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Supercharged Diesel ?
« on: Jun 23, 2005, 07:53:26 PM »
Anybody ever try a supercharger on a diesel instead of a turbo? It should have less lag.  :dunno:
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Re: Supercharged Diesel ?
« Reply #1 on: Jun 23, 2005, 08:10:26 PM »
I found this article and it stays in line with our forum too.    (note: I have to break up the article since it is soooooo long)

Variety, so they say, is the spice of life and that’s certainly the case with Toyota’s new 100 Series Landcruiser. With a total of eleven models in the range, there’s certainly something for everyone. Nonetheless, media hype and attention has tended to focus on the V8 Landcruiser, with a spattering of reports on those models with the six-cylinder petrol engine.

As for the diesel six, well, it may be the bread and butter model, but with the lowest power output in the range (a claimed 96kW) it doesn’t create too much excitement and therefore doesn’t seem to have attracted much media attention. And of course, the diesel’s future is secured anyway, as it’ll be the automatic choice for farmers, outback fleet operators, mining companies and die-hard four wheel drive enthusiasts. These more ‘traditional’ operators will simply accept the diesel 100’s lack of power as a cross they have to bear for wanting rugged reliability and fuel economy.

Yet imagine if all those traditional diesel values could be combined with improved power and performance, while maintaining the benefits of diesel fuel economy. It’s no dream and having driven the Powerhouse Performance supercharged diesel-six we tend to feel that Toyota’s forgotten child could suddenly find itself being accepted by a whole new market sector as well. A number of development vehicles and prototypes have been put on the road over the past 18 months or so, but the vehicle featured here is the first 100 in the country to be fitted with a complete, market ready kit from Sprintex sister company, Powerhouse Performance.

We’ve previously covered the details of how Sprintex and Powerhouse are related, suffice it to say that Powerhouse is in effect the public face of Sprintex, which is itself owned by International automotive natural gas experts, Transcom International. Danny Williams, the man spearheading the whole diesel 100 supercharger project, has been aiming to release a Sprintex supercharger kit for the diesel Cruiser later this year. Nonetheless, Williams believes that market demands simply couldn’t wait any longer and he has therefore unveiled a Powerhouse Performance kit using an imported Eaton supercharger to get things up and running.

So does this mean there will be two kits on offer eventually ? The answer is an affirmative, yes ! The heart of the matter on the vehicle your looking at here is an Eaton M90 high helix style supercharger, exactly the same as found under the bonnet of the latest V6 Holden Commodore. When the Sprintex kit comes on line later this year (no exact date has been given), it will be based around a supercharger manufactured in Melbourne and featuring the installation componentry as part of the supercharger itself.

This Sprintex supercharger kit will in many ways be an ‘evolution’ of the present Powerhouse kit, with extra features and refinements. Don’t go thinking that it’d be better to hold off and wait for these extra features however, because the price for the Sprintex kit will rise accordingly too. And, as far as this author is concerned, the Powerhouse supercharger kit does so much to improve Toyota’s diesel six anyway.

Quite frankly, the Powerhouse supercharger kit transforms the diesel 100 Series Landcruiser into a raging bull. It doesn’t turn the Cruiser into a tyre screeching street rod and the diesel will never match its big V8 brother for sheer performance, but the addition of a supercharger does close the gap somewhat. Bull is probably a good adjective too. The Landcruiser is never going to be a lion in the 4WD jungle, especially as all models in the new 100 series range have gained extra weight over the previous generation.

Perhaps though, city streets with their traffic lights and stop signs are probably not what the diesel six was intended for. Yet driving the diesel in such an environment before the supercharger went on was nothing short of an embarrassment. Powerhouse dynoed the vehicle before fitment and recorded a pathetic 45kW at all four wheels - a significant drivetrain loss from the claimed 96kW engine figure by Toyota.

The lack of pulling power was evident in all sorts of situations, from taking off at traffic lights to overtaking manoeuvres. The latter led to some interesting situations in fact, due to the Keep Left law which is still fairly new in Western Australia. Attempting to pass a vehicle slower than the diesel 100 automatic (and there weren’t many !) saw one ‘stuck’ in the overtaking lane, with the accelerator pedal being forced into the floor and all to no avail ! Equally, filtering down from off-ramps onto highways and freeways was best accomplished by staying left as much as possible, due to the fact that it took an eternity to go from 60kmh up to the legal 100kmh - with a traffic queue developing behind and those already doing 100kmh wondering why the hell some idiot in a Landcruiser had decided to park next to the off-ramp !!

It was with eager anticipation therefore, that we returned a few days later to drive the 100 with its new supercharger on board. Considering that this is what customers across Australia will be presented with, a quick glance under the bonnet was in order to check the quality of installation. As can be seen from the photos, everything looks neat, fits well and the blower actually looks like a factory fitment. If there is one negative comment to be made, it would have to be in regards to the ugly black custom intake manifold. Still, Danny Williams assures us that ‘evolution’ will take care of this.

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Re: Supercharged Diesel ?
« Reply #2 on: Jun 23, 2005, 08:12:10 PM »
As can be seen from the photos, the supercharger sits on the left hand side of the engine bay and receives its air supply via the vehicles stock air intake system including filter. The compressed air then exits and travels through more stock plumbing to the equally stock intake manifold. Very little in the engine bay is modified and great care has been taken to integrate the supercharger in with existing componentry.

Countless hours were spent planning the supercharger’s belt drive system in particular, with a custom ‘slip over’ pulley now used to drive both the air conditioning unit and the supercharger. Arriving at this method was a long haul that involved everything from rubber dampeners to a reversion to the pre 1995 pulley system. As is well known, the engine in the diesel six 100 Series Cruiser is essentially the HZ 75 engine that has been around right back to the 80 Series. In 1995, Toyota changed their harmonic balancer which added 27mm to its overall length, so simply bolting another pulley on for a supercharger would have put the fan into the radiator !

The custom slip over pulley negates this extra projection, but has been designed such that all other stock pulleys and belts do not move from factory set positions. Much planning also went into the actual operation of the supercharger, particularly when it comes to idling and cruising. Under these conditions, the supercharger will continue to spin, yet the compressed air isn’t being used and so a special throttle body is included to maintain smooth driving and overall efficiency. This throttle body is linked to the vehicle’s throttle mechanism and at idle or part throttle openings, the butterfly ‘restricts’ the air entering the supercharger.

Although the butterfly never fully closes, it does so enough to create a small vacuum which in itself lowers the effective compression ratio and hence produces a smoother idle. The overall smoothness of these refinements was more than evident when driving away from Powerhouse to give the set up a good test run. Mind you, the initial impression was one of sheer deception. On the one hand, the diesel 100 still felt big and heavy, while acceleration, although vastly improved, didn’t induce whiplash. Yet a glance at the speedo suddenly revealed that this big bull was galloping along at 95kmh and yet we were only in a 60 zone. Whooooo boy, steady on !!

When higher speeds were allowed, on the Tonkin Highway, the first thing to be noted was that the tacho needle was sitting on 2,200rpm. Two days previous on the same stretch of road (flat and level) and at the same 100kmh without the supercharger, the tacho had been sitting at 2,900rpm. It’s something I had deliberately wanted to check, after seeing the same, phenomenon in a supercharged Range Rover and hearing about how modern superchargers improved the general operating efficiency of engines. It seems clear that the reduction in engine speed whilst cruising at least, would account for a reduction in fuel consumption. This in turn matches up to other reports I’d heard about superchargers producing fuel economy improvements. *** Many people have emailed 4WD Encounter commenting that the above test drive (claiming a dramatic reduction in engine revs) must be inaccurate. 4WD Encounter would love the opportunity to have this phenomenon demonstrated to us, because our understanding is that the fitting of a supercharger does not effect the gearbox or final drive ratios of a vehicle, therefore the engine must do the same revs if at the same speed and in the same gear.

Perhaps the best way to sum it up is that the engine now produces significantly more torque throughout the entire rev range and therefore doesn’t have to perform so hard in order to produce work effort. And, with a nice fat 407Nm of torque on hand, the Powerhouse supercharger kit sure isn’t short on grunt. This was particularly noticeable while travelling up Kalamunda Road, probably the steepest hill in suburban Perth. Admittedly, we hadn’t taken the vehicle up this incline without the supercharger fitted, yet it was amazing just how much pulling power was on tap.

The 60kmh speed limit was quickly reached with little effort, although the real test came when I deliberately slowed the diesel 100 down to 10kmh on a particularly steep stretch (after checking the traffic behind of course !) and then put the boot into her. Incredibly, she just dug in and worked her way up to the legal 60kmh with little fuss and without the engine screaming its head off trying to create useable power.

There were a couple of occasions when the automatic gear stick was dropped back into 2, but this had no long term benefit and it seems in fact that the engine had lost its ability to generate significant power in the upper reaches of the rev counter. In other words, the Powerhouse supercharger kit is all about low down, useable, practical grunt. The Cruiser will still go to 110kmh with little or no effort (and a wee bit beyond I’d imagine !), but it’s all done without attracting attention and without creating a song and dance. Even so, those with a sporting twist might get a few kicks from this kit and I couldn’t help but wonder that if we were in a manual diesel 100 the fun factor might have come into it even more.

As it stands, the gearing on the automatic diesel that this first kit is attached to was all wrong - although more before the fitting of the supercharger. Im many ways, the supercharger made up for the gears being automatically changed too soon, something that left the stock cruiser ‘bogged’ in the outside lane or wherever as explained above.

But of course, we can hear what you’re all asking - how did she go off the road. To tell the truth we didn’t conduct extensive tests in this department, although several hours were spent playing in some pretty deep sand tracks on the outskirts of Perth. Quite frankly, the sheer low down torque is such a joy in the deep stuff, both with the low range engaged and disengaged. Equally, both with the all wheel drive button on the centre console switched on and off, the diesel 100 just ploughed through regardless.

This is undoubtedly where those traditional diesel customers will rejoice. The ruggedness and economy of the beloved diesel can now be matched to the grunt needed for towing that equipment up a 1:2 incline after heavy rains have turned the surface into a quagmire. Or, you can now take the shortcut through that deep boggy sand when it’s time to take some feed out to your livestock. Yet the Powerhouse supercharger kit now opens up the Series 100 diesel landcruiser to a whole new suburban market.

Admittedly, those V8 customers probably won’t be interested, nor perhaps the petrol six Landcruiser buyer. Yet for those to whom fuel economy is important, the diesel 100 with a supercharger kit is a viable option for the city. Those dashes between traffic lights are now less hassle and you don’t have to sit behind learner drivers, buses and taxis for fear of becoming trapped in the outside lane.           (c) Rick McDowell 1999

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Re: Supercharged Diesel ?
« Reply #3 on: Jun 23, 2005, 08:18:40 PM »
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Re: Supercharged Diesel ?
« Reply #4 on: Jun 23, 2005, 08:32:10 PM »
Cool now I need to find one to fit my 2.2L.
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Re: Supercharged Diesel ?
« Reply #5 on: Jun 23, 2005, 08:38:59 PM »
How'd I know that was what you were thinking about doing? :driving:

At least you now know it is possible. :biggthumpup:
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Re: Supercharged Diesel ?
« Reply #6 on: Jun 23, 2005, 10:03:39 PM »
some detroit 2 strokes had both turbo and supercharger
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Re: Supercharged Diesel ?
« Reply #7 on: Jun 24, 2005, 03:41:51 AM »
How'd I know that was what you were thinking about doing? :driving:

At least you now know it is possible. :biggthumpup:

I know it is possible, I just woundered if anybody has done it and how it works.

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Re: Supercharged Diesel ?
« Reply #8 on: Jun 24, 2005, 07:27:41 AM »
hey mr willy
 how about the charger off a late model buick. some fwd v6s had one on them.
i'm sure with your fab skills you could make it work.
 by the way, the willys buildup is looking great. you have many talents and it shows.
not everybody could or would do the things it took to get that thing going.
keep up the great work. maybe i'll see ya at tellico sometime.
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Re: Supercharged Diesel ?
« Reply #9 on: Jun 24, 2005, 06:26:35 PM »
I have been researching this and it looks like the Paxton or Vortec superchargers would be easiest to install. I found some used ones on Ebay, but just wondering if anybody knows where I might find a deal?
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