Author Topic: 22r noise??? (Read 9707 times)

GoaT · « **on:** Apr 27, 2006, 09:02:15 AM »

MY 22r makes alot of clater sounds like in the head.

i was told thats common but its loud!!!

valve adjustment? or is it just how it is?

Wermz84 · « **Reply #1 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 10:21:45 AM »

Quote from: GoaT on Apr 27, 2006, 09:02:15 AM

MY 22r makes alot of clater sounds like in the head.

i was told thats common but its loud!!!

valve adjustment? or is it just how it is?

They all make a bit of noise, but checking the valves is easy and would be cheap insurance.

Hopefully it isn't your timing chain slapping around cuz the guide is gone. My last engine sounded like a diesel because of that.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #2 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 10:58:03 AM »

pull your valve cover and see what wiggles

GoaT · « **Reply #3 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 11:39:56 AM »

Quote from: Wermz84 on Apr 27, 2006, 10:21:45 AM

They all make a bit of noise, but checking the valves is easy and would be cheap insurance.

Hopefully it isn't your timing chain slapping around cuz the guide is gone. My last engine sounded like a diesel because of that.

damn it that is what t sounds like. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

874runner · « **Reply #4 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 11:51:14 AM »

Mine does the same thing. I hope its not the timing chain

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #5 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 03:02:47 PM »

If it is the timming chain get it fixed before it eats a hole in the cover. I have unfortunatly done that one, started while I was wheeling it in Truckhaven and by the time I got to Cherry Valley I was spitting oil all over the place.

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #6 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 03:16:10 PM »

lol U can hear my valve train over the radio and worn/chopy tires runner

get a gasket and pull you cover check you dangle ajust........ still will be noise after

GoaT · « **Reply #7 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 03:17:34 PM »

k i does sound like its coming from the front of the motor.... but yah. is there any right ups on how to adjust u valves?

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #8 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 03:28:52 PM »

Quote from: GoaT on Apr 27, 2006, 03:17:34 PM

k i does sound like its coming from the front of the motor.... but yah. is there any right ups on how to adjust u valves?

If it's the front of the motor it is more than likely the timing chain, adjusting the valves won't help.

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #9 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 04:59:20 PM »

goat is it more of a ticking sound ? from up front ? then it's the chain. but do your valves.

There realy is no trick , motor warm and a feeler gauge 2 sizes start at top dead center and do the in/ex valves U can get then flip er over and do the rest.

Wermz84 · « **Reply #10 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 05:05:20 PM »

Quote from: 79Coyotefrg on Apr 27, 2006, 10:58:03 AM

pull your valve cover and see what wiggles

I see the problem know, there's these little rocking things in here, I'm gonna go and pull em out!

Quote from: Rocksurfer on Apr 27, 2006, 03:02:47 PM

If it is the timming chain get it fixed before it eats a hole in the cover. I have unfortunatly done that one, started while I was wheeling it in Truckhaven and by the time I got to Cherry Valley I was spitting oil all over the place.

It would suck to spring a leak! Oil RS?

I thought the leak would be from a water jacket.

Quote from: GoaT on Apr 27, 2006, 03:17:34 PM

k i does sound like its coming from the front of the motor.... but yah. is there any right ups on how to adjust u valves?

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=5743.0
maybee that helps, definatly warm. I just did mine. .008 intake, and .012 exhaust I believe. Is that right everybody?

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #11 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 05:10:03 PM »

Quote from: Wermz84 on Apr 27, 2006, 05:05:20 PM

It would suck to spring a leak! Oil RS? I thought the leak would be from a water jacket.

It all depends on where it makes the hole, if it takes out the front of the cover you'll get water and oil mixing inside, if your chain bangs the side it will gnaw a hole that will spit oil all over the place. Fortunately lots of RTV will fix it enough to get it home if it's on the side of the case.

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #12 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 05:11:03 PM »

more or less wermz but some times U just got 2 go by sound.

and yes if it is the chain don't wait 2 long the t-cover on my celica broke while i was doing 70 on the highway needles 2 say i was at the j-yard geting a new moter.

Wermz84 · « **Reply #13 on:** Apr 28, 2006, 03:15:18 PM »

Quote from: Rocksurfer on Apr 27, 2006, 05:10:03 PM

It all depends on where it makes the hole, if it takes out the front of the cover you'll get water and oil mixing inside, if your chain bangs the side it will gnaw a hole that will spit oil all over the place. Fortunately lots of RTV will fix it enough to get it home if it's on the side of the case.

Ah yes thanks.

Well Goat what did ya find out?

Wermz84 · « **Reply #14 on:** Jul 04, 2006, 03:07:53 PM »

**Revive** But now I'm having the noise!

Problem -- Loud ticking, clicking type noise, mostly under acceleration.
Checked -- Timing = 5 Deg BTDC
Valves = Just got done rechecking them. All good, one a tiny bit loose, one a tiny bit tight

OK, everything leads me to think the timing chain guide. I shined a flash light down there while the cover was off but they looked ok. even poked at them with a screw driver, no movement. Any thing else I can test before I just tear it apart? Maybee there broken lower. Maybee the tensioner is stuck and it's slapping against the guide??

I did just notice puting it all back together that my air box has a 7" crack on the bottom around the carb.

could this be affecting my vacuum advance? don't think so? Could explain why I only hear it under ecceleration.

going to buy a new box tomorrow after the holiday..

johnboy · « **Reply #15 on:** Jul 06, 2006, 03:09:36 AM »

Its sounds like your timing chain guide is broken below your view. mine broke about 3 weeks ago, cost me a new timing chain assembly (crank & cam gears, guides and chain) some JB weld (to fix the crack in the front cover)2 head gaskets, #4 intake vavle (<<my fault) 38/38 weber carb+offenhauser intake, and oil. all in all about $500+ dollars. bwst thing to do is buy the timing set, but make sure to buy a head gasket,oil pan gasket, sealant (right stuff silicone or gaskecinch) and a 18 paxk of beer before its too late.

RustyToy · « **Reply #16 on:** Jul 09, 2006, 05:43:12 PM »

hey! take a long screw driver and listen to your fuel pump...

Wermz84 · « **Reply #17 on:** Aug 01, 2006, 07:52:56 AM »

Quote from: johnboy on Jul 06, 2006, 03:09:36 AM

Its sounds like your timing chain guide is broken below your view.

this is kinda what I was thinking.

Quote from: RustyToy on Jul 09, 2006, 05:43:12 PM

hey! take a long screw driver and listen to your fuel pump...

Are you being serious? If so how will this help please?

RustyToy · « **Reply #18 on:** Aug 05, 2006, 09:26:18 PM »

Those fuel pumps can get really loud.

jimbo74 · « **Reply #19 on:** Aug 05, 2006, 09:33:33 PM »

wermz, youve never heard of the long screwdriver trick? its an old mechanics trick...... basically, it acts as a stethoscope and intensifies the noise, it also wont pick up all noise, and pretty much just picks up what you touch the end to

GoaT · « **Reply #20 on:** Aug 15, 2006, 06:30:49 PM »

ok. so i replace the timing chain.

i broke a guide

and almose tore up my cover. it was pretty damaged but nothing jb weld wouldn fix

.

only think now is my oil pump is making a lil bit of noise. like tiny ballberrings spinning around. should i be worried?

ah and the head still make a lil noise buy not scary just like a sewing machine.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #21 on:** Aug 15, 2006, 06:35:54 PM »

i have a good timing cover, send me $20 and its yours, i'll pay the shipping

or better yet i'll save it for ya till Halloween at Gilmer

GoaT · « **Reply #22 on:** Aug 15, 2006, 06:38:39 PM »

where is gilmer? and ill just leave it. dont feel like pulling the head again

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #23 on:** Aug 15, 2006, 06:48:09 PM »

Quote from: GoaT on Aug 15, 2006, 06:38:39 PM

where is gilmer? and ill just leave it. dont feel like pulling the head again

Gilmer Tx you ninny, um its north of Longveiw

jimbo74 · « **Reply #24 on:** Aug 15, 2006, 06:56:54 PM »

did you clean pout the oil pan? if you broke a guide, that menas there a bunch of little pieces floating around..... and that noise could be that, or oil starvation, as those little pieces can and will clog up oil passages

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #25 on:** Aug 15, 2006, 06:59:15 PM »

i hate to say it but yea Jim is right

make sure you got those pieces out

4inchToyotas · « **Reply #26 on:** Aug 16, 2006, 05:39:19 AM »

Sewing machine = typical 22r from my experience. Mine sounds like a diesel a lot but that's due to the cam and head, since it was rebuilt before I put in in.

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #27 on:** Aug 16, 2006, 08:57:10 AM »

Quote from: 79Coyotefrg on Aug 15, 2006, 06:59:15 PM

i hate to say it but yea Jim is right

make sure you got those pieces out

Now look what you did his head swelled up like a balloon, but since Glen let the cat out of the bag you do probably have some shavings in the pump and would be something to be worried about.

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