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2nd gen dash swap
« on: Aug 20, 2003, 12:17:19 AM »
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tearin :pokinit: out

This piece was the big PITA of taking appart the dash(next to like 15 wasps ) I found that one I poped out the vents it was allot easyer then trying to take the top piece on the pass side out first.



Got the top piece   :beer:


got the dash out, I think later I will put in the ac, yes ac  :eyebrow: :yupyup: but for now I will just keep the 82 air and if I can heater


before pic (hopefully it will be better afterwards  :nerv:)  threw the old steering wheel in for good measure   :bull crap:


Annnnndd, this is how I left it  :sleeping: Im  :crossed: on this one, probally gonna end up making some butch ass brakets  :o oh well aslong as you cant see them from the outside  :angel:
« Last Edit: Aug 22, 2003, 03:45:09 PM by rEdnECkwHeE1eR »
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Re:2nd gen dash swap
« Reply #1 on: Aug 22, 2003, 03:59:41 PM »
I got it 99% done :king: but my camera broke or ran out of batteries so this is the last pic I have, I guess i will have to find some batteries and see if thats the prob :greengrin: but it all fit fine all I did was have to drill a couple holes in the metal peice from the 85 that has the vin plate on it to match the taped holes in te cab, I *should* have drilled 4 but only did 2 because I was using a POS drill that my mom got at a yard sale for $1 :smack: :smack: :smack: also, the dash didnt really fit with the heater in there so I took it out, and Im hoping the heater and AC shtuff will work in there  :biggthumpup:
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Re:2nd gen dash swap
« Reply #2 on: Aug 24, 2003, 06:35:08 PM »
I thought that the frame thing from the 85 was important to hold up the dash, but after I realized everthing would bolt to the metal peice that has the vin plate on it I drilled some new holes in it and bolted and started putting in the new dash, it was pie from there out, one problem I had was that my 82 had a factory tach, and the 85 didn't which meant I couln't use the 85 dash because the hook up for the speedo was in the middle on the non tach and off to the right on the tach, and the cable wouln't come close to reaching the middle. because I used this pod it meant I would have to cut the plastic piece that the pod mounts to(the mounts didn't line up with my pod so Its just wedged in there) also, there are gaps on both sides of the pod which I dont really care but if you do you should go find a 2nd gen pod with a tach, or if your truck didn't come with one and the dash you want has a tach I'll trade ya
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Re:2nd gen dash swap
« Reply #3 on: Sep 09, 2003, 08:41:15 PM »
GET YOUR CAMIA WORKING!!! I wont to see some pics of how it looks now!! would love to do that on my 83! red you get 1 appaud from me!
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Re:2nd gen dash swap
« Reply #4 on: Nov 12, 2003, 07:50:24 AM »
Wow that's too much work for a dash I think it would have been easier to just go out and buy a 85 Toyota Truck !!!!  Besides I had an 82, then a 83, and now a 85 and I think this is the best one of all. :psss: :moon:
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Re:2nd gen dash swap
« Reply #5 on: Dec 26, 2003, 10:38:26 PM »
a little off topic but in the same area, does anybody know if an '82-83 cluster is a direct swap for a '79-81 cluster?  i like the little bit cleaner look of the '82-83 gauges, and everything looks about the same dimension

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Re:2nd gen dash swap
« Reply #6 on: Dec 26, 2003, 11:21:10 PM »
The 79-80 20R trucks use two round plugs with round terminal pins, whereas the 81 and newer uses 2 or 3 flat plugs with flat terminals. Also, begining in 81, Toyota used two differance wiring harnesses--std and SR5. ! have rewired a std truck to accept the SR5 tach dash :headscratch: I had to idenifly each wire, remove it from the plug with a pin tool, and proply install in the right slot for the SR5 dash :smack:  Marlin
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Re:2nd gen dash swap
« Reply #7 on: Feb 13, 2004, 08:33:14 AM »
there is a how to on swapping those gauges from Barney that I used, it was very straighforward, just required pushing out pins and moving them around - and adding a tach wire. But this is simply a SR5 swap, not different years..

For the record, here are the pinout of SR5 vs non-SR5 gauge for 83:

SR5     non-SR5     wire color       function
 1        1            GY           Right turn signal indicator
 2        
 3        3            BR (B BR)    Speed sensor (-) ground
 4        6            GL           Speed sensor (+)
 5
 6
 7        23           YG           Water temp gauge
 8        9            RW           Panel lights (+)

 9        15           YR           Fuel Gauge
10        12           Y            Ignition switched power
11        21           YB           Oil Pressure switch (idiot light)
12        22           YW           Charge (idiot light)
13        14           WB           Ground
14                                  Tach input - must be wired to igniter
                                                 yellow
15        17           GB           Left turn signal indicator
16        16           RB           Panel lights (-)

17
18
19        11           G            4WD
20
21        19           BY           Seat belt
22
23        13           RG           High Beam
24        20           GW           Brake

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Santa Cruz, Ca.              8" alloy rims; 31" BFG A/Ts
                             Newly added SR5 Gauge Set :-)
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Re: 2nd gen dash swap
« Reply #8 on: Nov 30, 2004, 12:54:06 PM »
I am doing a 2nd gen dash swap but also a 22RE swap.   I have been looking for tech articles on a bunch of boards for the 1st gen to 2nd gen dash swap.  Did you just dive into it?  Any other info or hints  you can give me?  Can the 1st gen steering column be utilized?  And could I just put a 2nd gen steering wheel on the 1st gen shaft?  I'm assuming the older wheel is larger than the newer wheel.

It sounds like you used the 85 vin plate instead of the original.  Are the windshield curves about the same?  Does the throttle pedal have to be upgraded as well?

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Re: 2nd gen dash swap
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2005, 11:10:41 AM »
im intrested in doing this also... Please post some pics afater you finished it.

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Re: 2nd gen dash swap
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2005, 12:31:15 PM »
ol ReD don't come around here no more.

I wish he had put some more up, I like to do this to.
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Re: 2nd gen dash swap
« Reply #11 on: Jan 15, 2008, 06:25:23 PM »
I swapped the whole dash from an '86 4Runner into my '83. I dont have step by step pictures, but I do have pictures of me doing it. I will have to find them and post them up.

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Re: 2nd gen dash swap
« Reply #12 on: Jan 16, 2008, 12:23:18 AM »
Ok, I cant for the life of me figure out how to post a picture, but I found a couple.

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Re: 2nd gen dash swap
« Reply #13 on: Jan 10, 2010, 03:22:50 PM »
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Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
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Re: 2nd gen dash swap
« Reply #14 on: Jan 11, 2010, 10:23:40 AM »
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Wow. I will keep this thread in mind if I can find my pictures. They probably aren't too much different from Redneck's. (Not necessarily step-by-step)

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Re: 2nd gen dash swap
« Reply #15 on: Jan 11, 2010, 07:26:36 PM »
I went from first gen directly to third gen (because that is what doner truck came up). The project came out well...I swaped the complete dash and wiring because it was simpler for me, less thinking. The A/C and heater ducts were the hardest part. If you have a doner, its one step at a time. I think EFI in any TOYYOTA is a plus....

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« Reply #16 on: Jan 11, 2010, 07:30:00 PM »
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Re: 2nd gen dash swap
« Reply #17 on: Feb 17, 2010, 11:51:28 PM »
any pics? or diagrams of swappin it?javascript:void(0);

The 79-80 20R trucks use two round plugs with round terminal pins, whereas the 81 and newer uses 2 or 3 flat plugs with flat terminals. Also, begining in 81, Toyota used two differance wiring harnesses--std and SR5. ! have rewired a std truck to accept the SR5 tach dash :headscratch: I had to idenifly each wire, remove it from the plug with a pin tool, and proply install in the right slot for the SR5 dash :smack:  Marlin
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Re: 2nd gen dash swap
« Reply #18 on: Feb 18, 2010, 07:23:37 PM »
OK, There has been some recent interest in this swap. The rest of the story. I have a 83 that I swapped in a 91 EFI  (22re). I had a complete doner truck that was wrecked, so I had everything, EVERYTHING. The engine, trans, and rear axle are a drop in. I went with Marlin dual ultimate 23 spline, because why not if your in this deep. You need to move the trans cross member back ( I moved the factory mount tabs Rt. to Lt. and made new inside tabs) and bought the dual case cross member from Marlin. You need the smaller 2 wheel drive EFI fuel tank for a direct bolt in and plug in. Use the EFI tail pipe and CAT, Muffler all the way out with all the O2 sensers. I swapped in the entire wiring, head lamp to taillamp. A third gen dash will fit, (with trimming) in a first gen cab. I spent more time at this point, to get all the A/C and heating ducts in order. Before you can do a CA. smog check, you need the CHP vin check (for the dash swap) and the Smog referee for the engine swap. I jumped through all the hoops...Is it worth it...YES!!!! I know every bolt and wire in my truck. It is worth it for me.
 

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« Reply #19 on: Feb 23, 2010, 05:19:16 PM »
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Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
So dont tell me I spelled it wrong! You knew what I ment.

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Re: 2nd gen dash swap
« Reply #20 on: Nov 20, 2014, 02:31:01 AM »
Ok. I got a 1981 toyota trekker im doing an 86 fuel injection swap. Tellbme how to post pics from myy phone and I will do this. I'm swapping swapping dashboards tomorrow.  I have pics of everything on my phone

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« Reply #21 on: Nov 20, 2014, 08:27:40 AM »
First of all, you need more posts to be allowed to post pictures.  We have a couple safety features that prevents 99% of spammers on this site. 

But yeah pictures will help future references.   :thumbs:
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« Reply #22 on: Nov 20, 2014, 09:11:22 AM »
How many posts do I need?  I just thought it might help others to post what I'm doing

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« Reply #23 on: Nov 20, 2014, 09:17:37 AM »
I believe 12 is the magic number. 

A bunch of that info is in the "New Member" section. http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?board=7.0  We like to say Hi to the newbies, and see what they are about.   :wave:
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Re: 2nd gen dash swap
« Reply #24 on: Nov 20, 2014, 11:01:05 AM »
Alright then ninja dude. Thanks for the help I will look into this a little later when I have more time.  I will continue to snap pics of my build tho

 
 
 
 
 

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