WT posted while I was writing, and I would listen to what he says, I hafta respect his opinion, he's done a lot with these things. On the other hand I was just talkin to a guy that owns a local yard the other day and he was tellin me that0 the old toy flatbed they have with the v6 was purchased by him new in 88 or 89 and has almost 300,000 miles with no real problems. He said it is a little surprising, and I know they aren't easy on that truck. With every vehicle made by every manufacturer there are always exceptions to the rule, some toyota engines have all kinds of problems, and some fords don't have any problems. I don't think toyota would have expected my 22r to have lived through the abuse and neglect that I've subjected it to, let alone last to nearly 350,000 miles(it's still tickin too), and would gladly let the toyota techs have it back to do some testing. I really wanna buy a new toyota truck and do proper maintenance and see how long it will last, but don't particularly like the tacomas, nor can I afford one either.