Author Topic: Making a tactical shotgun (Read 4493 times)

alwayzbroken · « **on:** Mar 17, 2008, 09:43:24 AM »

I just bought a Winchester 1300 12 gauge and I think it needs to be sported up a bit. I am not very familiar with shotguns or the shotgun aftermarket though. I know most people who have tactical shotguns usually start with a police or defender type with shorter barrel, but I would like to do it anyway. I have a 28" vented sight barrel and a shorter "deer slug" barrel that I assume will be worthless unless I am shooting slugs, which will practically never happen. I want to use this gun recreationally and not just devote it to "home defense."

Can anybody recommend some brands or products for the Winchester 1300? I am looking for a new stock, extended magazine, shell holder, foregrip, and flashlight.
Thanks

KYOTA · « **Reply #1 on:** Mar 17, 2008, 09:51:08 AM »

just make sure you keep it at 18"

other than that check out http://huntinggearauctions.com/ for parts

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #2 on:** Mar 17, 2008, 05:13:23 PM »

Quote from: alwayzbroken on Mar 17, 2008, 09:43:24 AM

I just bought a Winchester 1300 12 gauge and I think it needs to be sported up a bit. I am not very familiar with shotguns or the shotgun aftermarket though. I know most people who have tactical shotguns usually start with a police or defender type with shorter barrel, but I would like to do it anyway. I have a 28" vented sight barrel and a shorter "deer slug" barrel that I assume will be worthless unless I am shooting slugs, which will practically never happen. I want to use this gun recreationally and not just devote it to "home defense."

Can anybody recommend some brands or products for the Winchester 1300? I am looking for a new stock, extended magazine, shell holder, foregrip, and flashlight.
Thanks

use the deer slug barrel (aka shorter and open choke, aka same as the 28 inch barrel if you use Kyota's tool )for home defense, use the 28inch barrel for hunting

alwayzbroken · « **Reply #3 on:** Mar 17, 2008, 06:17:07 PM »

Quote from: 79coyotefrg on Mar 17, 2008, 05:13:23 PM

use the deer slug barrel (aka shorter and open choke, aka same as the 28 inch barrel if you use Kyota's tool )for home defense, use the 28inch barrel for hunting

Can you explain a little bit about chokes? Can I cut down the deer slug barrel and shoot shot loads fairly easily since it has an open choke?

Trunkz · « **Reply #4 on:** Mar 18, 2008, 06:22:49 PM »

the slug barrel will be easier to cut down without loss of performance,
a choke restricts the load before it exits the barrel there is full, modified and another, this helps the shotgun pattern better, please dont shoot slugs out of a full choke barrel lol
without a choke on a 18" barrel (what i have) the pattern is extremely wide and at about 20 yards you may get some number seven shot on a man sized target but its almost unlikely i would keep the choked barrel and modify a non choked barrel

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #5 on:** Mar 18, 2008, 10:56:12 PM »

My shotgun stands 60 inches tall, I run sabots through it, it is acurate as hell and the sound a sabot slug makes travelling through the air is unforgetable, that is until it hits you.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #6 on:** Mar 19, 2008, 12:30:28 PM »

Quote from: alwayzbroken on Mar 17, 2008, 06:17:07 PM

Can you explain a little bit about chokes? Can I cut down the deer slug barrel and shoot shot loads fairly easily since it has an open choke?

you can shoot shot thru the deer slug barrel, what happens is the "open choke" of the deer slug brrl lets the shot spread quick, so say your in a room and 3 guys are standing against a wall 20 feet away the slug barrel will cover all 3 with shot

the full choke sport (28 inch) barrel would hit whoever you are aiming at

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #7 on:** Mar 19, 2008, 12:34:27 PM »

i have a 12 guage Marlin "Goose gun" with a 3 1/2 inch chamber for Magnum shells and a 36 inch barrel with full choke, if i can see the squirrel 200 yards away i can blow it to peices

at 100 yards i can blow a 6 inch hole thru a 2 inch thick slab of wood

oddball · « **Reply #8 on:** Mar 19, 2008, 09:02:50 PM »

I have the Defender 1300 its the 18" version, when I was in the Army we used to buy stuff from Black Hawk Industries I think it was called, all tactical crap

alwayzbroken · « **Reply #9 on:** Mar 19, 2008, 09:05:10 PM »

Quote from: oddball on Mar 19, 2008, 09:02:50 PM

I have the Defender 1300 its the 18" version, when I was in the Army we used to buy stuff from Black Hawk Industries I think it was called, all tactical crap

That is a nice one. How does it shoot with the short barrel? I would imagine it would have very limited range and a lot of kick.

oddball · « **Reply #10 on:** Mar 19, 2008, 09:07:13 PM »

Oh and shooting slugs is just bad ass in my opion but its going to kill your shoulder, even 3" turkey loads out of mine is real rough after about 5 or 6 shots

oddball · « **Reply #11 on:** Mar 19, 2008, 09:09:11 PM »

It shoots fine it does kick hard, range is maybe 10-15 yards at best

Plekto · « **Reply #12 on:** Mar 20, 2008, 02:01:21 PM »

Another option is to go with a slighter load. You sacrifice a little shot weight, but for home defense, you don't want slugs or even buckshot, as it will go through your walls and end up in your neighbor's house. Good, heavy BB shot or bird shot works fine, and a load can have a lot less recoil.

When you get a shorter stock and a shorter barrel, felt recoil is going to more than double.

Oh, also get one of those fiber optic sights for the barrel. Worth every penny(actually pretty inexpensive)

Trunkz · « **Reply #13 on:** Mar 21, 2008, 03:27:57 AM »

depending on how large or small your house is you could get some breaching rounds for hd you know the powdered lead ones that they use on locks and hinges

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #14 on:** Mar 21, 2008, 06:52:48 PM »

i say make your own home defense rounds with rock salt

Trunkz · « **Reply #15 on:** Mar 21, 2008, 07:48:29 PM »

check legality of rocksalt.... easy way to get sued

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #16 on:** Mar 22, 2008, 10:15:42 AM »

You never want to use anything less than lethal, leaves one less person to sue you. This is a sad but true statement.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #17 on:** Mar 22, 2008, 07:31:58 PM »

Quote from: oddball on Mar 19, 2008, 09:07:13 PM

Oh and shooting slugs is just bad ass in my opion but its going to kill your shoulder, even 3" turkey loads out of mine is real rough after about 5 or 6 shots

try some 3 inch Nitro mags

even in my Heavy

"Goose Gun" those Nitro mags will kick your butt, then stomp you a couple times while your down
but you can blow the wall of a house out with them

Huhwhye · « **Reply #18 on:** Mar 23, 2008, 02:29:28 PM »

Get a Knoxx Spec Ops stock, they make a big difference in recoil.

link to Cabela's

I am not sure about the legality of cutting a barrel. Something tells me it not legal in all states. And replacement barrels are expensive. Because of that I bought 2 different Remington 870's. One for hunting w/ a 28" barrel and one for home defense/camping with an 18".

alwayzbroken · « **Reply #19 on:** Mar 24, 2008, 08:18:09 AM »

I went and shot it yesterday and decided I am just gonna leave it alone. I am very pleased with the way it shoots. I will probably just buy a new or used Remington or Mossberg to sport up. The Remington Desert Recon TAC is calling my name.

We went shooting the other day. It was a blast

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