COVID Vaccine

[blackdiamond]

I am just curious how many are planning to get the vaccine. If you have gotten it and are willing to report on any side effects that could be interesting.

[blackdiamond]

I have received my first dose of Moderna. I didn't feel the shot and only had a little mild burning sensation for an hour or so after. My arm was quite sore later in the day to the point that lifting it up parallel with my shoulder was restricted. It started feeling better around the 12 hour mark (I did ice it) and then got progressively better over the next couple of days.  So far no redness or swelling.

[Lewis Hein]

I got my first dose of the Pfizer vaccine a few days ago. My shoulder and arm were pretty sore for a day and then got over it.



Oh, and I also turned into a mutant alien flying octupus. But quite frankly that's been much more fun than being a human

[RUGER]

Not gonna get it.   

RUGER

[emsvitil]

1st shot Moderna.

Sore arm after about 12 hours.

Slightly sore for about 48 hours

After 48 hours it was only sore if I found the spot with my finger,   stayed this way for about another 48 hours.

20 days till dose 2

[Hickory Nut]

My parents took both shots with no side effects that I am aware of but I refuse to take it.

I am in the same boat as Ruger It's not for me.

I think Big Pharma is pulling the wool over the World to get rich with every Shot in the arm and no recourse if something goes wrong (long term). 

I don't wear tinfoil hats either, just don't trust the .gov telling me what we need to be doing to save ourselves. 

[arlindsay1992]

I've had both shots of Pfizer. Felt nothing but the sore arm after the first one. I got the second shot in the morning and the afternoon of the next day I had a pretty bad headache and was tired so I went to bed pretty early. Was back to 100% the day after that.

There's definitely a disease out there doing something. The way I figure it, if I can get a shot to nearly eliminate my chance of getting it, prevent having to take a minimum of 2 weeks off from work and the world, and also greatly reduce my chance of passing it on to someone else who may not be as healthy or able to get through it, then I'll take it. Plus, I like traveling and having the magic card will make it that much easier to go between states without trying to bypass rules.

I don't buy into the various conspiracy theories. I don't know anyone who's ever had Polio, Smallpox, Measles, or Shingles, so I believe vaccines work.

[:(worstgen4runner]

got both shots of moderna. felt nothing after 1st shot, sore arm and fatigued the day after the 2nd shot. fine after that. don't care if it kills me, my good years are already behind me.

[blackdiamond]

I definitely believe that COVID is real, but also think that many of our elected officials are using it to further their political agendas.

My understanding is that it's not really a vaccine and is really only expected to reduce the odds of getting it and also reducing the symptoms if you do get it.  Only time will tell how things really play out. I saw an article today that said out of 78,000,000 fully vaccinated people 4,800 have gotten COVID and 74 have died. The quick math would show that the odd are better than without IF you take the data a face value which isn't necessarily easy or recommended.

I have tried to not let politics influence my decisions related to COVID. I have not followed every rule with COVID but have certainly altered life significantly as it would be almost impossible not too.

Overall, my philosophy has been to respect those around me and assume that they may be more concerned than I am.

[Slabzilla]

Hey BD, vaccines are just that, meant to reduce or eliminate the risks of disease.  The flu vaccine is only reported to be around 60% effective, so if these vaccines work the way they report ( 90-95% ) we should be golden.  I got both my Phiezer shots with just a small bit of an ache just below the site.  The disease is Real and I've lost 3 friends and 2 neighbors to it and they were what I would call healthy individuals.  Just my 2 cents so don't freak out, everyone is entitled to die at their own choice.   

[86bobbedtoy]

No thank you

[86bobbedtoy]

I've lost 3 friends and 2 neighbors to it and they were what I would call healthy individuals.

sorry to hear that and sorry for your losses

[Gnarly4X]

After over 40 years of studying immunology, pharmacology, virology, health and diet, I am not getting any vaccine.

The corruption and incompetence of the FDA. WHO, NIH, CDC, and many other so called medical and research institutions has been extremely well documented. It is all about the money.

Here's a drug being pushed now for depression:  Rexulti

Can cause serious side effects: Increased risk of death or stroke, may increase suicidal thoughts, worsen depression, cause fever, stiff muscles, confusion which can be life threatening, uncontrollable muscle movement which may be permanent, increase cholesterol, weight gain, high blood sugar, decreased white blood cells, unusual urges, dizziness on standing, seizures, trouble swallowing.

Here's the real data on this very dangerous drug:  It's only 29 pages long!!

https://www.otsuka-us.com/sites/g/files/qhldwo3326/files/media/static/Rexulti-PI.pdf

That is just one of thousands of drugs being advertised and prescribed to millions of people.  Every drug will cause on the average 17 side effects.

Not all vaccines and drugs are bad.

Gnarls.

[blackdiamond]

Hey BD, vaccines are just that, meant to reduce or eliminate the risks of disease.  The flu vaccine is only reported to be around 60% effective, so if these vaccines work the way they report ( 90-95% ) we should be golden.  I got both my Phiezer shots with just a small bit of an ache just below the site.  The disease is Real and I've lost 3 friends and 2 neighbors to it and they were what I would call healthy individuals.  Just my 2 cents so don't freak out, everyone is entitled to die at their own choice.   

My point was that the COVID vaccine isn't a magic bullet. I think a comparison to the annual flu shot is reasonable, but many associate it more with something like the polio vaccine and are expecting that once everyone gets the vaccine it'll all just go away.

Sorry to hear about the loss of your friends.

[emsvitil]

It may or may not be like the polio vaccine  (one and done).

But since they'll want that annual income from vaccines.........................

[arlindsay1992]

Big Pharmaceuticals are probably profiting from this whole thing. I agree that the system is screwed up and corrupt. However, if the vaccine is available and better for my health I'm not going to deny it just to prove a point that won't make any difference. Corrupt pharmaceutical companies and this disease are two separate issues. Fixing one won't fix the other.

Side effects exist for every drug out there. I'm sure they are required to report anything that happens during trials, but the real likelihood of it happening to you is pretty darn low. X-Lax can cause constipation, sleep medication can cause insomnia, anti-depressants can cause depression and suicidal thoughts. But those cases are rare, and when people need the medication, they take it.

I wouldn't be surprised if we need to get booster shots yearly or something like that, similar to the annual flu shot. It would be great if it was a one and done deal but only time will tell. It's all new and the data is being created as more people are vaccinated and time goes on.

I'm just ready for the transmission rates to be low enough that life can be back to normal.

[Gnarly4X]

The time line for the flu vaccine is COMPLETELY different than the 3 (9 months) vaccines for the China virus.  The influenza A virus was discovered in 1933, B in 1936!!

Gnarls.

[86bobbedtoy]

I'm just ready for the transmission rates to be low enough that life can be back to normal.

well you will be waiting a very long time, possibly till you die of other cause. 
open your eyes the virus is real but the control will not ever be fully lifted, when has any gov agency released power over the people?

[Snowtoy]

I definitely believe that COVID is real, but also think that many of our elected officials are using it to further their political agendas.

Yes, it is real, but the risk of death, as the Left screams about, is not.  The global death rate, can't use the U.S. due to the reporting of suicides/homicides/accidents etc., being recorded as covid deaths due to the person being infected for political and financial purposes, using just the confirmed deaths divided by confirmed infections, the global death rate is just 2.145%.  When you factor in that 60% of the population that gets infected wont have any symptoms at all, and likely not tested, the global death/infection rate is closer to 0.858%.  Furthermore, since they started studying the virus last spring, the actual infection rate within the community has been shown to be 30-80 times higher than the confirmed infections, just using the lowest found rate of 30 times, the global death/infection rate drops to just 0.07%.  By the way, at the 30 times higher rate, about 50% of the world population has been infected.

My understanding is that it's not really a vaccine and is really only expected to reduce the odds of getting it and also reducing the symptoms if you do get it.  Only time will tell how things really play out. I saw an article today that said out of 78,000,000 fully vaccinated people 4,800 have gotten COVID and 74 have died. The quick math would show that the odd are better than without IF you take the data a face value which isn't necessarily easy or recommended.

Based on these numbers, the death/infection rate for those vaccinated, is 1.5%, in my county, the total death/infection rate is lust 1.6%, just slightly worse than the death rate for those who received the vaccine, and the death rate in the U.S. with the inflated deaths, is just 1.7%  Based on your numbers, it doesn't look like the vaccines reduce the chance of death from covid, now granted, those who got the vaccine may have contracted the virus before the vaccine fully inoculated them against it, or they were just those individuals for whom the vaccine just wont protect, just like the flu vaccine.

I have tried to not let politics influence my decisions related to COVID. I have not followed every rule with COVID but have certainly altered life significantly as it would be almost impossible not too.

Due to the virus hitting in an election year with a Rep in the WH, it was impossible to escape politics being involved, unfortunately due to the climate, politics allowed/forced Doctors and scientists to completely disregard their training, from endorsing the wearing masks in public to not prescribing medicine like hydroxychloroquine, because Trump talked about it.

Overall, my philosophy has been to respect those around me and assume that they may be more concerned than I am.

Kind of the same way, I will wear a mask in a store that asks me too, just as I wear shoes and a shirt, but I wont wear one generally in public, there is no need too, masks, both before and since the virus arrived have been shown to not prevent the spread of an airborne virus in the public, as they only address just 2 of 3 ways a virus can enter a body, and do nothing to address the transmission of a virus via our hands, the way most viruses are passed.

[Snowtoy]

Big Pharmaceuticals are probably profiting from this whole thing. I agree that the system is screwed up and corrupt. However, if the vaccine is available and better for my health I'm not going to deny it just to prove a point that won't make any difference. Corrupt pharmaceutical companies and this disease are two separate issues. Fixing one won't fix the other.

Yes, they are profiting, just as everyone else from hand cleaners to mask makers are profiting, and they should, but their profit isn't from, selling the vaccine, as it would be from an in house paid for R&D, it would/should be from whatever monies are left from the amount of the federal contract they got that was not spent on R&D.

Side effects exist for every drug out there. I'm sure they are required to report anything that happens during trials, but the real likelihood of it happening to you is pretty darn low. X-Lax can cause constipation, sleep medication can cause insomnia, anti-depressants can cause depression and suicidal thoughts. But those cases are rare, and when people need the medication, they take it.

Yes, side effects exist for every drug, as does the risk of dying from an allergic reaction to approved drugs which at one time was an FDA acceptable rate of 3-5%, even for an over the counter drug like aspirin.

I wouldn't be surprised if we need to get booster shots yearly or something like that, similar to the annual flu shot. It would be great if it was a one and done deal but only time will tell. It's all new and the data is being created as more people are vaccinated and time goes on.

The flu vaccine isn't a booster shot, like what you get for tetanus, it is created for whatever strain the "experts" think is going to be the strain that is most prominent for the coming flu season,  based on the strain they see hitting the southern hemisphere during their winter.  Based on what we have been told about wuhan and its relatively slow all but none existent mutation rate, if the vaccines are effective, it should be one and done, might need more than two doses, think the head of pfizer just said a 3rd dose of theirs may be needed, but once fully vaccinated you should not need any more for covid-19.

I'm just ready for the transmission rates to be low enough that life can be back to normal.

Transmission rate isn't an issue, the death rate is, and based on the death rate from the start, we should have been back to normal last late-Spring/early-Summer once they identified those most at risk and developed effective means of treating the most severe symptoms.  It is clear that we way over-reacted to the virus, the mandated mask wearing and lockdowns proved to be ineffective in either preventing the spread or reducing the death rate of the virus, Sweden never did any of it, and their death rate is just 1.5% which is lower than CA's with all their lockdowns still in effect, and on par with FL's who has been open for most of the last year.

[sirdeuce]

Ain't happening! Already had Covid, just a bad case of bronchitis for me. I have a better chance of dying from some moron on the road effing with their phone.

[Gnarly4X]

Ain't happening! Already had Covid, just a bad case of bronchitis for me. I have a better chance of dying from some moron on the road effing with their phone.

LOL... I've been rear-ended 4 times (I'm NOT exaggerating) by a female driver texting on her cell phone!!!

Gnarls.

[emsvitil]

2nd shot yesterday evening (Moderna)

Arm is slightly sore if I raise it.

Had some chills early this morning.

Then slightly feverish around noon.

Then by late afternoon just a sore arm (if I raise it).

[blackdiamond]

I had my second Moderna about ten minutes ago. Didn't feel it or anything so far, am expecting a day at home tomorrow.

[05sport4x4]

I had my second Moderna yesterday morning.  Last night my arm was sore and had some chills.  Some body aches this morning but a couple of Tylenol seems to have eliminated most of that. 

[Gnarly4X]

I'm holding off on getting ANY vaccine.

Gnarls.

[86bobbedtoy]

Im just a plain nice guy that cares more for others. Im gonna wait until everyone else has it then when Im sure everyone else is safe and vaccinated I guess there wont be any need for me to get mine, U kno since Im a nice guy who puts others first

[H8PVMNT]

We are stocking up on ammo and assault weapons to kill all the vaccine induced zombies next year.

[LittleSteve]

Mother in law has had hers.
Father in law cant be bothered.
Wife is waiting as she works in an office
Father and Step mother both had theirs.

I was real sick last Feb... May have had it before it was in fashion.
other than that my group of friends is 1 so meh

[bigarms23]

I got the first dose of moderna i had a different reaction then most on here the first day i felt fine. The second day my arm swelled to where it looked like i had a permint cigerette pack on my shoulder and 5 days later i got a rash that went from the bicep to the middle of my upper arm. I wet to get my second shot and the place i was told to show up at was closed so i am still contemplating if i want the 2nd or not