Author Topic: Driving: a privilege or a right. (Read 6814 times)

gonzo · « **on:** Jul 05, 2005, 01:58:08 PM »

Do you feel that driving a vehicle is a privilege or do you feel that you have the right to drive.

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #1 on:** Jul 05, 2005, 02:04:53 PM »

Its a privilage no doubt. Unless you built the road you drive on with your own 2 hands its a privilage.

*FFC* · « **Reply #2 on:** Jul 05, 2005, 02:06:10 PM »

Deffinately a privilege

germ · « **Reply #3 on:** Jul 05, 2005, 02:18:22 PM »

Privilege for sure.

gonzo · « **Reply #4 on:** Jul 05, 2005, 02:22:07 PM »

Quote from: germ on Jul 05, 2005, 02:18:22 PM

Privilege for sure.

Quote from: FordFreakChik on Jul 05, 2005, 02:06:10 PM

Deffinately a privilege

Why?

OffRoadGal · « **Reply #5 on:** Jul 05, 2005, 02:24:06 PM »

absolutely a priveledge and an abused one at that. People believe it is there RIGHT to drive. They have a right to cut you off and put make on or shave while careening down the interstate at 80 mph.

BLACKWIDOW · « **Reply #6 on:** Jul 05, 2005, 02:24:25 PM »

A privilege, like with all things in life. You earn, you maintain it. Same concept can pretty much apply to life in general, like close the gate after you and if it's not yours, don't touch it. Simple, really and it works.

88runner · « **Reply #7 on:** Jul 05, 2005, 02:47:13 PM »

Quote from: gonzo on Jul 05, 2005, 02:22:07 PM

Why?

It's a previlege, there's so many people that all of us think their license should be removed, now imagine if everybody could get a license simply by asking for it.

germ · « **Reply #8 on:** Jul 05, 2005, 02:48:12 PM »

At the risk of sounding like a smart ass. It's not covered by the Constitution. Nowhere in state or federal Constitution doesn't say that driving is a right. The only things covered by the constitution are "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The secoond amendment covers the right to bear arms. I'm not aware of any amendment that covers driving.

Granted, it's become kind of a neccesity, but it is not a right. Therefore, if you break the law (tickets, DUI, etc.) that right can be taken away. There are plenty of people who should have their privilege revoked if you ask me.

Erik

*FFC* · « **Reply #9 on:** Jul 05, 2005, 02:59:13 PM »

Simple,

Rights can not be taken away, privileges can. Irresponsible, mentally unstable, and physically unstable people obviously do not belong behind the wheel. So, they lose their privilege to drive. Some have a choice to the privilege some don't.

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #10 on:** Jul 05, 2005, 04:29:50 PM »

Privelege for sure. if it is abused, the privelege gets taken away, that simple

mudmaster · « **Reply #11 on:** Jul 05, 2005, 04:43:07 PM »

Quote from: BLACKDOG on Jul 05, 2005, 04:29:50 PM

Privilege for sure. if it is abused, the privilege gets taken away, that simple

seaflea · « **Reply #12 on:** Jul 05, 2005, 04:48:11 PM »

Privelege..... You have the right to loose it though!

Lady Di · « **Reply #13 on:** Jul 05, 2005, 05:10:04 PM »

Quote from: FordFreakChik on Jul 05, 2005, 02:59:13 PM

Simple,

Rights can not be taken away, privileges can. Irresponsible, mentally unstable, and physically unstable people obviously do not belong behind the wheel. So, they lose their privilege to drive. Some have a choice to the privilege some don't.

Rights can be taken away when you commit crimes, but you are basically right.

Quote from: 88runner on Jul 05, 2005, 02:47:13 PM

It's a previlege, there's so many people that all of us think their license should be removed, now imagine if everybody could get a license simply by asking for it.

I have met European's that like to come over and get a license in America just because it is so dang easy. They have much more stringent tests for getting a license in Europe (or so I am told). It is not just a matter of navigating some course and answering some memorized questions.

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #14 on:** Jul 06, 2005, 12:54:53 AM »

It is your right to have a drivers licsense not a privilage, as long as you take all the right steps and pass all the tests you have a legal right to have it. It's just a scare tactic when they say it's a privilage. Just for the sake of argument is it a privilage to be free? I think not, it is your right to be free just like it is your right to have a license. A privilage could be taken away from you without reason, when it is a right you would need to violate a law for them to take it away. Just like your freedom, if it were a privilage they could take your freedom away just because and they can't.

gonzo · « **Reply #15 on:** Jul 06, 2005, 06:02:45 AM »

Does paying taxes to build the freeways, highways and roads have anything to do with it being a right or privilege? I buy my own vehicle. I pay insurance.

OffRoadGal · « **Reply #16 on:** Jul 06, 2005, 06:34:03 AM »

you have a right to own a vehicle, but it's a priveledge to be able to drive it.

gonzo · « **Reply #17 on:** Jul 06, 2005, 06:49:32 AM »

What's the difference between a privilege and a right?

OffRoadGal · « **Reply #18 on:** Jul 06, 2005, 06:50:50 AM »

a right is something they can't take away from you? Of course, if you don't pay for your car they can take it away.

gonzo · « **Reply #19 on:** Jul 06, 2005, 06:52:18 AM »

So a felon doen't lose their right to vote?

OffRoadGal · « **Reply #20 on:** Jul 06, 2005, 06:53:57 AM »

as you can see, I wrote above that if you are arrested you loose your rights. Reply #13 Guess I should have been more specific, because you do have to be charged with a felony to loose your right to vote.

gonzo · « **Reply #21 on:** Jul 06, 2005, 07:00:05 AM »

So.....they can come up to me and take away my driving privileges for no reason. I'm just tring to understand.

SB: Mornin

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #22 on:** Jul 06, 2005, 07:07:50 AM »

Quote from: OffRoadGal on Jul 06, 2005, 06:50:50 AM

a right is something they can't take away from you? Of course, if you don't pay for your car they can take it away.

I guess we live in a country of privileges then.

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #23 on:** Jul 06, 2005, 07:18:59 AM »

Ok then, even the dictionary says that a privilege is a right, that in itself tells me I've always been right, they just throw out the "privilege" word to scare you, and that we are a country of privileges:

1. A special advantage, immunity, permission, right, or benefit granted to or enjoyed by an individual, class, or caste. See Synonyms at right. b. Such an advantage, immunity, or right held as a prerogative of status or rank, and exercised to the exclusion or detriment of others.

The principle of granting and maintaining a special right or immunity: a society based on privilege.

BUBBA · « **Reply #24 on:** Jul 06, 2005, 07:26:27 AM »

I guess from what the dictionary says a right is a privilege and a privilege is a right.So that pretty much means there the same,right.

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #25 on:** Jul 06, 2005, 07:42:43 AM »

Quote from: rocktoy35 on Jul 06, 2005, 07:26:27 AM

I guess from what the dictionary says a right is a privilege and a privilege is a right.So that pretty much means there the same,right.

germ · « **Reply #26 on:** Jul 06, 2005, 09:29:52 AM »

While it's hard to argue with Webster's dictionary, I think if you get a lawyer involved he would be able to explain the difference. There are some legal differences between the right and a privilege but the line is very fuzzy. Either way, both are granted by the government and if abused can be taken away.

It is true that felons lose the right to vote. There is some senator who is trying to pass a bill that will restore their right to vote in hopes that they will increase voter turnout. My feeling is that if you can't play by the rules of the society then you lose the rights that are granted by society.

Erik

gonzo · « **Reply #27 on:** Jul 06, 2005, 10:24:14 AM »

Quote from: germ on Jul 06, 2005, 09:29:52 AM

While it's hard to argue with Webster's dictionary, I think if you get a lawyer involved he would be able to explain the difference. There are some legal differences between the right and a privilege but the line is very fuzzy. Either way, both are granted by the government and if abused can be taken away.

It is true that felons lose the right to vote. There is some senator who is trying to pass a bill that will restore their right to vote in hopes that they will increase voter turnout. My feeling is that if you can't play by the rules of the society then you lose the rights that are granted by society.

Erik

Lawyer? Nah.....just want to know what you believe germ. Not using Webster's, lawbooks or what your Mom told you (I must admit the Mom thing might be hard to escape).

germ · « **Reply #28 on:** Jul 06, 2005, 01:43:38 PM »

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just want to know what you believe germ

I guess i look at a RIGHT as something that cannot be taken away. It is something that is guaranteed by virtue of the fact that i live in the USA.

. A privilege is something that I have to earn, and can be taken away if I fail to be responsible with that privilege.

As an example:
Because of my education and training, I have the privilege of providing medical care for people. If I don't practice good medicine, then that privilege can be taken from me.

On the other hand, Since I live in the USA, I have the right to free speech. No matter what anyone else thinks about my opinions, I can share them. There is not the possibility that someone can shut me up, no matter what I say. (Now, that doesn't mean that everyone has to agree with me, or like what I say, but I can go on saying what I wish).

There are definatly some grey areas here. For the most part, that is the distinction in my mind. As far as driving goes, as long as I follow the rules, and maintain my ability to drive safely, then I can keep my drivers license, which does give me the RIGHT to drive. If however i fail to do this, then i can loose my license and cannot leagally drive. This in my mind makes driving a privilege, and not a right.

Does that make sense? Basically it comes down to symantics. While the two words are essentially synonyms, I think there is a very subtle but real distinction between the two.

Erik

gonzo · « **Reply #29 on:** Jul 06, 2005, 02:15:24 PM »

Things that can't be taken away, unless you allow it: beliefs, opinions, feelings, thoughts.

Things that can be taken away: Everything else.

A privilege is a second chance at having rights returned to you. To be continued..........

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