Author Topic: turbo propane?  (Read 13501 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

81 toyota

  • Offline Rock Master
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: -2
  • Male Posts: 241
  • Member since Oct '11
  • 81 toyota detroit front spool rear 35x14.5 boggers
    • View Profile
turbo propane?
« on: Dec 12, 2015, 09:55:03 PM »
Turbo propane?
I'm currently running a 22r with got propane kit would I have to get a whole new set up if I went turbo?

nwflyoda

  • Offline Rock Master
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 36
  • Male Posts: 271
  • Member since Jun '15
  • Mall Crawler
    • View Profile
Re: turbo propane?
« Reply #1 on: Dec 13, 2015, 06:38:01 AM »
You can run the propane setup that you have.  Although, I'd send the mixer back to Cary so that he can tweak it for you to support the turbo.  When i first switched to propane, i knew i was going to be running a turbo down the road so i had him tweak mine ahead of time.  I'm sure you know from when you ordered your kit from him, but he is awesome  to deal with.
84 Yota Pebble Pounder

81 toyota [OP]

  • Offline Rock Master
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: -2
  • Male Posts: 241
  • Member since Oct '11
  • 81 toyota detroit front spool rear 35x14.5 boggers
    • View Profile
Re: turbo propane?
« Reply #2 on: Dec 13, 2015, 06:27:19 PM »
I had got my kit used but everything I heard about Him is good things.
Thanks!

redneckcustoms13

  • Offline The 2.5K Group
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 7674
  • Male Posts: 2,513
  • Member since May '15
    • View Profile
    • Buy me a beer
Re: turbo propane?
« Reply #3 on: Dec 14, 2015, 05:32:37 AM »
As dan stated above he's a good guy to deal with. When lew was building his fd up toy or whatever you call it with the hx35 on a 350 and propane Cary personally met us at settc one year and help tune it. He's a jam up guy!
83 long bed 2wd sas, 3rz, w56, duals with 4.7 rear, 4.88 elock front, spartan rear, 39.5 iroks
01 double cab hunting truck
06 tacoma street truck

Cheesemaker

  • Offline Gold Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 1363
  • Male Posts: 4,525
  • Member since Sep '04
  • Dean Tyler, you were an inspiration to all!!
    • View Profile
Re: turbo propane?
« Reply #4 on: Dec 14, 2015, 06:57:34 AM »
Propane LOVES boost.  A friend of mine has a killer setup on his 22R.  And it screams. 
Miss ya Dean (4THEWKN) & Kyle (KYOTA)!!

4THEWKN~9/17/2006  If it wasn't for you, I'd be driving something other than a Toyota!

My build up ~ project Kilchis! http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=32961.0
Zak's truck build ~ http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=64319.0;topicseen

megaphoneman

  • Offline 4WD Legend
  • *****
  • Turtle Points: 677
  • Posts: 884
  • Member since Nov '04
  • Crawling with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: turbo propane?
« Reply #5 on: Dec 14, 2015, 12:44:02 PM »
i really want to do this.. im currently in research mode and looking for a manifold.. 


Blaaaahhhhhhhh

megaphoneman

  • Offline 4WD Legend
  • *****
  • Turtle Points: 677
  • Posts: 884
  • Member since Nov '04
  • Crawling with Marlin
    • View Profile

Dwill817

  • Offline Rock Master
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 395
  • Posts: 164
  • Member since Jan '14
  • Crawling with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: turbo propane?
« Reply #7 on: Dec 24, 2015, 10:22:37 AM »
http://www.sdsefi.com/techheader.htm

Awesome! Thank you for that link! I can fab that up easy enough and just TIG it all up.

Still in research mode now.

megaphoneman

  • Offline 4WD Legend
  • *****
  • Turtle Points: 677
  • Posts: 884
  • Member since Nov '04
  • Crawling with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: turbo propane?
« Reply #8 on: Mar 28, 2016, 03:20:43 PM »

excited to try this manifold setup!


Blaaaahhhhhhhh

megaphoneman

  • Offline 4WD Legend
  • *****
  • Turtle Points: 677
  • Posts: 884
  • Member since Nov '04
  • Crawling with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: turbo propane?
« Reply #9 on: Apr 03, 2016, 08:00:11 PM »


hmmm odd looking peice of machinery 


Blaaaahhhhhhhh

redneckcustoms13

  • Offline The 2.5K Group
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 7674
  • Male Posts: 2,513
  • Member since May '15
    • View Profile
    • Buy me a beer
Re: turbo propane?
« Reply #10 on: Apr 04, 2016, 10:03:42 AM »
Are you planning on using it blow through? I had better experience wirh using it draw through. Helps keep the tiny turbo cool as well.
83 long bed 2wd sas, 3rz, w56, duals with 4.7 rear, 4.88 elock front, spartan rear, 39.5 iroks
01 double cab hunting truck
06 tacoma street truck

megaphoneman

  • Offline 4WD Legend
  • *****
  • Turtle Points: 677
  • Posts: 884
  • Member since Nov '04
  • Crawling with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: turbo propane?
« Reply #11 on: Apr 04, 2016, 12:44:20 PM »
I will be doing draw through...its like a built in intercooler lol..
yeah everything i have read, is its hard to get vacume set right with a blow through setup on propane because the mixer, works off of vacume, and the boost will through that off..

nwflyoda

  • Offline Rock Master
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 36
  • Male Posts: 271
  • Member since Jun '15
  • Mall Crawler
    • View Profile
Re: turbo propane?
« Reply #12 on: Apr 05, 2016, 05:03:27 AM »
Also, you don't want to run an intercooler...if it back fires with go BOOOOOOOOOM!!!!
84 Yota Pebble Pounder

redneckcustoms13

  • Offline The 2.5K Group
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 7674
  • Male Posts: 2,513
  • Member since May '15
    • View Profile
    • Buy me a beer
Re: turbo propane?
« Reply #13 on: Apr 05, 2016, 05:27:44 AM »
Like you and Dan just said. The draw through acts like a cooler to keep the charge air (and fuel in this case) cool. Put that in an intercooler and shes gonna take the hood off when it back fires lol
83 long bed 2wd sas, 3rz, w56, duals with 4.7 rear, 4.88 elock front, spartan rear, 39.5 iroks
01 double cab hunting truck
06 tacoma street truck

megaphoneman

  • Offline 4WD Legend
  • *****
  • Turtle Points: 677
  • Posts: 884
  • Member since Nov '04
  • Crawling with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: turbo propane?
« Reply #14 on: Jun 20, 2016, 11:59:55 AM »
any input on good location for oil return line in the oil pan? top bottom front back?

redneckcustoms13

  • Offline The 2.5K Group
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 7674
  • Male Posts: 2,513
  • Member since May '15
    • View Profile
    • Buy me a beer
Re: turbo propane?
« Reply #15 on: Jun 20, 2016, 01:18:25 PM »
I'd shoot for where ever a stock rte pan dumped. But I wouldn't think it would matter too much. I know on a 5.9 cummins it dumps to the block just above the front of the oil pan. Same engine in different applications have the sump in front rather than rear or what have you. I'd think you would be fine anywhere.
83 long bed 2wd sas, 3rz, w56, duals with 4.7 rear, 4.88 elock front, spartan rear, 39.5 iroks
01 double cab hunting truck
06 tacoma street truck

nwflyoda

  • Offline Rock Master
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 36
  • Male Posts: 271
  • Member since Jun '15
  • Mall Crawler
    • View Profile
Re: turbo propane?
« Reply #16 on: Jun 20, 2016, 02:21:14 PM »
any input on good location for oil return line in the oil pan? top bottom front back?

you can go a couple different routes.  if you have the later model block and you want to machine it to match the factory configuration, you'd need to drill and tap the port on the driver side of the block close to the bell housing for the oil feed.  as far as the oil return goes, there is a flat part of the block near the oil pan that would need to be drilled and a fitting made to drain the oil back into the pan.

Or you can go another route, on the passenger side of the block, you can use one of the oil pressure sender ports to supply the oil to the turbo and then you can make a fitting to attach to the side of the oil pan to allow the oil to return back to the pan.

when i first put my motor in the truck, i went the second route.  Only because the machine shop was too much of a sissy to drill and tap the block for the oil supply.  but i did still return the oil to the pain with a fitting.  But when i get finished with my build, the oil return will be going directly into the block like it did from the factory.

I hope that helps or makes sense to you.
84 Yota Pebble Pounder

megaphoneman

  • Offline 4WD Legend
  • *****
  • Turtle Points: 677
  • Posts: 884
  • Member since Nov '04
  • Crawling with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: turbo propane?
« Reply #17 on: Jun 20, 2016, 02:33:21 PM »
you can go a couple different routes.  if you have the later model block and you want to machine it to match the factory configuration, you'd need to drill and tap the port on the driver side of the block close to the bell housing for the oil feed.  as far as the oil return goes, there is a flat part of the block near the oil pan that would need to be drilled and a fitting made to drain the oil back into the pan.

Or you can go another route, on the passenger side of the block, you can use one of the oil pressure sender ports to supply the oil to the turbo and then you can make a fitting to attach to the side of the oil pan to allow the oil to return back to the pan.

when i first put my motor in the truck, i went the second route.  Only because the machine shop was too much of a sissy to drill and tap the block for the oil supply.  but i did still return the oil to the pain with a fitting.  But when i get finished with my build, the oil return will be going directly into the block like it did from the factory.

I hope that helps or makes sense to you.

Thanks, i have the fitting behind the passenger side motormount that i was going to use. already have the fitting from LCE...never thought of drilling the block...i just dont want any back pressure on the return line, from extreme angles while wheeling..

nwflyoda

  • Offline Rock Master
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 36
  • Male Posts: 271
  • Member since Jun '15
  • Mall Crawler
    • View Profile
Re: turbo propane?
« Reply #18 on: Jun 20, 2016, 03:25:23 PM »
I know what you mean.  I haven't had any issues yet when the oil return was going directly to the oil pan.  Thats one of the reasons i'm putting it into the block like the factory has it.
84 Yota Pebble Pounder

megaphoneman

  • Offline 4WD Legend
  • *****
  • Turtle Points: 677
  • Posts: 884
  • Member since Nov '04
  • Crawling with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: turbo propane?
« Reply #19 on: Jun 20, 2016, 03:31:42 PM »
I know what you mean.  I haven't had any issues yet when the oil return was going directly to the oil pan.  Thats one of the reasons i'm putting it into the block like the factory has it.

Yeah i was going to check the depth of oil when full in the pan and go from there..

megaphoneman

  • Offline 4WD Legend
  • *****
  • Turtle Points: 677
  • Posts: 884
  • Member since Nov '04
  • Crawling with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: turbo propane?
« Reply #20 on: Sep 10, 2016, 10:04:39 AM »

OTO Phil

  • Offline Crawler Guru
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 1018
  • Male Posts: 682
  • Member since Jan '16
  • Owner of Offroad Toy Outfitters
    • View Profile
    • Offroad Toy Outfitters
    • Buy me a soda
Re: turbo propane?
« Reply #21 on: Sep 11, 2016, 05:33:16 AM »
Looks beautiful! I saw that other video with the hood up... looks good
Offroad Toy Outfitters - The best place to find an experienced-based Toyota shop in the PNW and get hands-on with your next project!
2008 4runner V6: Manual transfer case swapped, 4.88s, rear ARB, custom fabricated bumpers, sliders and more!

1993 Standard cab chassis. 1989 Extended Cab. 22R-E BO .020, ENGNBLDR 261c cam, Doug Thorley Tri-Y header, Straight Pipe through a Flowmaster 40, ARB Rear Locker, York OBA with fabricated bracket.
Projects waiting in my shop: '83 Front Axle, TG Sliders, second tcase, XD 4.70 gears!

 
 
 
 
 

Related Topics

16 Replies
8667 Views
Last post Apr 07, 2006, 08:10:31 AM
by AzBearFan
7 Replies
3635 Views
Last post Sep 12, 2011, 08:46:00 PM
by floorrunner
1 Replies
2976 Views
Last post Oct 21, 2010, 12:16:34 PM
by Phazertwo
0 Replies
1159 Views
Last post Jan 09, 2013, 09:58:42 AM
by fanto57
6 Replies
4191 Views
Last post Feb 12, 2013, 05:57:17 PM
by fanto57