Topic: 22RE to carb

[chevyLUVtoyota]

hi this kid has a 22RE out of a 92 truck what wud i have to do to put it in my 83 4x4 sortbed?
what carb set up?

thanks
thomas

[79coyotefrg]

hi this kid has a 22RE out of a 92 truck what wud i have to do to put it in my 83 4x4 sortbed?
what carb set up?

thanks
thomas

  um you could convert to run the efi,  butif you just want it carb, find a intake manifold for a 86 carb 22R

[kyle_22r]

any 22R intake manifold willl work as far as i know.  could always also buy an offy manifold but they run around $180 + 40 for the water plate if you don't have one already

[Weldo]

Are carbs capable of making more power than the EFI?  I noticed a lot of the performance crate motors at LC Engineering use multiple carbs instead of EFI.

[79coyotefrg]

for the efi to make substantial hp, ie over 185hp   you need a turbo,    if you want real horsepower let us know what year you have,
 for the 92 efi motor i would go with a add on garrett T3/T4 hybrid turbo

my hybrid should be putting 180+ to th ground  ie  200+ at the flywheel

[79coyotefrg]

with some stand alone efi fuel management a twin turbo, cam, balanced bottom end , and some other goodies 500+   would be easy

[Weldo]

I have a 91 22re.  I did see on LC's site they sell complete engine management systems.  I guess they would be completely tunablr for turbos and such.

When you say you have a hybrid, do you mean you have a 20R head on a 22RE block?  I heard this was common, but I forget why...

[kyle_22r]

20R heads have smaller valves, but the intake port is designed so the fuel charge gets a straight shot into the cylinder, unlike the 22R head where it has to go around a big lump.  lets the engine rev higher, and has a slightly smaller combustion dome so it'll raise compression.

[ToySoldiers]

not to butt in on u guys or anything  but horsepower looks good on paper but u drive on torque.  torque is derived from displacment.  a 500 horsepower or better four banger is only gonna make power at really high rpms i.e. 8000 or more power like that is kinda useless to me on a trail, find a few more inches of displacement rather than spend 15000 to 20000 on a 2. whatever.  Do you know what kind of power you can make with 15 grand in a small block? Thats the kinda power that will send a d-60 off with its tail between its legs ya know what i mean

[Weldo]

Sorry for all the hijacking...but if a 20R has smaller valves, can they be cut to fit a 22RE valve set, or even an oversized 22RE set?

[Weldo]

As far as the powerband of the 22RE, I believe it would make decent torque through-out the RPM range.  Also the I've heard the long stroke (3.62 inches) safely limits RPMs to around 6000.

[79coyotefrg]

um yes  the 20R head i have has 22R valves and valve seats , with a LCEngineering stage 2 race cam,,     compresson israised to over 10:1 190hp with a weber and close to that of torque,  man i need to find a chassis dyno    but i promise you  i can spank any V6

and toysoldier,  check out toysport.com   how about 1100 hp from a 22RE

[79coyotefrg]

not to butt in on u guys or anything  but horsepower looks good on paper but u drive on torque.  torque is derived from displacment.  a 500 horsepower or better four banger is only gonna make power at really high rpms i.e. 8000 or more power like that is kinda useless to me on a trail, find a few more inches of displacement rather than spend 15000 to 20000 on a 2. whatever.  Do you know what kind of power you can make with 15 grand in a small block? Thats the kinda power that will send a d-60 off with its tail between its legs ya know what i mean

how about bored .060 over and stroked,  fully balanced , deburred, 

[79coyotefrg]

As far as the powerband of the 22RE, I believe it would make decent torque through-out the RPM range. Also the I've heard the long stroke (3.62 inches) safely limits RPMs to around 6000.

    6000    ive had mine over 7500, very short time though

torque starts building in these little guys really low,  depending  on the cam profile and cam timing  anywhere from 1500-2500

[Weldo]

6000 ive had mine over 7500, very short time though

Really?  Wow.  I've had mine pretty high, but I don't have a tach at the moment, so I can't verify.  I'd imagine with a 3.62" stroke you wouldn't want to run 7500 RPMs too long.

Hey, 79Coyotefrg, do you have a thread somewhere about your motor or your build up of it or something.  Sounds like you have one helluva powerplant there.  I'm interested in doing something like you did to yours, to my motor.  I can see alot of potential in the 22RE, so what have you got in yours?

[79coyotefrg]

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=5628.0

[79coyotefrg]

http://209.250.27.45/m1webgear/ProductDetails.aspx?PartID=1012045&PartRevisionID=

this is pretty much it

[Cheesemaker]

I don't know were this thread went to, but I would go find a manifold and put a weber carb on it!!    I got rid of my hitachi pos, which is partially ran by the computer, and got a weber and I gained about 15% power and better gas mileage!  That's my  !  If you really want some more power put in a cam and exhaust.  And if you really want to go all out get it balanced and blueprinted, flat top pistons and such!  Still cheaper than LC!!