, 1200-lb clutch, 4.88 R&P, Aussie Front, Detroit rear, 30-spline Longs, Long hub gears, ARP hub and knuckle studs & 35x12.50 Cooper STT PRO tires.  Marlin rear bumper & sliders.  FROR front bumper.  SAS with Alcan springs & Rancho 9000XL shocks.  Budbuilt Bolt-on traction bar.  Custom Interior Cage by Those Guys Rod and Customs.

Moab Tested & Rubicon Approved