Author Topic: wtf please help my truck sags horribly to the drivers side (Read 10752 times)

84_yota_4wd · « **on:** Apr 27, 2006, 04:36:33 PM »

i dont know what 2 do guys. :inthedark:ever since i put my lift on my truck nas sagged the the drivers side. it drives me f@ckin nuts. :hammerhead:i havent been able to figure it out. now it might b thye shocks they r not new or even close to it. the fronts r off a toyota race car and the rears r off of a late model race car. but i dont think thats it i put pics up of my suspention so u guys can try and find something.ive discoved that on the drivers side of the front axle there is no build up where the spring sits but on the passengers side there is a bout a 1/2 inch of build up where the spring builds up the springs im runnin r pro comps from the four wheel parts store and im runnin 2" lift shackles. the rear is blocked but it sags just as bad if not worse. please help me out. all i can think of doin now is shim it up so its even. here the pics of the suspention

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #1 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 04:56:11 PM »

Due to the fact that 1 spring perch is higher than the other some manufactures make one spring arch more than the other. If this is the type you have, and you put them on wrong it leans even more than it would have if both springs were equal. Others like Marlin have equal arch springs and supply you with a spacer to match the other side.

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #2 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 05:01:51 PM »

Also, sometimes when you lift a truck the torque rod will pull the left side down some if you put it back on, but I see that the torque rod has been removed. On that issue without the torque rod you can have an issue with it pulling real hard right in a panic braking situation. When I have removed the torque rod I replace it with a steering stablizer. Now back on topic you could also have a bent or tweaked frame.

84_yota_4wd · « **Reply #3 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 05:33:10 PM »

um i know i put them on the right side cause the guy at the 4 wheel parts store told me that they were marked right and left and 2 make sure that i put em on right um i dont think the frame is tweeked cause it sat even when it wasnt lifted. althogh its ive been rear ende twice once by a big a$$ bronco with a off road bimber and on monday by a floppin' avalon.

84_yota_4wd · « **Reply #4 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 05:45:23 PM »

here how the back sits

84_yota_4wd · « **Reply #5 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 05:52:51 PM »

heres the front

84_yota_4wd · « **Reply #6 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 05:55:59 PM »

yea that f@ckin avolan het me on the passenger corner havnt had tome to fix it yet

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #7 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 05:56:52 PM »

dude, that left spring is broke

84_yota_4wd · « **Reply #8 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 06:00:58 PM »

where at why and how there only 4 monthe old only driven on for two montha and wheels only like 8 or 9 times. or r u talkin about the rear

84_yota_4wd · « **Reply #9 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 06:04:58 PM »

also its done it ever since i put them on and i bought them new

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #10 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 06:05:34 PM »

Quote from: 79Coyotefrg on Apr 27, 2006, 05:56:52 PM

dude, that left spring is broke

Dude, I don't see it Glen, you must have eagle eyes.

ZUK · « **Reply #11 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 06:06:30 PM »

Is it possible the perch has an arch in it and the tight u-bolts are pulling down the leaf pack?

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #12 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 06:09:40 PM »

see zuk saw it, the springs have almost a negitive arc at the perch, ie bent/broke spring

a 3 leaf lift spring

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #13 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 06:10:00 PM »

Quote from: ZUK on Apr 27, 2006, 06:06:30 PM

Is it possible the perch has an arch in it and the tight u-bolts are pulling down the leaf pack?

Anything is possible, and it would pull it down if the perch was bent down.

CTENG in KS · « **Reply #14 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 06:10:30 PM »

Did we all miss the part up top where he doesn't have a spacer for the drivers side...get a spacer...call Marlin for one...

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #15 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 06:12:37 PM »

Quote from: CTENG in KS on Apr 27, 2006, 06:10:30 PM

Did we all miss the part up top where he doesn't have a spacer for the drivers side...get a spacer...call Marlin for one...

We addressed that he has left and right springs.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #16 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 06:15:47 PM »

no i'd get a short leaf from the bottom of a 1st gen front pack and stick that in there

maybe another leaf on each side, them 3 leaf spring packs are gonna settle

84_yota_4wd · « **Reply #17 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 06:16:02 PM »

ive got some shims im gonna try that eventually but i c what ur talkin about with that spring this is what happens when i cant afford marlin springs

84_yota_4wd · « **Reply #18 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 06:17:16 PM »

a fist gen leaf huh any1 got 1

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #19 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 06:21:30 PM »

Quote from: 79Coyotefrg on Apr 27, 2006, 06:15:47 PM

no i'd get a short leaf from the bottom of a 1st gen front pack and stick that in there

maybe another leaf on each side, them 3 leaf spring packs are gonna settle

I've added a couple on mine due to settling. I've got a new set of rears in the garage, just haven't had the time to put them on. Then I'm gonna move some of the rear pack to the front.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #20 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 06:21:51 PM »

just find anything with multiple leafs that are 2 1/2 inches wide, and find a leaf longer than the bottom leaf you have and shorter than the middle leaf and stick it in there

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #21 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 06:26:11 PM »

I've lost count on the rears, I think I have like seven leafs.

The fronts are holding at four, but I'll probably swap in 2 or 3 once I put the new set in the rear.

84_yota_4wd · « **Reply #22 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 06:30:35 PM »

do i just put it under the leafs or do i take the leaf apart and put it in. cause ive never done that beforeim sure i could but wont know where to start oh i have the stock fronts could i add a leaf from that to em

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #23 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 06:38:44 PM »

no the stock 84 fronts are flat and have no flex
get some F150 or or early S10 2wd springs, what you want is 2wd springs that are fairly thin but have lots of arch, if you have some old rear springs you can use maybe the lower leaf from them

yes, you will remove the spring pack from the truck , then remove the center tiebolt
separate the leafs and add one or 2 in depending on length

84_yota_4wd · « **Reply #24 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 06:44:01 PM »

how do u get the center pin out

84_yota_4wd · « **Reply #25 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 06:45:08 PM »

or should i just get these

84_yota_4wd · « **Reply #26 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 06:47:00 PM »

i can pick these up 4 $50 bucks but i think they r bent too

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #27 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 06:53:58 PM »

50 for the pair?? not bad but that top leaf is bent

get them and use them for add on leafs for the other ones

you can take the nut off or cut it off and get new ones from napa, just make sure you get "leaf spring tie bolts"

84_yota_4wd · « **Reply #28 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 07:01:50 PM »

leaf spring tie bolt got ya ill do that how many sould i add to them or shold i take the bootm leafs off and add them off of the others ones what. basicly im askin what would b the best combination

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #29 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 07:08:47 PM »

i have 6 leaves up front and 7 in the back, with my 3rd leaf being the same length as the top 2 i get the most lift

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