Wow guys there's a lot of venom here and for what, you might not need a vehicle that seats 8-9 people?? A lot of people do and the Sub is the only choice on the market, the Sprinter is not even a viable option it's frickin huge and no 4x4
. My wife's 97 2500 4x4 454 4.10 gear with 285/75/16 SSR's gets almost 14mpg at 70 mph not to bad considering what it is and it will tow well over 10k lbs. The other thing is I need a vehicle this big for my 3 kids to ride in safely. 2 of them are in car seats and the oldest is too young to sit up front. I know what your thinking just put all 3 on one rear bench but you can't do it safely, if I were to get in an accident the 2 car seats could move around enough to hurt my oldest kid. I don't know about you but I will gladly work a little extra overtime to pay for the extra gas for my family to be safe. Lets lighten up a bit, loose the retard this and that, and
