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Alright ya'll,

After my 1979 build I have learned a lot and am ready to go balls to the wall and build a rig to keep and last. Ill get you guys up to date at where I am at right now.

Sold the 1979 for $2000 ( 22re swap, 63s, 44044 fronts, ifs rear axle, 85 front, w56, blah blah blah) Had some issues and I had a baby so off she went. This is "Jack" the day I sold him.





Then I bought my 1986 Toyota 2wd 22rte Turbo truck! I stole it at a wopping $1500. So clean.







My mother's SAS 4runner. Shes had this rig for 15+ years


Then I sold that for $2800 to someone from the Bay. So that money bought me a mommy car for the Baby to ride in.

Now for the current rig I just bought. I told my Fiance' that I wouldnt buy another Toyota again until I can get one the whole family can fit in. So she figured a year or so. Yeah that lasted all of like 3 months. Haha.

I found this Gen at the Machine Shop my Father works at. Goulds Pro Cyclinder in Placerville, Ca. I seen this sitting in the far corner COVERED in :pokinit:, pine needles, and God knows what. So $500 later I own it.

1989 Toyota 4runner 22re ( No motor or Trans )

 













Wait whaaaa. Yeah, Full width  :beerchug:




3/4 Ton dana 44 8 lug 4.10 gears. Open.










Sorry about the shitty ass pictures. Ill grab better ones tomorrow when I get my Canon out there.









Chevy 63's




Hoops




Only pictures I have at the moment.

I just traded my other parts truck for a 1993 22re perfect running order and w56 without Tcase. Also have a Sterling 10.25 with 4.10 limited slip for the rear I just need to relocate the perches and put it up in there.

Plans for the Truck.

1. - Go through the 22re and trans to make sure its all good.
2. - Install Motor and Trans.
3. - Get Rims ( 8x6.5  16.5x10 )
4. - Military Tire ( For Daily Driver/Mild Wheelin Tires )
5. - Groove the :pokinit: out of said Military Tires
6. - 14in Shocks front
7. - 12in Shocks rear
8. - New brake lines and Master Cyl
9. - Clutch Slave
10. - New Brakes in the Dana 44
11. - Clean Front frame and POR15 whole section
12. - Bed liner Engine Bay
13. - Relocate ECU
14. - Original 4runner Roll Bar
15. - Install Drivelines
16. - New Fluids Front and Rear axle
17. - Fix rear Tail Gate ( Window doesnt work )
18. - New Battery
19. - Head Lights
20. - Front Bumper ( Stock for now unless I find something built for cheap )
21. - Install and Set up IFS steering Box
22. - Ghetto Steering ( Make a Drag Link from my steering box to the stock tie rod )
23. - Get rid of the gross Hacked up Fenders ( Paint Also )
24. - Manual Locking Hubs for the Dana 44
25. - Weld the 2in hold shut someone cut into the frame!
26. - Find Top Shift T case
27. - Get a Cross Member
28. - Need Tail Lights
29. - Build Door Panels
30. - Build rear Side pannels
31. - Strip and Paint the Hood
32. - Remove OverLoad from the Chevy Rears ( Grade 9 Center Bolts )
33. - New rear Shackles & Hardwear ( Currently the bolts are welded on )
34. - SLIDERS before I destroy this body too
35. - Repaint the top ( POR15 or Bed Liner )
36. - Get RuffStuff Spring Perchs for Rear Axle Install
37. - Install my Sterling 10.25 Rear Axle
38. - Weld the rear Carrier
39. - New Clutch
40. - Registration and Smog!
41. - Rear Seats


Ill leave my grocery list at this for now. But HOPEFULLY if I can get her rollin and drive-able ill be at Moonrocks this year memorial day weekend. Lets see how it goes. More updates soon and better pictures. Any incite helps ya'll you know that!
« Last Edit: Jul 04, 2015, 01:15:50 PM by Jason E. »
- 1989 Toyota 4runner ( 22re, Dana 44, Sterling 10.25, 4.10, Family Rig in Progress) http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98687.msg1099361#msg1099361

- 1996 Toyota Land Cruiser (E-locker, Old Man Emu Lift, 33's, and Armor)

- 1996 Ford F250 7.3L powerstroke (Flat Bed, Manual, 2wd on 33,s)

- (SOLD) 1979 Toyota 1st Gen pickup 22re swap(http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=94183.0)

Dippin' , Spittin' , Truck Gittin' , God lovin' son of a Motha Fucka.

When In Doubt, Throttle Out. Because in the End, Its a Yoda Thang     - Brandon Jako

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Thats a big list.  Could work on a budget, just time.  I love first gen four runners.  Not the most important thing on your list, but #17, the rear window... 12v guy makes a kit to fix that.  I messed with my rear window in my 87 for hours, then finally ordered the kit.  Works great. 
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Thats a big list.  Could work on a budget, just time.  I love first gen four runners.  Not the most important thing on your list, but #17, the rear window... 12v guy makes a kit to fix that.  I messed with my rear window in my 87 for hours, then finally ordered the kit.  Works great.

Really? I couldnt imagine it being to much to figure out. I know im getting rid of the toyota switch ( I dont have one anyways ) because they are netorious for going out. I have watched my Best Friend jump his switch with a test light or wire for 3 years now!  :rofl2:

Window motor power, ground, and linkage. What more possibly could It be?

And yeah its a good size list. Thats just off of the top of my head. Im gonna full resto this runner. Its my goal. Then again ill probably end up rollin' it and going full tube body. You never know! I did pick up some NICE aluminum Alcoa Rims today though. 8 lug ( 8x6.5 ) 16.5x10 for $35!!! Ill go run and snag some pictures real quick.

Who is 12v Guy? A member?
- 1989 Toyota 4runner ( 22re, Dana 44, Sterling 10.25, 4.10, Family Rig in Progress) http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98687.msg1099361#msg1099361

- 1996 Toyota Land Cruiser (E-locker, Old Man Emu Lift, 33's, and Armor)

- 1996 Ford F250 7.3L powerstroke (Flat Bed, Manual, 2wd on 33,s)

- (SOLD) 1979 Toyota 1st Gen pickup 22re swap(http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=94183.0)

Dippin' , Spittin' , Truck Gittin' , God lovin' son of a Motha Fucka.

When In Doubt, Throttle Out. Because in the End, Its a Yoda Thang     - Brandon Jako

R.I.P. Brandon Jako! Ill see you on the flip side!

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I found some parts!!

I got the deal of the week with my new rims. There not something Im gonna wheel hard with sense they are aluminum but they make real nice for my street Rim & Tire set up. Alcoa 16.5x10 8x6.5 lug Rims. I got them for $35! :clap: They scrap for more then that! Haha. Really nice too. No damage what so ever. Im happy about this buy.

3. - Get Rims ( 8x6.5  16.5x10 )





Also came across this Cobra Cb Radio in a garage sale. Guy said he tried to get it to work and it never powered on. So i bought it for " Parts " for $7. Took it home and one broken wire fix later I have a working nice CB for the Rig.

 



Also came across a complete 22re and parts for dirt cheap! I traded it for some sub's I had laying around. I didnt get pictures of the motor before it went to the machine shop but its all looks good. Head pressure tested good also. Sooooooo probably a spare/ 22rte build ive been wanting to do for a while. Weather im gonna run it in the runner or a 2wd truck im not sure yet but ehh, couldnt pass up the deal.

Parts







Thats it for now. Hopefully I cant get my truck back home here soon. Im not sure. Only time will tell because space is limited.
- 1989 Toyota 4runner ( 22re, Dana 44, Sterling 10.25, 4.10, Family Rig in Progress) http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98687.msg1099361#msg1099361

- 1996 Toyota Land Cruiser (E-locker, Old Man Emu Lift, 33's, and Armor)

- 1996 Ford F250 7.3L powerstroke (Flat Bed, Manual, 2wd on 33,s)

- (SOLD) 1979 Toyota 1st Gen pickup 22re swap(http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=94183.0)

Dippin' , Spittin' , Truck Gittin' , God lovin' son of a Motha Fucka.

When In Doubt, Throttle Out. Because in the End, Its a Yoda Thang     - Brandon Jako

R.I.P. Brandon Jako! Ill see you on the flip side!

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Mine is done and on ebay
it's not me, it's you

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Mine is done and on ebay

What is done? Im confused on what you are talking about.
- 1989 Toyota 4runner ( 22re, Dana 44, Sterling 10.25, 4.10, Family Rig in Progress) http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98687.msg1099361#msg1099361

- 1996 Toyota Land Cruiser (E-locker, Old Man Emu Lift, 33's, and Armor)

- 1996 Ford F250 7.3L powerstroke (Flat Bed, Manual, 2wd on 33,s)

- (SOLD) 1979 Toyota 1st Gen pickup 22re swap(http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=94183.0)

Dippin' , Spittin' , Truck Gittin' , God lovin' son of a Motha Fucka.

When In Doubt, Throttle Out. Because in the End, Its a Yoda Thang     - Brandon Jako

R.I.P. Brandon Jako! Ill see you on the flip side!

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Just being a wise ass, I am selling my 85 4runner which is already built. Good luck with yours.
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Just being a wise ass, I am selling my 85 4runner which is already built. Good luck with yours.

Isnt it fun being a wise ass? I do it all the time. Yeah I actually seen yours on ebay while looking for parts. Good luck with the sale!  :beerchug:
- 1989 Toyota 4runner ( 22re, Dana 44, Sterling 10.25, 4.10, Family Rig in Progress) http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98687.msg1099361#msg1099361

- 1996 Toyota Land Cruiser (E-locker, Old Man Emu Lift, 33's, and Armor)

- 1996 Ford F250 7.3L powerstroke (Flat Bed, Manual, 2wd on 33,s)

- (SOLD) 1979 Toyota 1st Gen pickup 22re swap(http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=94183.0)

Dippin' , Spittin' , Truck Gittin' , God lovin' son of a Motha Fucka.

When In Doubt, Throttle Out. Because in the End, Its a Yoda Thang     - Brandon Jako

R.I.P. Brandon Jako! Ill see you on the flip side!

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looks like a good start man!

yeah i think alot of us on here have that syndrome where we cant stay away from getting toyotas even though we say we wont.
low n' slow 85 runner SR5 22re,rcvs ,Duals,5.29s,Detroits f&r,40s,RUF,Chevy 63 rears,Armored,Cage

bobbed and beat 91 ex cab,3RZ swapped,dual ultimates, dana 44 sas 5.38/5.29 combo,37s, RUF, 63 rears,ARB front, detroit rear,cage

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=96250.msg1073007;topicseen#msg1073007

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=26920.390

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looks like a good start man!

yeah i think a lot of us on here have that syndrome where we cant stay away from getting toyotas even though we say we wont.

Its crazy Man! Ever sense I actually owned and built my 1979 Ive been that way. Dont get me wrong Ive always loved Toyota's from a young young age. Ive also owned 2 MKII Toyota Celica Supras. 84 and 85. But Trucks are what I love best 2wd or 4x4. Ill be driving down the road and see a beautiful 1972 Oldsmobile 442 ( My favorite Hot Rod ) and be like "BABE, Look! Its a clean First Gen Runner!"  :bowdown:

Its litterally the same as a Drug Addiction. And plus most guys like all the Marlin People and most of my Toyota Friends we are all together for one thing in the end. These Trucks. Different Humans or not, A Toyota guy will ALWAYS have good friends.  :beerchug:
- 1989 Toyota 4runner ( 22re, Dana 44, Sterling 10.25, 4.10, Family Rig in Progress) http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98687.msg1099361#msg1099361

- 1996 Toyota Land Cruiser (E-locker, Old Man Emu Lift, 33's, and Armor)

- 1996 Ford F250 7.3L powerstroke (Flat Bed, Manual, 2wd on 33,s)

- (SOLD) 1979 Toyota 1st Gen pickup 22re swap(http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=94183.0)

Dippin' , Spittin' , Truck Gittin' , God lovin' son of a Motha Fucka.

When In Doubt, Throttle Out. Because in the End, Its a Yoda Thang     - Brandon Jako

R.I.P. Brandon Jako! Ill see you on the flip side!

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Really? I couldnt imagine it being to much to figure out. I know im getting rid of the toyota switch ( I dont have one anyways ) because they are netorious for going out. I have watched my Best Friend jump his switch with a test light or wire for 3 years now!  :rofl2:

Window motor power, ground, and linkage. What more possibly could It be?

And yeah its a good size list. Thats just off of the top of my head. Im gonna full resto this runner. Its my goal. Then again ill probably end up rollin' it and going full tube body. You never know! I did pick up some NICE aluminum Alcoa Rims today though. 8 lug ( 8x6.5 ) 16.5x10 for $35!!! Ill go run and snag some pictures real quick.

Who is 12v Guy? A member?

There are a few safeties that can go out.  The tailgate has to be latched on both sides, there is a ground on the rear key, there are relays in the driver side down panels by the roll cage...  Mine worked for a while with the grounding trick, but finally stopped.  The switch works by grounding it, not be sending power to it, so a normal switch wont really work.  12vguy.com   Its a buisness. 
1987 4Runner.   3RZ.  SAS Duals 5.29 Elocker Rear Detroit front 35s... Hydro assist
2007 Cummins 6.7 DRW g56.  deleted EFI live.
2013 Ninja 1000
SOLD:
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There are a few safeties that can go out.  The tailgate has to be latched on both sides, there is a ground on the rear key, there are relays in the driver side down panels by the roll cage...  Mine worked for a while with the grounding trick, but finally stopped.  The switch works by grounding it, not be sending power to it, so a normal switch wont really work.  12vguy.com   Its a buisness.

Thank for the information I would have never realized thats what that relay was for! Also now that I look at the website I do know of 12voltguy.com. He doesnt have what Im looking for and for a simple window switch im not gonna spend a bunch of money for his to get me the right plug and play set up when I can tinker around and do it myself. Ill keep in mind about those latch's because if I remember right mine is damaged to some extent. Ill figure it out when I get the Rig home and get the window down so I can drop the tail gate. Currently it is 1/4 of the way down. Hopefully truck comes home this month!
- 1989 Toyota 4runner ( 22re, Dana 44, Sterling 10.25, 4.10, Family Rig in Progress) http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98687.msg1099361#msg1099361

- 1996 Toyota Land Cruiser (E-locker, Old Man Emu Lift, 33's, and Armor)

- 1996 Ford F250 7.3L powerstroke (Flat Bed, Manual, 2wd on 33,s)

- (SOLD) 1979 Toyota 1st Gen pickup 22re swap(http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=94183.0)

Dippin' , Spittin' , Truck Gittin' , God lovin' son of a Motha Fucka.

When In Doubt, Throttle Out. Because in the End, Its a Yoda Thang     - Brandon Jako

R.I.P. Brandon Jako! Ill see you on the flip side!

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Looks like a perfect family hauler to me...
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Looks like a perfect family hauler to me...

Also with 3 of us and my Dog we should have more then enough room! My ex GF used to pack so much damn SH** that I started a one bin rule. I have parts, tools, and one empty bin. Thats yours. Anything more then that bin is not aloud haha
« Last Edit: Jan 16, 2019, 09:40:48 PM by Jason E. »
- 1989 Toyota 4runner ( 22re, Dana 44, Sterling 10.25, 4.10, Family Rig in Progress) http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98687.msg1099361#msg1099361

- 1996 Toyota Land Cruiser (E-locker, Old Man Emu Lift, 33's, and Armor)

- 1996 Ford F250 7.3L powerstroke (Flat Bed, Manual, 2wd on 33,s)

- (SOLD) 1979 Toyota 1st Gen pickup 22re swap(http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=94183.0)

Dippin' , Spittin' , Truck Gittin' , God lovin' son of a Motha Fucka.

When In Doubt, Throttle Out. Because in the End, Its a Yoda Thang     - Brandon Jako

R.I.P. Brandon Jako! Ill see you on the flip side!

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Girlfriend ALWAYS overpacking when we go camping.

THIS!  :tantrum:

lol i always have one small bag, and a big bin of mostly  spare parts and the tool box,

then rest of the truck is full of god knows what but always seems like there is never enough room.
low n' slow 85 runner SR5 22re,rcvs ,Duals,5.29s,Detroits f&r,40s,RUF,Chevy 63 rears,Armored,Cage

bobbed and beat 91 ex cab,3RZ swapped,dual ultimates, dana 44 sas 5.38/5.29 combo,37s, RUF, 63 rears,ARB front, detroit rear,cage

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=96250.msg1073007;topicseen#msg1073007

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=26920.390

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Good show!! Just remember though, a girl that actually  LIKES camping is great in itself. :yesnod:

But the bin idea is spot on. Haha
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Add rear leaves...
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Add rear leaves...

What do you mean?

THIS!  :tantrum:

lol i always have one small bag, and a big bin of mostly  spare parts and the tool box,

then rest of the truck is full of god knows what but always seems like there is never enough room.


Spare Parts and Truck tools Never leave my truck, Always seem to brake down when Im not wheeling so it became a force of habit!


Good show!! Just remember though, a girl that actually  LIKES camping is great in itself. :yesnod:

But the bin idea is spot on. Haha

I got that Idea from a friend then I decided to make the rule. It works. And Yes, having the support and passion from your significant other is such a blessing. Plus, no nagging when Im in the garage or for buying parts because I stay out of her purchasing habits so she stays out of mine! Its a good thing! Im just hoping my daughter will love it just as much as I do. But honestly? Whether im out wheelin or not what kid doesnt like camping? 
« Last Edit: Jan 16, 2019, 09:42:10 PM by Jason E. »
- 1989 Toyota 4runner ( 22re, Dana 44, Sterling 10.25, 4.10, Family Rig in Progress) http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98687.msg1099361#msg1099361

- 1996 Toyota Land Cruiser (E-locker, Old Man Emu Lift, 33's, and Armor)

- 1996 Ford F250 7.3L powerstroke (Flat Bed, Manual, 2wd on 33,s)

- (SOLD) 1979 Toyota 1st Gen pickup 22re swap(http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=94183.0)

Dippin' , Spittin' , Truck Gittin' , God lovin' son of a Motha Fucka.

When In Doubt, Throttle Out. Because in the End, Its a Yoda Thang     - Brandon Jako

R.I.P. Brandon Jako! Ill see you on the flip side!

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What do you mean?


Spare Parts and Truck tools Never leave my truck, Always seem to brake down when Im not wheeling so it became a force of habit!


I got that Idea from a friend then I decided to make the rule. It works. And Yes, having the support and passion from your significant other is such a blessing. Plus, no nagging when Im in the garage or for buying parts because I stay out of her purchasing habits so she stays out of mine! Its a good thing! Im just hoping my daughter will love it just as much as we do. But honestly? Whether im out wheelin or not what kid doesnt like camping?
Looks like you know what you got. ;) 

I agree, I grew up camping backpacking hiking. The good stuff. And I don't think I'll ever be 'unhooked' from the camping. It's a good feeling ... I'm sure kid will love it too.
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Well see, with her only being 3 months and our first child we are way too overprotective!  :headshake:
- 1989 Toyota 4runner ( 22re, Dana 44, Sterling 10.25, 4.10, Family Rig in Progress) http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98687.msg1099361#msg1099361

- 1996 Toyota Land Cruiser (E-locker, Old Man Emu Lift, 33's, and Armor)

- 1996 Ford F250 7.3L powerstroke (Flat Bed, Manual, 2wd on 33,s)

- (SOLD) 1979 Toyota 1st Gen pickup 22re swap(http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=94183.0)

Dippin' , Spittin' , Truck Gittin' , God lovin' son of a Motha Fucka.

When In Doubt, Throttle Out. Because in the End, Its a Yoda Thang     - Brandon Jako

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Well see, with her only being 3 months and our first child we are way too overprotective!  :headshake:
Good for you bro. It good to see someone you takes their parenting  responsibly . 
Toyota + rv camper; you'll never need another car, you'll never need another home. = perfect

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I mean if you tend to carry too much stuff camping you can add more spring rate to the back.  We use ours for the same thing and tend to carry a huge load, probably like 700-800lbs on a trip with the kids and coolers. When I ran a pickup we used like 4 leaves. I ended up with like 8-9 leaves on my 63" chevy rears for the 4runner.  It looks like a 1 ton leaf pack! Oddly enough they still ride nice and flex well even unloaded. I guess that's the long springs for you.

If it handles like a pig don't be afraid of more leaves...
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I mean if you tend to carry too much stuff camping you can add more spring rate to the back.  We use ours for the same thing and tend to carry a huge load, probably like 700-800lbs on a trip with the kids and coolers. When I ran a pickup we used like 4 leaves. I ended up with like 8-9 leaves on my 63" chevy rears for the 4runner.  It looks like a 1 ton leaf pack! Oddly enough they still ride nice and flex well even unloaded. I guess that's the long springs for you.

If it handles like a pig don't be afraid of more leaves...

My 63's on my First Gen I made into a 3 pack and with shocks it was very stable with about 200-300 pounds in the rear and Flexed Amazing. It was outrageous the amount of travel I had. Adding leafs is going to slowly mess with that though? Im almost thinking of building a caged trailer. Maybe just a big ball of tube with wheels all over it haha!  :yesnod:
- 1989 Toyota 4runner ( 22re, Dana 44, Sterling 10.25, 4.10, Family Rig in Progress) http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98687.msg1099361#msg1099361

- 1996 Toyota Land Cruiser (E-locker, Old Man Emu Lift, 33's, and Armor)

- 1996 Ford F250 7.3L powerstroke (Flat Bed, Manual, 2wd on 33,s)

- (SOLD) 1979 Toyota 1st Gen pickup 22re swap(http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=94183.0)

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Good for you bro. It good to see someone you takes their parenting  responsibly .

Thank you! As much as I go full speed at my truck, we have other expenses to handle with the baby. So aside from that the 4runner is my free time!
- 1989 Toyota 4runner ( 22re, Dana 44, Sterling 10.25, 4.10, Family Rig in Progress) http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98687.msg1099361#msg1099361

- 1996 Toyota Land Cruiser (E-locker, Old Man Emu Lift, 33's, and Armor)

- 1996 Ford F250 7.3L powerstroke (Flat Bed, Manual, 2wd on 33,s)

- (SOLD) 1979 Toyota 1st Gen pickup 22re swap(http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=94183.0)

Dippin' , Spittin' , Truck Gittin' , God lovin' son of a Motha Fucka.

When In Doubt, Throttle Out. Because in the End, Its a Yoda Thang     - Brandon Jako

R.I.P. Brandon Jako! Ill see you on the flip side!

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All I know is what it took for me.  I ran a '94 pickup with typical tool load no problem with 4 leaves and it was great.  When I put on the 4runner body it was completely inadequate. I added a couple leaves and it was still terrible.  Sagged and swayed, handled like a pig on the road with the top on and even worse with the camping gear.  I just kept adding thin leaves until it felt right.  I ended up with 8 drivers side and 9 passenger.  It still rides great and flexes well and now it handles good too.  You just have to tune until it's right.  I'm sure results vary so you'll have to just see what works for you. Different springs, bumpers, winches, how much the wife packs on a camping trip... how much beer you expect to carry, spare parts, all these things come into play  :gap:.  I guess I'm just encouraging you not to be afraid to mix and match with leaf springs if you need to.  Mine still rides nice even with those huge leaf packs. You might not need that many.

I like to build for the load I expect to haul when wheeling/road tripping.
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Happy birthday by the way!
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"I plan to hit 300k in this truck"  :)bestgen4runner

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All I know is what it took for me.  I ran a '94 pickup with typical tool load no problem with 4 leaves and it was great.  When I put on the 4runner body it was completely inadequate. I added a couple leaves and it was still terrible.  Sagged and swayed, handled like a pig on the road with the top on and even worse with the camping gear.  I just kept adding thin leaves until it felt right.  I ended up with 8 drivers side and 9 passenger.  It still rides great and flexes well and now it handles good too.  You just have to tune until it's right.  I'm sure results vary so you'll have to just see what works for you. Different springs, bumpers, winches, how much the wife packs on a camping trip... how much beer you expect to carry, spare parts, all these things come into play  :gap:.  I guess I'm just encouraging you not to be afraid to mix and match with leaf springs if you need to.  Mine still rides nice even with those huge leaf packs. You might not need that many.

I like to build for the load I expect to haul when wheeling/road tripping.
Similar to me.  The stock 80'  springs  Judy wouldn't cut it once the chinook was on.  So swapped the 77'  springs over also.  Hands great.  Not I just need a stiffer sidewall tire.
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Happy birthday by the way!

X2!

hope u get some parts as gifts to finish this beast!
low n' slow 85 runner SR5 22re,rcvs ,Duals,5.29s,Detroits f&r,40s,RUF,Chevy 63 rears,Armored,Cage

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All I know is what it took for me.  I ran a '94 pickup with typical tool load no problem with 4 leaves and it was great.  When I put on the 4runner body it was completely inadequate. I added a couple leaves and it was still terrible.  Sagged and swayed, handled like a pig on the road with the top on and even worse with the camping gear.  I just kept adding thin leaves until it felt right.  I ended up with 8 drivers side and 9 passenger.  It still rides great and flexes well and now it handles good too.  You just have to tune until it's right.  I'm sure results vary so you'll have to just see what works for you. Different springs, bumpers, winches, how much the wife packs on a camping trip... how much beer you expect to carry, spare parts, all these things come into play  :gap:.  I guess I'm just encouraging you not to be afraid to mix and match with leaf springs if you need to.  Mine still rides nice even with those huge leaf packs. You might not need that many.

I like to build for the load I expect to haul when wheeling/road tripping.

Happy birthday by the way!

X2!

hope u get some parts as gifts to finish this beast!

Thanks for the Birthday wish's Ya'll! I trun 21 so it being 6:15ish in California Im already drunk! Haha. I have this other issue though. I have the worst birthday luck. Something HORRIBLE happens every year ether the day before, the day of, or the day after. And having nothing to bad happen yet im gonna go get plastered and hope I forget any bad :pokinit: that happens!  :beerchug:

Experimenting is the key. Ive never owned a suv or 4runner so the weight is going to be a huge factor in what I do. My current leaf pack is 4 and i have no idea if it came out of a 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton 2wd or 4x4 with ALL make a difference from what I have seen at local junk yards. Please convince me otherwise but I like crawling without shocks in my rear  :hammerhead: Im not going to do this with the weight if the Ass end of my runner but hey, Didnt hurt none on my first gen. But I absolutely hate it when a truck sags in the rear unless its a prerunner. Ill play with it after I test it out but for now I'll stick with what is on there.
- 1989 Toyota 4runner ( 22re, Dana 44, Sterling 10.25, 4.10, Family Rig in Progress) http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98687.msg1099361#msg1099361

- 1996 Toyota Land Cruiser (E-locker, Old Man Emu Lift, 33's, and Armor)

- 1996 Ford F250 7.3L powerstroke (Flat Bed, Manual, 2wd on 33,s)

- (SOLD) 1979 Toyota 1st Gen pickup 22re swap(http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=94183.0)

Dippin' , Spittin' , Truck Gittin' , God lovin' son of a Motha Fucka.

When In Doubt, Throttle Out. Because in the End, Its a Yoda Thang     - Brandon Jako

R.I.P. Brandon Jako! Ill see you on the flip side!

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Happy 21st!!! Be safe and don't puke too much :beerchug:
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