you'll pri never find any chris the dude I bought it from got them off of a waggoneer but there not the 44044 or whatever there only on 2 years of the waggys but im not sure what year there wider than the 44044's and a little thicker to. loved them when i ran um but i bent um pretty good at moon rocks and had to swap springs they measured out at 57 and 3/4 i believe