TSL radials

Started by Gewehr43, April 08, 2005, 06:40:47 PM

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Gewehr43

I need some advice.  I have an '82 4x4.  I want to run a set of 34 X 9.5 R15 Swamper TSL Radials on my stock rims.  Right now I have a set of 30 X 9.5 R15 Dominator A/Ts.  What will these tires do to my mileage? What amount of lift and from what company would I get it?

m44offroad

in theory they should increase your mpg but they will slow acceleration.

scheid6996

u need about a 6inch lift to runn 34 with out hitten the fender
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Gewehr43

Thanks.  Any reccomendation for a lift?  I might go smaller on the tires and buy Marlin's 4" Springs

mr4x42u

I'm sure you can get away with a 4in lift and some fender trimage.. :flamer:
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WHITE_TRASH

You have a first gen. you can run 35's with just rears up front and tubbing of the firewall.  Its actually simple to do.
Full hydro, 186:1 with an auto and 44's what could go wrong??

m44offroad

Quote from: Gewehr43 on April 08, 2005, 11:08:40 PM
Thanks. Any reccomendation for a lift? I might go smaller on the tires and buy Marlin's 4" Springs
untill you get a more powerful motor then that pathetic 22r i wouldnt go much larger than 31-10.50s the sad thing is that a 350 swap in to your truck would give you the same gas mileage

Skinny_Pedal

do what whity said. with 34's, 3" lift is plenty for a 1st gen. 4" lift cleared 36" tsl's like butter on my buddies 81
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tanman2003

to hold ,e off till crossover and marlin springs i got 4"procomp springs for the front for $50 a piece from 4wheel parts.

then i did a chevy spring conversion, and i can run 33"s with no rubbing. i want to go 36" irocks later but this will hold me off. they are kind of stiff, but they compress ok while flexing. but they were cheap and they fit, all i needed were bushings and a drop drag link.

im not saying this is the ultimate set up, but it was cheap and it works.

i have no problem with running 33"s with stock gears, but i have a 22re with maybe 16 more hp

IronClad

you can run them with no lift.  buddy o mine runs 33x12.5 bfg mt's  and only rubs when flex and turned  fairly sharp.. with a skinny tire it should be just fine.   btw  he has a 83  so  basicly the same
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mr4x42u

the 34's will run the springs,,with 34's you need a 7 in wheel to run them reliably with out bead locks..I see them blow all the time with a 8 in wheel at 10 psi..with the 7 in wheel your off set sucks and will rub your springs..spacers will be needed to clear the leaf springs while turning in the front..
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m44offroad

Quote from: mr4x42u on April 10, 2005, 04:14:01 PM
the 34's will run the springs,,with 34's you need a 7 in wheel to run them reliably with out bead locks..I see them blow all the time with a 8 in wheel at 10 psi..with the 7 in wheel your off set sucks and will rub your springs..spacers will be needed to clear the leaf springs while turning in the front..
spacers on a daily driver is just a bad idea. i have seen a few spacers fall apart with normal on road driving

Hyena

Spacers are safe if you locktite them and check them every couple of weeks.  mine have not came loose since i put them on over 7 months ago.

kyle_22r

Quote from: m44offroad on April 09, 2005, 11:42:00 AM
untill you get a more powerful motor then that pathetic 22r i wouldnt go much larger than 31-10.50s the sad thing is that a 350 swap in to your truck would give you the same gas mileage
huh?  i get 24mpg on the freeway with my 22R with my heavy swampers, and don't have to worry about smashing stuff with a 350.  not to mention that 350s suck and are overdone.

scheid6996

they dont suck, can u say POWER?
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WHITE_TRASH

Can you say too much power breaks everything, gets total crap mileage (unless efi) and too heavy?  Its a been there done that situation.  Its a stupid swap for offroad usage.
Full hydro, 186:1 with an auto and 44's what could go wrong??

scheid6996

no its not, its not a good swap for crawling i agree, but awsome for mud and sand
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WHITE_TRASH

Yes it is a decent swap for mud and sand.  But it has a nasty tendancy to break ring & pinions at will.  You can take that to the bank.  I have 10 destroyed 3rd's from my truck.
Full hydro, 186:1 with an auto and 44's what could go wrong??

scheid6996

toy 3rds? i havent broken any yet, im open diffs front and rear, but im on my 2nd tranny, haha
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WHITE_TRASH

Go figure, great swap isnt it. :shake:
Full hydro, 186:1 with an auto and 44's what could go wrong??

scheid6996

well i knew wut was gona happen, and when i broke :pokinit: i planed on putten in a sm465 or top loader ford, but i got the W56 for $300 and it only has 10,000 mi on it so i couldnt pass it up
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mr4x42u

Quote from: m44offroad on April 10, 2005, 07:33:40 PM
spacers on a daily driver is just a bad idea. i have seen a few spacers fall apart with normal on road driving

the biggest problem with spacers is they are alum,,and just like a new set of alum wheels they need to be checked after they have been put on,,or yes,,they come loose..the alum needs to be,,lets say formed,,,after that there good to go,,and and a little lock tight never hurt..i know plenty of people running them fron and rear on daily drivers with no problems.getthe marlin spacers and you can't go wrong..
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Skinny_Pedal

my wheel spacers are only 3/4". just wanted to make my tires not rub the springs. i have longer wheel studs installed, so no worries of re-torqueing
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m44offroad

Quote from: kyle_22r on April 10, 2005, 08:39:52 PM
huh? i get 24mpg on the freeway with my 22R with my heavy swampers, and don't have to worry about smashing stuff with a 350. not to mention that 350s suck and are overdone.
gewehr43 is talking about getting something like 15 mpg out of the 22r he has. most carburated 350s i have dealt with get that and if you step up to fuel injected you can get 20 out of it.

Gewehr43

Anyone running aset of TSL s?  How to they compare to others?

Mike D

Quote from: m44offroad on April 09, 2005, 11:42:00 AM
untill you get a more powerful motor then that pathetic 22r i wouldnt go much larger than 31-10.50s the sad thing is that a 350 swap in to your truck would give you the same gas mileage

PATHETIC!!! :tantrum: I'm gonna pregnant dog slap you

You have no clue what you are talking about I got 33" TSL/SX's and before I had 5.29's my PATHETIC 22re got me up to speed perfectly and now Its a rocket with 5.29's but I got a top speed of 60ish
87 runner, 4" trailmaster lift, 33" TSL/SX, 5.29's V6 e-locker, 22re that cost too much

mr4x42u

Quote from: Gewehr43 on April 11, 2005, 10:33:03 PM
Anyone running aset of TSL s?  How to they compare to others?

if your talking 34-9.50-15s the draw back is lots of side wall and blown beads was an issue for my buddy..He ended up getting bead locks and had  no more worries..
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Gewehr43

would a set of 15X8's solve the problem or should i get beadlocks?

mr4x42u

Quote from: Gewehr43 on April 12, 2005, 09:06:42 AM
would a set of 15X8's solve the problem or should i get beadlocks?


the 34-9.50s say to use no wider then a 7in wide wheel.It says that on the side wall...but bead locks really make those tires shine..My buddy got 15x8 beadlocks for 109$, a wheel..
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WHITE_TRASH

I just re-read your origional post gewehr43, if you are going to put these tires on your stock rims you'll be just fine.  Go for it I think the stock rims are about 6" wide so you shouldnt have any issues.
Full hydro, 186:1 with an auto and 44's what could go wrong??