Topic: 22re swap VSS question

[ccannon222]

I am swaping a 93 22RE into my 85 22r PU.  I am using the ORS wire harness kit.  There is a lead on the wire harness that needs to be connected to the VSS.  On the 93 truck, the T-case has wires, not a cable.  If I swap this in, then I will not have a speedo.  Is there any way to hook this up and keep my speedo cable?

Thanks

ccannon

[Doosty]

who needs a speedo?

[Riddett]

I have a mechanical speedo if you need one. They are pretty cheap at the Dealer also.

[ccannon222 [OP]]

Riddet,
Thanks for the offer.  However, I already have the mechanical speedo cable and dash cluster.  I just need to figure out how to get a VSS signal to the computer.  The truck I am using the motor out of does not have a mechanical speedo.
I hope this makes sense.

Thanks

ccannon

[yotadork83]

i would get an earlyer wiring harness because i in 93 is the year that they changed to a chain driven t-cases with the electric spedo. if you get an earlyer one with a gear driven t-case it should work just fine. or if you are smart enough to enginer an adaptor i would get the rear cover off of the chain driven case and figure out how to adapt that system to a gear driven case

[bluetoy84]

i would get an earlyer wiring harness because i in 93 is the year that they changed to a chain driven t-cases with the electric spedo. if you get an earlyer one with a gear driven t-case it should work just fine. or if you are smart enough to enginer an adaptor i would get the rear cover off of the chain driven case and figure out how to adapt that system to a gear driven case

Who told you this? ALL 4cyl 5spds have the gear driven case. The only difference in the cable and electronic speedo is the sensor that goes in the t-case. Not the t-case itself. Toyota went to the electronic speedo in '91 or '92.

Leave the VSS wire unhooked and keep your cable speedo and everything will work fine. It will run fine without the VSS.

[yotadork83]

Who told you this? ALL 4cyl 5spds have the gear driven case. The only difference in the cable and electronic speedo is the sensor that goes in the t-case. Not the t-case itself. Toyota went to the electronic speedo in '91 or '92.

Leave the VSS wire unhooked and keep your cable speedo and everything will work fine. It will run fine without the VSS.

nobody told me this just every 4cly five speed 93 and newer that i have ever worked on has a chain driven case.

[yotadork83]

http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/faq/parts/
 here is a link that shows them and i was partially wrong they came out with them early than 93 behind 22re. so there.

[bluetoy84]

nobody told me this just every 4cly five speed 93 and newer that i have ever worked on has a chain driven case.

I have never seen a 4cyl 5spd with a chain drive case. I know all V6s and 4cyl autos had the chain drive case. Maybe a chain drive came behind a G58 trans? I have never seen a G58 trans, not even sure what years they came in. I do know L43s, L45s,L50s, L52s, G52s, G54s, and the various W56s all have gear drive t-cases, and the electronic and cable speedo gears will interchange throughout.

Anyways, none of this pertains to the original topic. All CCannon needs to do is leave his cable speedo like it is and not worry about hooking up the VSS wire, and life will be good. Thanks.

[ccannon222 [OP]]

85-88PU/89 4R 4 cyl EFI came with topshift W56 trans and gear driven t-cases.  89-95PU and 90-95 4R 4 cyl manual hubs came with a forward shift W56 and gear driven t-case.  ADD trucks from those years game with a G58 and chain driven t-case.  The G58 looks almost identical to a G52/G54 trans. 
The donor truck I has a forward shift W56 and gear driven t-case with a VSS on the t-case with electric speedo.  FROR says I can leave the VSS disconnected and I will be fine.  That’s what I will probably do since I am running a manual trans behind it. 
I was just wondering if anyone knew of a way to hook it up.  My dash cluster with the mechanical speedo does have a speed sensor wire going from it to the ECU.  I was wondering if the signal from this sensor would match the signal from the t-case VSS on the 93 truck.  If so, I could run a wire from it to the ECU.  ECU would not know the difference.  However, what I am worried about is the signals being different and fooling the ECU into thinking I’m going a different speed than I am.

I hope this makes sense.

ccannon