Topic: 86' Turbo 4Runner questions

[Volcom]

I found one for a good price.  A couple of things, #1 bad rod bearings, engine has 200K on it, the guy put a manual boost control and turned it up to 10 psi (   with that many miles on the motor).  Engine would require a rebuild.  I've heard the pistons are different than the 22R/RE.  What kind of pistions would you use in a rebuild?  I know forged are the way to go but for $500-600, kinda pricey.

#2, It's an auto.  I would be taking all my 5-speed stuff from my 84 4Runner and converting it.  Computer wise, are the turbo's different than the other 22RE autos?  Would a W56 hold up to the 22RET?

#3, It's an 86 so an SAS would be in order.  For all that trouble, is this 86 worth $2200?  Clean body and interior.  Cold AC. 

Sounds like a big project to me 

[Volcom [OP]]

Looks like the W56 wouldn't bolt up to that motor.  I would need an R series tranny.  Well, looks like I'll pass that 4Runner.  Those R series trannies are pretty pricey and I was hoping to swap the stuff I've already got rather than buy more stuff.  Good thought anyways 

[Skinny_Pedal]

for $2200 RUN AWAY. its not worth it bye anymeans. 

[Volcom [OP]]

for $2200 RUN AWAY. its not worth it bye anymeans. 

I thought it sounded like a deal.  I guess I don't know enough about the turbo's.  What kind of production #'s did they have?  They are really rare here in CO.  I don't see many at all.  Did the 22RET's come with anything but an auto tranny? 

[Skinny_Pedal]

yeah they came with the bad ass r151f tranny all 23spline and has the bigger v6 rear end. really the turbo motor inst anything special. i took my turbo truck and converted it to efi n/a. but i still have the trann, tcase, and rearend

[luigi]

Did the 22RET's come with anything but an auto tranny?

4runner turbos were all automatics.

[Volcom [OP]]

but the turbo trucks had both, correct?

[Skinny_Pedal]

but the turbo trucks had both, correct?

yes. one way to tell if it is an r151f is to look under the bellhousing and see if its has a black plug

[kneedownnate]

The difference in the pistons on a turbo engine is also the difference in the turbo engine itself, low compression to stave off detonation, you kinda hafta have it with a turbo.

#2; yes the computers are different, and I would think you would wanna pick up a manual tranny truck turbo computer, but on an 86 parts truck I had w/efi and an automatic it had seperate computers for the engine and tranny so?

#3; with a clean body and interior it's alsmost worth it, I'd offer as much as maybe $1800, but it all depends on how much you wanna spend. 

You are kinda gettin jipped on the goodies of a turbo truck since it's an automatic though.  If you get it and wanna make it useful there are a couple of companies that offer a manifold to mount a garret t3/t4 turbo which is superior to the stock turbo.  Hope this helps some

[Lunch Box]

I found one for a good price. A couple of things, #1 bad rod bearings, engine has 200K on it, the guy put a manual boost control and turned it up to 10 psi ( with that many miles on the motor). Engine would require a rebuild. I've heard the pistons are different than the 22R/RE. What kind of pistions would you use in a rebuild? I know forged are the way to go but for $500-600, kinda pricey.

#2, It's an auto. I would be taking all my 5-speed stuff from my 84 4Runner and converting it. Computer wise, are the turbo's different than the other 22RE autos? Would a W56 hold up to the 22RET?

#3, It's an 86 so an SAS would be in order. For all that trouble, is this 86 worth $2200? Clean body and interior. Cold AC.

Sounds like a big project to me

my buddy just sold his 22rtec 4 runner......it used to have an auto wich went out and we put a w56 in it, all you have to do is literally bolt the trans and the top shift t case in and it all bolts up even with the crossmember......as far as it holding up he did go through one tranny but he drives his runner like it's a race car, and it did have a fully built motor with an aftermarket t3/t4 turbo and was running 14psi....as far as the electrics the stock ecu works just fine i beleive the trans is run off of it's own computer that can be removed, the only thing that didn't work in his for some reason was the speedo. it had the digital guage cluster, so that might be an issue other then that just add the pedals and clutch lines and it all works, just don't drive it like it's a rice rocket

[e_cliff]

any 4cly tranny will bolt up, but the r151 is made to handlke to higher output of the turbo and v6 engines, if you have the cash buy it, i personnally would not buy it for 2200 unless the engine was good and it was super clean, just a heads up