Author Topic: trail gear springs (Read 16334 times)

croberts · « **on:** Jun 04, 2006, 07:47:06 PM »

just wondering what you guys think about these springs

DTB · « **Reply #1 on:** Jun 04, 2006, 07:53:24 PM »

which ones are they imported or USA

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79coyotefrg · « **Reply #2 on:** Jun 04, 2006, 07:54:01 PM »

oh its a long nasty story
but i can tell you they MIGHT be as good as Marlins, but Marlin stands by his stuff, try and get some customer support from trailgear

DTB · « **Reply #3 on:** Jun 04, 2006, 08:01:02 PM »

wait a minute where the hell r these things from again? China? US? Di-Pro? does anyone really know

croberts · « **Reply #4 on:** Jun 04, 2006, 08:11:21 PM »

i haven't heard anything bad about there customer support. anybody running these? how well do they flex and ride pics are good

croberts · « **Reply #5 on:** Jun 04, 2006, 08:15:43 PM »

is it just me or do all these lift kits look the same all pro marlin trailgear?

Hyena · « **Reply #6 on:** Jun 04, 2006, 08:17:42 PM »

I have heard they are compairable to marlins springs. I have also heard nothing bad from there customer support.

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #7 on:** Jun 04, 2006, 08:21:48 PM »

Quote from: croberts on Jun 04, 2006, 08:15:43 PM

is it just me or do all these lift kits look the same all pro marlin trailgear?

If you are refering to the fact that even the pictures are the same you'd be correct, but I can safely say all those images are from Marlin's site.

As to quality, Marlin used to have as a cheaper option imported springs but they didn't last very long before they either sagged horribly, bent or broke under heavy use. I believe they came from China, before you buy from any of the 3 you mentioned find out where they get their springs.

SLOYOTA808 · « **Reply #8 on:** Jun 05, 2006, 01:24:03 AM »

U.S all the way, no matter where you get them from...but, judging by the gigantor yellow sticker on my hood, guess where I buy my US of A springs from

RustyToy · « **Reply #9 on:** Jun 05, 2006, 07:01:11 AM »

Ive herd they are really soft, i've herd happy things and bad things... its all about what you want. Marlin still has the best front springs, they seam to last longer, but if you want to throw some cheaper springs in the back get TG.

blackdiamond · « **Reply #10 on:** Jun 05, 2006, 07:06:40 AM »

Please keep in mind while reading this that I am a Marlin supporter every chance I get, but...

Everybody keeps saying how much better Marlin's springs are than All Pro and Trailgear when it appears that they are all about the same. Gotrocks killed a set of Marlin "import" springs in a couple of weeks and either his front or rear Marlin "usa" springs in one trip to Moab plus a few weeks. I think the current springs are still doing ok, but even with the excellent warranty support I am not very impressed with the product.

I'm in favor of supporting Marlin if they are the springs you want, but I wouldn't expect them to be significantly different the AP or TG.

Ramrod · « **Reply #11 on:** Jun 05, 2006, 10:39:57 AM »

why do you guys care if its import or american springs? My "import" rears up front flex a whole hell of a lot more than my "us" chevy rears and my "import" 86 toyota truck is a lot more reliable than my "us" 99 ford ranger with a third of the miles. No i'm not japanese and biased

Ramrod · « **Reply #12 on:** Jun 05, 2006, 10:42:56 AM »

Quote from: 79Coyotefrg on Jun 04, 2006, 07:54:01 PM

but Marlin stands by his stuff, try and get some customer support from trailgear

please stop saying that, you have nothing to back that up with

DTB · « **Reply #13 on:** Jun 05, 2006, 10:45:57 AM »

Quote from: TEAM RAMROD on Jun 05, 2006, 10:39:57 AM

why do you guys care if its import or american springs? My "import" rears up front flex a whole hell of a lot more than my "us" chevy rears and my "import" 86 toyota truck is a lot more reliable than my "us" 99 ford ranger with a third of the miles. No i'm not japanese and biased

This is about "aftermarket" springs not stock springs from import or domestic vehicles. Usually when people say "import" for springs it means China. It's funny how still no one knows where these springs are really from.

blackdiamond · « **Reply #14 on:** Jun 05, 2006, 11:36:52 AM »

Quote from: TEAM RAMROD on Jun 05, 2006, 10:39:57 AM

why do you guys care if its import or american springs? My "import" rears up front flex a whole hell of a lot more than my "us" chevy rears and my "import" 86 toyota truck is a lot more reliable than my "us" 99 ford ranger with a third of the miles. No i'm not japanese and biased

The USA springs that Marlin sells are better quality than the non-USA springs that he previously sold. All Pro has also sold the same springs. I don't think anyone is saying that all non-USA manufactured springs are junk, but are specifically referring to the All Pro and Marlin springs.

dizzydevil · « **Reply #15 on:** Jun 06, 2006, 09:55:26 PM »

SPENT SOME TIME TALKING W/ SOME OF THE GUYS FROM ALL PRO TODAY, TURNS OUT THAT THE ALL PRO AND MARLIN SPRINGS ARE MADE BY THE SAME PEOPLE AND ARE BASICLY THE SAME. THE TG AND IMPORT SPRINGS ARE MADE IN CHINA. the PROBLEM W/ THESE ( NOT ALL Chinese items) is that they are made from a inferior metal and are assembled in either china or Mexico because of this they have less quality control and sometimes a poorer quality. That being said I have spoken w/somebody w/trail gear springs and they are very happy with them, I have installed a set of allpro springs and the guy who runs them is very happy and i have yet to hear anything bad about Marlins springs.....so ...go w/your gut $Beer Chug\'n$

shermota · « **Reply #16 on:** Jun 12, 2006, 04:28:58 PM »

Quote from: croberts on Jun 04, 2006, 08:15:43 PM

is it just me or do all these lift kits look the same all pro marlin trailgear?

From what I understand, Marlin was supposed to go into buisness with trail-gear. Something happend and it didnt work out. In the process Chris Geiger went to work for Trail Gear. As far as I know trail gear was/is the supplier for alot of marlins suspension stuff. I dont know crap about all-pro, so I cant compare that. So baiscally springs are the same. The only difference is who you are buying them from. That said.........

Honestly by them form Marlin, his shop is WAY more helpful. In fact Chris Geiger leaving and going to trail gear was probably a benefit to marlin, becaue everytime i went to the shop and dealt with him he made it seem as If it were an inconvienice to have someone ask him questions. Several friends of mine have reiterated the same thing. I also got the same vibe both times I went to trail gear, where . Besides that, Marlin has been around a long time and I think He deserves more loyalty from toyota owners. He will go to no end to help someon out, just the kinda guy he is. Just my $.02

gotrocks · « **Reply #17 on:** Jun 12, 2006, 04:54:30 PM »

I'm wish there weren't so many threads out there regarding this issue. But in saying that there are so many opinions about it. I personally have had the import springs and had the US springs. Frankly the import springs for me failed in about 4 trips snowwheeling on them. Remeber what I said SNOW WHEELING. NOT ROCK CRAWLING. I don't know why they failed so quickly and had very good customer support getting another set of springs from marlin. They sent me a US made set and like blackdiamond said earlier they failed in a week at Moab. Now the front set was the only one that failed and I still don't understand what happened. I have 2 friends in my club that run the marlin 4" springs as well. One friend has had them on now for a few months with no problems at all. Another friend had the same thing happen to me in just a few weeks. Both sets were the US made springs. I just think that my buddy and I some from a bad batch or something. This is very wierd beacuse no one has had this much problem with the US made stuff from what I've been hearing. I since have gotten a third set of front springs to replace my US made set. Marlin is very good about standing behind his products and I support him mostly because I know that if I had a problem he will take care of it.

If I were use another set of springs I would honestly run a hybrid set fo rears up front. I have a truck setup this way as well and really like it. Now for the rear springs there are so many options. I don't think there really is a clear answer out there to be said. Just do your research and go with what you feel is best for you. If I had to buy from one of the 3 it'd be Marlin hands down.

h0nke · « **Reply #18 on:** Jun 21, 2006, 09:07:33 AM »

Does trail gear have a website?

rocktoy83 · « **Reply #19 on:** Jun 21, 2006, 11:29:24 AM »

Trail-gear.com is the website

h0nke · « **Reply #20 on:** Jun 21, 2006, 12:59:02 PM »

thanks for the link

Is Marlin tied in with them somehow?

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #21 on:** Jun 21, 2006, 01:44:10 PM »

Quote from: h0nke on Jun 21, 2006, 12:59:02 PM

thanks for the link

Is Marlin tied in with them somehow?

Do we really want to go there again?

Oh well.

BigMike · « **Reply #22 on:** Jun 21, 2006, 01:55:56 PM »

Quote from: h0nke on Jun 21, 2006, 12:59:02 PM

thanks for the link

Is Marlin tied in with them somehow?

h0nke, just out of curiosity, what makes you believe that we are related in some way?

Seriously, I am not asking anything else, I just would like to know if your first impression was that we were related in some way.

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CruzrDave · « **Reply #23 on:** Jun 21, 2006, 01:58:25 PM »

I just discovered this thread.

Our US springs are manufactured to our specs by Bett’s spring company in San Leandro, California.

The import springs are just that.

crazywb · « **Reply #24 on:** Jun 21, 2006, 02:08:51 PM »

Quote from: CruzrDave on Jun 21, 2006, 01:58:25 PM

I just discovered this thread.

Our US springs are manufactured to our specs by Bett’s spring company in San Leandro, California.

The import springs are just that.

At this point I'm not ashamed to admit that OUR Import springs ARE made in China. With that said we offer a higher end U.S. line, We leave the choice to the customer's

Thanks CJ

h0nke · « **Reply #25 on:** Jun 21, 2006, 02:22:38 PM »

Looks like I might have hit a rough spot here my fault. Havent been on the board in awhile im guessing this has been hashed out before.

BigMike - I thought they might be tied in with yall because there website shopping setup reminded me of Marlin's. And I see they are in Fresno which is where I think yall are at if I remember correctly. Lots of similar
products.