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Re: Thinking about getting bigger cam??
« Reply #300 on: May 30, 2017, 04:09:57 AM »
Well I'm not at all disappointed I bought it.  Way better than the Haynes manual I've been working from.  The detailed diagrams of the emissions and electrical systems are worth it just by themselves.  I now know how the HAC works!

When I was blathering about cams earlier I mentioned that I thought the specs would be in the FSM and was surprised they were so hard to find.  If you said they weren't then I missed that.  Not really blaming you man, just flinging poo to stir things up.  I've seen factory cam specs on the web but where did they come from?  How do we know they're accurate?  The fact that one source I saw showed the carb and EFI cams having basically the opposite specs of each other for the intake and exhaust lobes has me wondering.  That's why I was hoping the FSM would have that stuff in it as Toyota would be the ultimate authority on this stuff.  The GM service manuals from the late 60s and early '70s that I have contain much more information about the various cams including duration, lobe positions, and lift so I was kind of thinking Toyota would do the same thing.

Oh well, hope you're having a good weekend!

" just flinging poo to stir things up." .... can you imagine how boring it would be without "poo-flinging" on a cult-like, passionate Toyota owner's 4-wheeling site!

Yeah... I appreciate the good wishes for good Holiday weekend.  Back to you.

I caught a bug and been hacking for 3 days, and I had to work yesterday and I was miserable!

This is just my experience...

Engine specs... well I have found that cam specs in general are available and published, but not always accurate, they can change for the same advertised part number, and often incomplete - and of course the power gain claims backed up with dyno test data are as rare as hens teeth.

Manifold and head porting "specs" are even more of a mystery.  I have not found Flow Bench testing data readily available by the ANY factory auto manufacturer, and only rarely openly discussed with an aftermarket supplier.  Like camshaft profiling, I understand that most of that testing is done in the racing communities.  And.... for the average DIYer, the data most likely won't mean much.  Example, assume that 22RE Performance sells a ported 22 head and engbldr sells a ported 22 head, and assume each has been ported based on their flow testing.... which one flows better?... and how do you know?  Were they flow tested at 10" of H2O or 28"?  What does that mean? What was the increase in cfm from stock? What does that mean?

You'll enjoy the Toyota FSM.  If I had a dime for every time I cracked open mine since I bought it in 1986 I could take a nice 2 week vacation to Cabo.

Compared to Detroit, perhaps the Japanese are more secret about they automotive engineering prowess.

Gnarls.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2017, 04:15:45 AM by Gnarly4X »
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