If all else fails, get off your lazy
and turn the damn things by hand. I think you might remember how to do that, right? But most importantly these things are a luxury for your convenience.
I appreciate all the input great stuff.....part of the reason why I am looking at these things is that I have bad arms. I put part of a motorcycle through one of my hands. Then, I had both of my arms reconstructed due to a nerve disorder. Was told at one point I probably wouldnt be able to use my arms anymore
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I'm getting better but it is really hard for me to turn a wrench sometimes (and even harder to admit
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it publicly lol) I hate asking for help from my friends though they usually dont mind. Vibration is another issue for me because of sensation problems. not trying to whine here i hate whiners......... thanks again keep info coming!