COVID Vaccine

[sirdeuce]

Overreacting Gnarls? No! But you do seem to pick and choose. I'll say it this way, all that is exposed to us is a lie in some manner. All politicians, including your beloved Donald Trump, lie to us. All media lies, if nothing more than editing pertinent info to swing the story the direction of the reopting entity's needs, or pure sensationalism. Doctors, lawyers, cops, insurance companies, scientists. The list has pratically no limit. Hell, most people lie to themselves.

Keep pointing all those things out that you see as, let's say less than honest. Chances are you are correct. It doesn't make a bit of differece though as people have FAITH in what they hear, and faith is a very strong force.

Oh, those superheroes you're looking for? Pfizer, J&J, Moderna, etc. all in the world news. They're saving us all! Lack of an actual war we need a villain to fight, let's create a pandemic.

[sirdeuce]

As for that "Did you get vaccinated poll? Nope, I caught the virus. Funny how they're pushing the vaccine as a better immunity than natural when the vaccine is modeled after the natural immune mechanism.

[Gnarly4X]

So in addition to being a gun-toting Bible-Clinging Deplorable... I'm a VHO!! "VeeHo".. Not only am I a bad-a$$.. I'm a Vaccine Hold Out!!

Gnarls.

[sirdeuce]

So in addition to being a gun-toting Bible-Clinging Deplorable... I'm a VHO!! "VeeHo".. No only am I a bad-a$$.. I'm a Vaccine Hold Out!!

Gnarls.

You think you're a bad , but at your age it's nore of just an 

Good! Stay away from that unapproved,politically pushed, media fear mongered vaccination. I won't get it either. Until the vaccine has been proven on long term efficacy
and dangerous side effects it's just a Russian roulette scenario.

Our people need to stop pushing agendas that have strong  potential of causing damage to the people of this country/planet. The people need to learn to pay attention as well.

[Gnarly4X]

Hey deucie...

You are a badder bada$$    than me, and you are a badder ass$  then me.....

... but if I were you, I wouldn't brag about! 

Gnarls.

[sirdeuce]

 Brag about it all the time!  My Bad days are behind me, too battered. Glory days were in the ARMY and just a steady decline from there. These days I'm lucky to get out of bed.

[Gnarly4X]

Brag about it all the time!  My Bad days are behind me, too battered. Glory days were in the ARMY and just a steady decline from there. These days I'm lucky to get out of bed.

Geezzz  deucie!!.. You are making me feel really "bad". 

Gnarls.

[sirdeuce]

Mandates, mandates, mandates! They still classify people into 2 categories, vaxxed and unvaxxed. Still disregarding the people that have had the infection. Still inflating the numbers towards the unvaxxed as well. They're pushing this vaccine beyond a health standpoint, feels like there's something more to this than they are letting on. Agenda 21 anybody?

[Gnarly4X]

Mandates, mandates, mandates! They still classify people into 2 categories, vaxxed and unvaxxed. Still disregarding the people that have had the infection. Still inflating the numbers towards the unvaxxed as well. They're pushing this vaccine beyond a health standpoint, feels like there's something more to this than they are letting on. Agenda 21 anybody?

It's all about CTM!!  Control The Masses!!

Gnarls.

[sirdeuce]

Wow! All the new varients to this virus kinda make you think about it's history and beginnings. The push for a 100% vax rate and a suppression of any existing countermeasures and info on natural immunity. Anything said supporting not vaccinating is quashed or labeled misinformation. Like;
The mRNA vax is actually weaker than natural immunity. The vaccine trains immune system to seek out certain proteins and not the whole spike protein (nutshell). The immune system, when introduced to a spike protein produced by the virus or the host will learn to seek out the whole protein.
Viruses can survive when attacked by antibodies looking for limited identifiers as the antibodies would go in half cocked. That would allow viruses to survive and learn, which would lead to mutations. Beta, gamma. delta, lambda......... That which doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

There are effective preemptive drugs available that have much fewer and less threatening side effects. I'll take that road.

[blackdiamond]

I just hope they have a sense of humor and send the Delta Force to enforce vaccine compliance.  Or if we're on to the Echo variant, it could be the other shot heard round the world.

[sirdeuce]

Echo variant? We be looking at the Lambda variant! Where have you been? Echo variant, pshaah, last weeks news.

[fasterspider]

I am just curious how many are planning to get the vaccine. If you have gotten it and are willing to report on any side effects that could be interesting.

J&J one and done shot with zero side effects or any immunal response. 🤔
My father in law died 1/23//2021 of complications due to COVID-19 and one of my friends lost all 7 people in his immediate family but, that ain't what convinced me to stick some crazy in my arm, it was Lucky Costa of Hot Rod Garage getting it and going right into the hospital not breathing too well, he just got out of that hospital today. I wasn't going to get the shot because I have the immune system of a super human and have not been sick since 1990 but, I do have a bad case of I used to smoke 2 to 4 packs a day and only have half my original lung capacity. I like breathing, it's good for living.
I did the Johnson & Johnson shot and I am still alive, I didn't even bleed when she took the needle out.

[Gnarly4X]

Not a single post here since August 16th?

"Current clinical management of COVID-19 consists of infection prevention and control measures and supportive care, including supplemental oxygen and mechanical ventilatory support when indicated. FDA has approved one drug, remdesivir (Veklury), for the treatment of COVID-19 in hospitalized patients aged 12 years and older who weigh at least 40 kg."

I called my family doctor yesterday.  I asked if I have symptoms of COVID-19 virus and I test positive with non-life-threatening (mild to moderate) symptoms how would he treat me?  He would only prescribe monoclonal anti-bodies as outpatient treatment.

If my symptoms were severe enough to be hospitalized, I may be administered remdesivir as only inpatient treatment.  Dexamethasone or other corticosteroids like prednisone or hydrocortisone may also be administered.

No other "conventional" therapies like hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin would be administered.

"The Panel suggests prioritizing the use of anti-SARS-CoV-2 mAbs only when triage becomes necessary due to logistical or supply constraints."

The bottomline is the corrupt government is in control of what treatment I get. If the doctors or hospital breaches the NIH and CDC "guidelines" the feds will shut down their practice.

Our government essentially is controlling who lives and who dies and it is "justified" by the "Panel". 

October 7, 2021
Updated COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel's Statement on the Prioritization of Anti-SARS-CoV-2 Monoclonal Antibodies for the Treatment or Prevention of SARS-CoV-2 Infection When There Are Logistical or Supply Constraints.

The Panel has recommended using anti-SARS-CoV-2 mAbs for the treatment of mild to moderate COVID-19 and for PEP of SARS-CoV-2 infection in individuals who are at high risk for progression to severe COVID-19, as outlined in the Food and Drug Administration Emergency Use Authorizations issued for the anti-SARS-CoV-2 mAbs.

In a previous statement, the Panel suggested prioritization strategies to adopt when logistical constraints can make it difficult to administer anti-SARS-CoV-2 mAb therapy to all eligible patients.

The Panel has updated its previous statement on the prioritization of anti-SARS-CoV-2 mAbs to emphasize the following:
•   To indicate that supply constraints, as well as logistical constraints, can make it impossible to administer anti-SARS-CoV-2 monoclonal mAbs to all eligible patients; and
•   To recommend that, in addition to the prioritization strategies suggested in the previous statement, clinicians consider prioritizing the use of anti-SARS-CoV-2 mAb therapy for patients at highest risk of clinical progression. The updated statement includes a discussion of the risk factors for progression to severe COVID-19.

The Panel suggests prioritizing the use of anti-SARS-CoV-2 mAbs only when triage becomes necessary due to logistical or supply constraints.


Gnarls.

[sirdeuce]

As you have witnessed throughout this whole Covid catastrophy, the "do as I say" mantra has been strongarmed to the masses. If our government didn't come up with it originally they deny it. Let's look at a few of the things they've denied.

Natural immunity (my favorite)
Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine
Vitamin and mineral balance including diet and supplemental attention
Masking (don't get me started)
Anything brought into play outside the U.S. (because the job any other country is to sobotage the U.S.)

I blame our government for 75% of the deaths attributed to Sars CoV-2. The entire response to this viral spread has been poorly handled, starting with the delay of action from the beginning. Hell, it had a 5 month head start! Not sure if that was from incompetance or suppression (I believe it was suppression). From there it just went south.

[86bobbedtoy]

bringing this back to life
what yall think now

[sirdeuce]

Happy with my decision to pass on the jab.  Been exposed and not had any issues. Might end up with a bout of Omicron, everybody will, but not worried on that. Still think it's a bad idea.

[Snowtoy]

Seeing how I don't know anyone who has died from wuhan, even an 84yr old with lung disease from 70yrs of welding and for whom wuhan was supposed to be a death sentence, yet know of someone who died from the vaccine, my 30yr old nephew who suffered a brain hemorrhage, I wont be part of the lab rat community.  I think the vaccines were likely just snake oil from the outset, and any alleged protection was purely anecdotal as you can't test the negative, which would explain why the vaccinated were told to continue to wear masks and not gather in large crowds, and would also explain why 55% of the wuhan deaths have come about since vaccines were available.

[sirdeuce]

I lost two childhood friends to the vaccine, died the same week after the jab. They were twins. My closest friend nearly bought it three weeks ago with a massive clot in his leg, still not out of the woods. My chances, after being infected and surviving it, have a greater chance of negative reactions to the vaccine than getting severely ill or dying from the virus. Vaccine might help some and hurt others, can't take the word of our politicians on the safety of the vaccine.

[Gnarly4X]

The VeeHo's are ahead in the poll. 

Gnarls.

[Mike_amthor]

I haven't gotten the jab, and just got Covid a month ago, and was a symptomatic thankfully. Didn't even know I had it tell my wife lost her taste and we both took at home test. Also my very good friend has been fully vaxxed with the booster and had gotten Covid twice Sense. I don't see a upside of being vaxxed if you can still get it and get very sick even if you have the vaccine. Also has been a very hard push at work to get the vaccine, there making it difficult to stay employed, at least in the Bay Area.

[sirdeuce]

I haven't gotten the jab, and just got Covid a month ago, and was a symptomatic thankfully. Didn't even know I had it tell my wife lost her taste and we both took at home test. Also my very good friend has been fully vaxxed with the booster and had gotten Covid twice Sense. I don't see a upside of being vaxxed if you can still get it and get very sick even if you have the vaccine. Also has been a very hard push at work to get the vaccine, there making it difficult to stay employed, at least in the Bay Area.

The upside to being vaxxed is not being demonized and told to stay home 'cuz you're the one causing the spread or a deadly disease. We all know the ONLY reason this virus is mutating is because of the unvaxxed. If you haven't gotten the jab you're an evil POS that needs to be eliminated!

Get vaccinated and you are an angel!

[sirdeuce]

This pandemic and it's vaccine has been very enlightening as to the state of the human condition. We've seen how twisted and immoral humanity really is. And people will not learn the lessons afforded them by this event. As a group, we deserve what we get from this.

Man is "just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development", has become the most vicious animal of all."
                                              (edited quote) Satanic Bible, Anton Szandor LaVey

I know noone wants to see anything from THAT side of the river, but it is quite fitting.

[sirdeuce]

One more thing. This, uh, vaccine, is not a vaccine, it is a DRUG. AND, as application goes, should NOT be administered to a person INFECTED with CoViD as it could interfere with the immune systems response to the virus.

Two things that are necessary for proper administration of this drug are a negative test and proper injection processes. To insure an intramuscular injection the person injecting the drug needs to aspirate the injection to detect whether a muscle or vascular site has been achieved. Muscular goooood, vascular baaaaad (picture the matalligreed cartoons). Vascular injections tend to GREATLY increase the risks of serious reactions.

[Snowtoy]

I haven't gotten the jab, and just got Covid a month ago, and was a symptomatic thankfully. Didn't even know I had it tell my wife lost her taste and we both took at home test. Also my very good friend has been fully vaxxed with the booster and had gotten Covid twice Sense. I don't see a upside of being vaxxed if you can still get it and get very sick even if you have the vaccine. Also has been a very hard push at work to get the vaccine, there making it difficult to stay employed, at least in the Bay Area.

Yep, another nephew and his wife, both mid 30's, got a good case of wuhan following their Christmas gathering, and both were vaccinated and got the booster due to their work requiring them to get the shots or they would be fired.

[Gnarly4X]

One more thing. This, uh, vaccine, is not a vaccine, it is a DRUG. AND, as application goes, should NOT be administered to a person INFECTED with CoViD as it could interfere with the immune systems response to the virus.

Two things that are necessary for proper administration of this drug are a negative test and proper injection processes. To insure an intramuscular injection the person injecting the drug needs to aspirate the injection to detect whether a muscle or vascular site has been achieved. Muscular goooood, vascular baaaaad (picture the matalligreed cartoons). Vascular injections tend to GREATLY increase the risks of serious reactions.

"OH... C'mon MAN!!!" 

Gnarls.

[sirdeuce]

It's all out there, various studies everywhere. Make sure to slap that forehead HARD.

[86bobbedtoy]

Glad we all agree, Im among my people

[sirdeuce]

Man! If Omicron were a sports team it would be getting a ring or a cup.

                                                            Omicron Omicron

Wonder what's next?

I've developed a bit of a cough and congestion. Maybe I got mine. Maybe this is the end!? Oh no! I'm so scared.

[mudmaster]

Meh