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SqWADoosh · « **Reply #30 on:** Nov 24, 2016, 02:27:22 PM »

Quote from: Congill77 on Nov 24, 2016, 01:59:01 PM

I'm a little late to the party but on the topic of triple sticks, the floor board modification is why I really don't want to go with raddesigns triple stick. Davez is designed so the linkage connects at the bottom of the stick below the pivot point. Though it doesn't change the shifter position for the 2 and 4 engagement

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Good luck getting those.

Congill77 · « **Reply #31 on:** Nov 24, 2016, 02:29:15 PM »

Quote from: SqWADoosh on Nov 24, 2016, 02:27:22 PM

Good luck getting those.

Hahah ya I know. I've come to the conclusion that I'm going to make my own.

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OTO Phil · « **Reply #32 on:** Nov 24, 2016, 02:33:37 PM »

I plan on buying radesign's shift plate, then I'll make my own handles and links...

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OVRAROK · « **Reply #33 on:** Nov 24, 2016, 02:34:20 PM »

I like the design of davez, I believe he's currently out of stock though. I was scrolling down, and noticed pic of cut floorboards. Would not be my preference. If I went with the latter, I would make a sheet metal box to cover linkage

Congill77 · « **Reply #34 on:** Nov 24, 2016, 02:39:04 PM »

I can't justify buying something that allows me to not cut my interior but still have to cut the floor.

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OVRAROK · « **Reply #35 on:** Nov 24, 2016, 02:42:22 PM »

Quote from: Congill77 on Nov 24, 2016, 02:39:04 PM

I can't justify buying something that allows me to not cut my interior but still have to cut the floor.

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Huh, can you clarify

Congill77 · « **Reply #36 on:** Nov 24, 2016, 02:50:38 PM »

These are both sqwadoosh' some truck

the interior is still intact, but it covers the cut floor.
Here is the rad designs shifter block, notice how the tab goes up into the body and thus you get how sqwadoosh had to cut his floor

As compared to davez (yes I know he's been out of stock for a long time) where the tab goes down and faces away from the body and has the linkage running below the body

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OTO Phil · « **Reply #37 on:** Nov 24, 2016, 02:50:57 PM »

No problem here haha

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OVRAROK · « **Reply #38 on:** Nov 24, 2016, 02:57:27 PM »

To bad they font make an optional way of connecting to block, maybe keyed with 180° placement points

OTO Phil · « **Reply #39 on:** Nov 24, 2016, 02:59:11 PM »

Quote from: ovrarok on Nov 24, 2016, 02:57:27 PM

To bad they font make an optional way of connecting to block, maybe keyed with 180° placement points

Why don't you just weld a tab to the other side?

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Congill77 · « **Reply #40 on:** Nov 24, 2016, 03:00:37 PM »

$150 for something I still have to fab some stuff on? I can't justify the price then

I'm picky Im know.

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OTO Phil · « **Reply #41 on:** Nov 24, 2016, 03:01:41 PM »

Quote from: Congill77 on Nov 24, 2016, 03:00:37 PM

$150 for something I still have to fab some stuff on? I can't justify the price then I'm picky Im know.

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I think he makes them to order.. call him up, seems an email, he might make it custom

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Congill77 · « **Reply #42 on:** Nov 24, 2016, 03:04:07 PM »

Eh I already have my home made one in the works. I think I'm 30 in to it for the entire rear plate and the linkage. Haven't bothered with the front plate yet but it's not exactly make.

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OVRAROK · « **Reply #43 on:** Nov 24, 2016, 03:07:13 PM »

Quote from: Congill77 on Nov 24, 2016, 03:04:07 PM

Eh I already have my home made one in the works. I think I'm 30 in to it for the entire rear plate and the linkage. Haven't bothered with the front plate yet but it's not exactly make.

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I like fabbing my own parts too

OTO Phil · « **Reply #44 on:** Nov 24, 2016, 03:10:02 PM »

Quote from: Congill77 on Nov 24, 2016, 03:00:37 PM

$150 for something I still have to fab some stuff on? I can't justify the price then I'm picky Im know.

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Holy crap that's really $150?!

Yeah, I think I can buy some lengths of round tubing, solid bar stock, square tubing and a 3/16ths plate for about $40. Add $25 for the links and all thread...

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Congill77 · « **Reply #45 on:** Nov 24, 2016, 03:10:20 PM »

Ya. I'll make sure I do a full write up on making my own after I get it done

don't really want to do one before its done that way people aren't waiting on the info. I know I've rear through threads on that and I absolutely hate it when it on something small like that. A build thread I can enjoy ya....

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Congill77 · « **Reply #46 on:** Nov 24, 2016, 03:12:53 PM »

Quote from: ExCabSwap on Nov 24, 2016, 03:10:02 PM

Holy crap that's really $150?!

Yeah, I think I can buy some lengths of round tubing, solid bar stock, square tubing and a 3/16ths plate for about $40. Add $25 for the links and all thread...

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Hahahaha sorry to change your mind on just getting the rear plate but ya

I'd rather make my own parts.

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OTO Phil · « **Reply #47 on:** Nov 24, 2016, 03:22:14 PM »

Quote from: Congill77 on Nov 24, 2016, 03:10:20 PM

Ya. I'll make sure I do a full write up on making my own after I get it done don't really want to do one before its done that way people aren't waiting on the info. I know I've rear through threads on that and I absolutely hate it when it on something small like that. A build thread I can enjoy ya....

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The boss man has a home made one I'll try to get some pictures next time I'm over there 👍

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Congill77 · « **Reply #48 on:** Nov 24, 2016, 04:18:22 PM »

Nice! I'm don't really care as long as it works

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79coyotefrg · « **Reply #49 on:** Nov 24, 2016, 05:08:05 PM »

Quote from: Congill77 on Nov 24, 2016, 02:50:38 PM

As compared to davez (yes I know he's been out of stock for a long time) where the tab goes down and faces away from the body and has the linkage running below the body

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What I see is a lot of nuts and arm ends that WILL wear out, if you use them anyway. My stock shifters will never fail to work.

As far as the use of the crawl box, I use mine backing out of the driveway, parking at the store and when I hook to my trailer for a load of whatever. and never engage the front drive shaft giving me 3 or 4 extra gears to get my load moving.

Congill77 · « **Reply #50 on:** Nov 24, 2016, 05:18:17 PM »

Quote from: 79coyotefrg on Nov 24, 2016, 05:08:05 PM

What I see is a lot of nuts and arm ends that WILL wear out, if you use them anyway. My stock shifters will never fail to work.

As far as the use of the crawl box, I use mine backing out of the driveway, parking at the store and when I hook to my trailer for a load of whatever. and never engage the front drive shaft giving me 3 or 4 extra gears to get my load moving.

I agree it does add more complexity and wearable components to shifting the tcase a as compared to just wishing a stock j shift but for me it's not an option to cut any part of my floor or interior out.. Where the rear shifter would go currently has the switches for my rear window (87 4Runner) as well as the relays for my elocker (which I really don't want to rewire) so triple sticks is the way to go for me. There is a part of me that wishes I had a pickup that I could just cut into but alas, not what I have.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #51 on:** Nov 25, 2016, 01:42:25 AM »

Quote from: Congill77 on Nov 24, 2016, 05:18:17 PM

I agree it does add more complexity and wearable components to shifting the tcase a as compared to just wishing a stock j shift but for me it's not an option to cut any part of my floor or interior out.. Where the rear shifter would go currently has the switches for my rear window (87 4Runner) as well as the relays for my elocker (which I really don't want to rewire) so triple sticks is the way to go for me. There is a part of me that wishes I had a pickup that I could just cut into but alas, not what I have.

that makes sense then. Glad I have bucket seats.

Beastcrawler85 · « **Reply #52 on:** Jan 21, 2017, 12:22:39 PM »

Nice read

seebrookmeyer · « **Reply #53 on:** Jan 30, 2017, 12:38:20 PM »

solid thread for entering the dual case world. was helpful to read through and get the basic theory behind it all.

in terms of triple sticks, in what scenarios have you found them most helpful? Personally I feel like I have more than enough choices in gearing that I'm unclear on how I would be able to utilize the third stick

OTO Phil · « **Reply #54 on:** Jan 30, 2017, 01:59:10 PM »

Quote from: seebrookmeyer on Jan 30, 2017, 12:38:20 PM

solid thread for entering the dual case world. was helpful to read through and get the basic theory behind it all.

in terms of triple sticks, in what scenarios have you found them most helpful? Personally I feel like I have more than enough choices in gearing that I'm unclear on how I would be able to utilize the third stick

Triple sticks doesn't exactly give you more gearing options, other than splitting up the high low and four-wheel drive two wheel drive single Jay configuration. It's more for convenience so that you have your shifters further forward

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seebrookmeyer · « **Reply #55 on:** Jan 30, 2017, 04:07:52 PM »

Quote from: ExCabSwap on Jan 30, 2017, 01:59:10 PM

Triple sticks doesn't exactly give you more gearing options, other than splitting up the high low and four-wheel drive two wheel drive single Jay configuration. It's more for convenience so that you have your shifters further forward

So along the lines of having shifters further forward, have others ran into the issue of knocking your front case out of low when putting the tranny into fourth gear. My front case stick sits exactly where 4th gear is. Can the short throw shifter help eliminate this?

Congill77 · « **Reply #56 on:** Jan 30, 2017, 04:08:03 PM »

So the triple stick is really a relocated twin stick. The twin stick splits the (for lack of a better term) linkage so you can have independent control of high/low and of 2wd/4wd. From what I have read, and people I have talked to, it is the most helpful when you have a spool or any solid lock in the front axle. You can disengage 4wd (with the hubs still locked) but still be in low range.

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Congill77 · « **Reply #57 on:** Jan 30, 2017, 04:10:33 PM »

Quote from: seebrookmeyer on Jan 30, 2017, 04:07:52 PM

So along the lines of having shifters further forward, have others ran into the issue of knocking your front case out of low when putting the tranny into fourth gear. My front case stick sits exactly where 4th gear is. Can the short throw shifter help eliminate this?

How do you have your front cases stick mounted? It's a dog leg shifter (on mine at least) so if you remove the shifter and re install it 180* that should move where the shifter sits.

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seebrookmeyer · « **Reply #58 on:** Jan 30, 2017, 04:31:26 PM »

Quote from: Congill77 on Jan 30, 2017, 04:10:33 PM

How do you have your front cases stick mounted? It's a dog leg shifter (on mine at least) so if you remove the shifter and re install it 180* that should move where the shifter sits.

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That makes a lot of sense, without a selectable front locker, I could see the benefit of being able to select hi/low and 2/4 independently.

That sounds like something to look into tonight. Can't say I have ever looked at the shape of the stick itself, but that would be a simple solution for using fourth gear again.

Thanks!

OTO Phil · « **Reply #59 on:** Jan 30, 2017, 06:30:19 PM »

Lol into a shitty throw kit from Marlin.. so glad I bought mine

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Look into a short throw kit*

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