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Yukon R&P? Good? Bad?
« on: Jun 22, 2006, 06:21:48 PM »
What do you guys think of Yukon Gears (R&P's)?Specifically 5:29's. Good? Bad? Any experiences or nightmares with them? Please let me know.
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Re: Yukon R&P? Good? Bad?
« Reply #1 on: Jun 22, 2006, 06:24:48 PM »
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Re: Yukon R&P? Good? Bad?
« Reply #2 on: Jun 22, 2006, 07:26:10 PM »
ive heard that over and over again, must mean something huh
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Re: Yukon R&P? Good? Bad?
« Reply #3 on: Jun 22, 2006, 07:45:02 PM »
are they all treated by bobby long or is that something u pay extra for?
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Re: Yukon R&P? Good? Bad?
« Reply #4 on: Jun 22, 2006, 08:03:28 PM »
are they all treated by bobby long or is that something u pay extra for? avent

dont think so but i may be wrong..

haven't had a problem with mine yet
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Re: Yukon R&P? Good? Bad?
« Reply #5 on: Jun 22, 2006, 08:21:31 PM »
no not all yukons are treated by bobby long and yukon is the best gear ive ever run and will never buy any thing else

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Re: Yukon R&P? Good? Bad?
« Reply #6 on: Jun 22, 2006, 09:34:47 PM »
I have been running Yukon 5.29s for a little over two years now. No problems at all. I've been DDing mostly, but they've seen some trail use too. I have 7.5" front on stock/open carrier and 8" on a Detroit.

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Re: Yukon R&P? Good? Bad?
« Reply #7 on: Jun 22, 2006, 09:36:47 PM »
is the treating process even really necessary then? if no one ever has problems with them?  :headscratch:
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Re: Yukon R&P? Good? Bad?
« Reply #8 on: Jun 22, 2006, 10:26:14 PM »
is the treating process even really necessary then? if no one ever has problems with them?  :headscratch:

it is the utmost in strength, however, i have heard for some reason that you arent supposed to run cryoed gears on a street driven truck..... although i have no idea why......
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Re: Yukon R&P? Good? Bad?
« Reply #9 on: Jun 23, 2006, 12:35:52 AM »
i think its because they wont wear properly. actually i have no idea i seem to remember reading that they wear better than normal. i dont know! move along  :smack:
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Re: Yukon R&P? Good? Bad?
« Reply #10 on: Jun 23, 2006, 05:53:31 AM »
Thanks guys. It seems the majority of you like them. I am planning on stepping up to 35's and 5:29's. My truck isn't daily driven. It is only driven on the street once in a while.

I think you guys have helped me with my decision.

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Re: Yukon R&P? Good? Bad?
« Reply #11 on: Jun 25, 2006, 03:42:47 PM »
it is the utmost in strength, however, i have heard for some reason that you arent supposed to run cryoed gears on a street driven truck..... although i have no idea why......

i think its because they wont wear properly. actually i have no idea i seem to remember reading that they wear better than normal. i dont know! move along  :smack:
:headscratch: anyone? anyone?
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Re: Yukon R&P? Good? Bad?
« Reply #12 on: Jun 25, 2006, 08:04:06 PM »
Yukon is Randy's r&P house brand name.  They could be made by a number of different gear cutters, but they do have a good reputation.  Precision and Richmond are also supposed to be nice gears.

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Re: Yukon R&P? Good? Bad?
« Reply #13 on: Jul 03, 2006, 07:57:32 AM »
a thread on pirate just answered the heat/cryo wear question..
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=486341

apparently cryo is always good but you dont want to heat treat the rear if youre gonna be driving at highway sppeds.
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Re: Yukon R&P? Good? Bad?
« Reply #14 on: Jul 03, 2006, 08:08:37 AM »
Good info to know about cyro'd gears.  I was planning on buying two sets of cryo's but I guess I'll buy 1 set for the front and run regular gears in the rear.
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Re: Yukon R&P? Good? Bad?
« Reply #15 on: Jul 03, 2006, 11:52:50 AM »
Good info to know about cyro'd gears.  I was planning on buying two sets of cryo's but I guess I'll buy 1 set for the front and run regular gears in the rear.

I noted that several people seemed to agree that cryo-treated gears were not good in the rear end of a highway driven rig, but I never saw anyone actually give a reason.

When I picked up my Longfields from Bobby I asked him about the cryo-treated stock birfields.  He said that the treatment actually made them softer and less brittle.  This allows them to absorb energy rather than simply shattering.  I can only assume that cryo-treating the ring & pinion has the same effect.  If this is the case, the softer metal probably wears out faster.  It is possible that the increase in trail durability isn't a good trade-off for the decrease in lifespan.

I don't know, but this is the only thing I can come up with.  :dunno:
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Re: Yukon R&P? Good? Bad?
« Reply #16 on: Jul 03, 2006, 11:54:23 PM »
The cryo-ing isnt the issue on highway rigs. Its the heat treating. I imagine it has something to do with the gears getting hot from going that fast. Maybe they dont like to be heated up too much after getting baked by Bobby? I still cant think of a reason why.
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Re: Yukon R&P? Good? Bad?
« Reply #17 on: Jul 04, 2006, 11:06:28 AM »
The cryo-ing isnt the issue on highway rigs. Its the heat treating. I imagine it has something to do with the gears getting hot from going that fast. Maybe they dont like to be heated up too much after getting baked by Bobby? I still cant think of a reason why.

Isn't part of the break in on a differential include several cycles of heating and cooling that produces a "heat treat" affect?  Maybe this process simple reverses the cryo process?
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Re: Yukon R&P? Good? Bad?
« Reply #18 on: Jul 05, 2006, 01:08:27 AM »
what if i bought a set of 5.29s put them in my oven for like 5 hours at super hot and let them cool off them put them in the deap freeze for a couple of hours and repeat the process a couple of times!!!
btw i am just joking....
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Re: Yukon R&P? Good? Bad?
« Reply #19 on: Jul 05, 2006, 12:03:23 PM »
what if i bought a set of 5.29s put them in my oven for like 5 hours at super hot and let them cool off them put them in the deap freeze for a couple of hours and repeat the process a couple of times!!!
btw i am just joking....

not quite the temperature of liquid nitrogen that is used.
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Re: Yukon R&P? Good? Bad?
« Reply #20 on: Jul 05, 2006, 01:04:30 PM »
what if i bought a set of 5.29s put them in my oven for like 5 hours at super hot and let them cool off them put them in the deap freeze for a couple of hours and repeat the process a couple of times!!!
btw i am just joking....


oh wow, you didnt start your own thread on it! i htink im having a heart attack......
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Re: Yukon R&P? Good? Bad?
« Reply #21 on: Jul 05, 2006, 10:26:20 PM »
yukon gears is all i wil buy,my friends who own a transmission shop only run yukon unless a customer brings their own gears,great product and service on any problems they have,cryo i dunno about,im not that hardcore i guess,need my $$ for more important things right now
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