Topic: ODD 2nd Gear

[bamajojo9]

I was wondering if anybidy has ever had a problem where it has been difficult o get into second gear, its like pushing a pillow or something with the stick or its clogged up only when u got to 2nd. Anybody had a problem lime this? I had just been in mud when it started.?

[yotaneck13]

w56 tranny? if so i have had this problem alot like driving down the road it will grind before it goes in

[bamajojo9 [OP]]

Idk, whatever comes in a 87 pickup.... and I discovered when u put on my new slave cylinder yesterday that there is a boot beside it on the transmission,but the boot is not connected it is just kinda hanging there with an exposed hole... do u think I could literally have mud or gunk inside of my transmission??

[yotaneck13]

that is possible if you had been in mus that boot is a dust cover to do just that keep out it should go in the square hole it the side of the bellhousing ant the linkage comes out through it is the pickup a 3.0 or a 22re motor? this will tell me what trans you have

[bamajojo9 [OP]]

A 22r.

[yotaneck13]

so a w56 more than likely same one that is in my 90 but i have the plug in the side and mine grinds goin in sometimes i wouldnt worry about it ..it could be the syncronizer going out next time it does it let off the clutch and push it back it then put it in 2nd and see if its easier to go in

[bamajojo9 [OP]]

It's like there is somethin makin it not as easy to go in or out actually a lot harder, it doesn't feel like metal, it ain't grinding or anything.. do u think I'd if I dropped the pan whatever it is would come out if its anything?

[yotaneck13]

Drop the pan? what pan is it an auto? if its a 5 speed there will be no pan

[bamajojo9 [OP]]

Dang. Your rite.. is there any way to get it out? And it also smokes from the boot.. idk if its exhaust.. do u think it could just be dry up in there.?

[yotaneck13]

that boot in the bellhousing? if its smoking from there thats your clutch... if your tranny is out of fluid your screwed theres plugs on the side of it and on the t case pull them and see if there is fluid in there

[bamajojo9 [OP]]

No its smoking from my shifterboot idk about the other one??

[yotaneck13]

smoking from your shifter boot? if it doesnt smell like exhaust you either smoked your clutch or tranny time to r and r

[79coyotefrg]

sounds like the clutch is GONE, and possibly a bent fork in the transmission.

[yotaneck13]

if the clutch was gone i would think everygear would be hard to shift and the pedal fel wouldnt be right and it would run out of gear real fast the input seal may be leaking fluid on the clutch hence the smoke and the clutch will be gone in a matter of time

[bamajojo9 [OP]]

Well see I just ordered a clutch ans my slave cylinder has been leaking a long time so I put a new one on and gained a lot of my clutch back.. do yall think it is burned out? And if I did bend a fork how would I go about repairing that? How could I figure this out

[Phazertwo]

2nd gear is one of the most common gears to loose the syncros on.  Also, does it do it all the time, or just when the truck is cold? If it goes away when the truck warms up (like my r150f) than just replace your gear lube with some synthetic.  From the sounds of it you should replace the fluid anyway, just to make sure there is enough in there.  Also, I destroyed a clutch by not having that rubber boot that overs the shifter for hole when mud got down int here and locked up the through out bearing. So I would replace that ASAP.

If you have smoke coming through the shifter boot it could be a number of things, but you should be able to identify it by the smell. If it is exhaust it will smell like exhaust, if it is clutch it will smell similar to hot brakes.

When a clutch wears out it should make it easier to shift since there is not enough friction between the clutch disk, the pressure plate and the fly wheel to transfer the power from the engine. When your clutch really starts to go away, you can push on the gas pedal and the RPMs go up, and you don't go any faster.